Reason behind the increasing search costs

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January 23rd, 2014
sexysoup

Reason behind the increasing search costs

The only reason I can think of is to prevent players from doing endless searches, in a way to reduce SC's server bandwidth usage.
But why would the cost go up for higher TH levels? In terms of gold per hour, higher THs are not necessarily greater than lower THs. Higher TH level players are already starving as it is. The high search cost just makes things worse.
January 23rd, 2014
alexadam1212

no more agree!
January 23rd, 2014
jigglypuff

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Originally Posted by sexysoup

The only reason I can think of is to prevent players from doing endless searches, in a way to reduce SC's server bandwidth usage.
But why would the cost go up for higher TH levels? In terms of gold per hour, higher THs are not necessarily greater than lower THs. Higher TH level players are already starving as it is. The high search cost just makes things worse.

Higher the th lvl the harder it gets simple!
it's not like they're going to make it easier the higher u get :P
also i love your name! very thoughtful
January 23rd, 2014
bloods96

Classic supercell move punishing progression
January 23rd, 2014
sexysoup

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Originally Posted by jigglypuff

Higher the th lvl the harder it gets simple!
it's not like they're going to make it easier the higher u get :P
also i love your name! very thoughtful

I can understand they want to make it harder to progress at higher levels. But it can be done in so many other ways that make way better sense.

Okay here is a guess. SC wants to use the increasing search cost to reduce the income gap between active raiders and players who only log on to tap collectors. Taxing the riches... But it sounds too communism!

As for my name, I've been using this handle since... since I don't even remember. I don't think I ever put much thought into this name. I just stick to it. And thank you for the praise I guess lol.
January 23rd, 2014
kah112

my average searching cost is 50 k. Sometimes i hit the next button like 90 times that's 90k as a th10 :D . Once i ended up wasting over 200k.
January 23rd, 2014
Streamshot004

My biggest waste. Was 100k, earned 100k o.o
January 23rd, 2014
dahimi

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Originally Posted by sexysoup

I can understand they want to make it harder to progress at higher levels. But it can be done in so many other ways that make way better sense.

Okay here is a guess. SC wants to use the increasing search cost to reduce the income gap between active raiders and players who only log on to tap collectors. Taxing the riches... But it sounds too communism!

As for my name, I've been using this handle since... since I don't even remember. I don't think I ever put much thought into this name. I just stick to it. And thank you for the praise I guess lol.

Communism is not a bad word. However taxing the rich usually implies wealth redistribution to the poor. In this case it is just wasted. Wasted resources hurt everyone equally and help no one.
January 23rd, 2014
sexysoup

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Communism is not a bad word. However taxing the rich usually implies wealth redistribution to the poor. In this case it is just wasted. Wasted resources hurt everyone equally and help no one.

Very true.
January 23rd, 2014
Tiny2

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Communism is not a bad word. However taxing the rich usually implies wealth redistribution to the poor. In this case it is just wasted. Wasted resources hurt everyone equally and help no one.

+1
Agreed its wasted - I would prefer the base I skipped receive my search fee.

Congratulations on becoming Legendary!
January 23rd, 2014
carlito

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Communism is not a bad word. However taxing the rich usually implies wealth redistribution to the poor. In this case it is just wasted. Wasted resources hurt everyone equally and help no one.

I've stated this point in a number of ways on a number of threads. SC dont seem interested. They talk about helping us "save" but suck many millions of gold from us on a daily basis with this wasted fee. I probably use more than 1m a day searching...in fact, i definitely do. Give that back to me if you want to help me save. Or give me the next fee from people skipping my base as a reward for being intimidating - bit like monopoly - land on me, tough, unless you want to make me an offer i cant refuse, pay me.

Anyway...They have seen this before and ignore it.

I get more and more frustrated the longer this continues.

I've lost 4 solid players this past couple of weeks in just one of my 3 clans...people are leaving due to general inactivity...its not like people are not playing. They are just spending far too long searching and unable to chat!!!!! Come back to camp, army ready, moan about how rubbish things are, go again...depressing
January 23rd, 2014
billwinkiesbear

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Originally Posted by carlito

I've lost 4 solid players this past couple of weeks in just one of my 3 clans...people are leaving due to general inactivity...its not like people are not playing. They are just spending far too long searching and unable to chat!!!!! Come back to camp, army ready, moan about how rubbish things are, go again...depressing

Been saying this for a very long time.... This isn't new however I believe it is becoming an epidemic within CoC now.

On topic... The Lost loot doesn't bother me.... until I place some context on it

Some simple maths for a TH10...

Ave Attacks / Day : 20
Ave Number of Searches per Battle : 50
Cost per Search : 1000

So based on those very general numbers: It costs 1.4 Mill a Day in Search Costs

Now lets look at some very general Looting stats

Ave Attacks / Day : 20
Ave Gold Looted / Battle : 150k
Total Gold Awarded (excluded League bonus : 3 Mill

So the daily Gold income from looting is approx : 1.6 Mill

Add in the Mines and league Bonus / subtract the loot lost on Def and you have in my opinion a VERY poor System especially when you add in the time invested to make the 20 Raids..

I do not wish to rely on my Mines... I want to play the game....

So Level 12 or an extra one isn't the Answer in my opinion. People ARE tuning out. But at least their abandoned bases will help perpetuate the situation for a while longer.
January 23rd, 2014
Ranger3399

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Originally Posted by billwinkiesbear

Been saying this for a very long time.... This isn't new however I believe it is becoming an epidemic within CoC now.

On topic... The Lost loot doesn't bother me.... until I place some context on it

Some simple maths for a TH10...

Ave Attacks / Day : 20
Ave Number of Searches per Battle : 50
Cost per Search : 1000

So based on those very general numbers: It costs 1.4 Mill a Day in Search Costs

Now lets look at some very general Looting stats

Ave Attacks / Day : 20
Ave Gold Looted / Battle : 150k
Total Gold Awarded (excluded League bonus : 3 Mill

So the daily Gold income from looting is approx : 1.6 Mill

Add in the Mines and league Bonus / subtract the loot lost on Def and you have in my opinion a VERY poor System especially when you add in the time invested to make the 20 Raids..

I do not wish to rely on my Mines... I want to play the game....

So Level 12 or an extra one isn't the Answer in my opinion. People ARE tuning out. But at least their abandoned bases will help perpetuate the situation for a while longer.

I'm going to spin this one around with a very simple yet elegant... WELCOME BACK!:) we missed you
January 23rd, 2014
Supergoji18

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Communism is not a bad word. However taxing the rich usually implies wealth redistribution to the poor. In this case it is just wasted. Wasted resources hurt everyone equally and help no one.

This, and the fact that it seems that the higher level town halls ARE the poor (depending on who you ask though)
January 23rd, 2014
Latpel

To make sure there is loot available for everyone? or to find a decent gold sink? Who knows
January 23rd, 2014
shutzy

i would like supercell to publish some stats on the nexting cost per day throughout the whole community. maybe even by th range too
January 23rd, 2014
MetroBrave

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Originally Posted by kah112

my average searching cost is 50 k. Sometimes i hit the next button like 90 times that's 90k as a th10 :D . Once i ended up wasting over 200k.

Try 800k + and 2 h search.........

cheers,

metrobrave
January 23rd, 2014
JSpong

The fee doean't bother me anymore so much as the actual nexting, itself. While I have grown up with the gaming 'grind', this feels different. I just cannot do more than 50 searches anymore without wanting to throw my ipod at a wall.