Valkryes ai improvement

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Originally Posted by Ajax

So basically you find it hilarious and are "laughing your head off" because they haven't done things which the rest of us know would destroy the game in no time flat.

It is never going to be more defence oriented, and never should be, because that would turn people away from the game in absolute droves.

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Not really. What I'm saying is that an air defence should be == to a dragon so if there is a 1 to 1 fight, there would be a tie between the air defence and the dragon.

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Originally Posted by Mayankkumar

I agree. I don't remember the last time I had watched my defence replays. Also I prefer people 3 starring me if I can 3 star them. If everyone fails, I don't think I will be playing the game anymore.

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I enjoy watching defence win (fending off 3 stars) but it is hard to do that unless their wifi disconnects mid-match.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

L-spells are too easy to use. It doesn't give the defender a chance to protect the air defences. This is the same problem as zapping DE but with no focus from anyone.

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Again, this is a problem in lower town halls. Try using zap attacks involving zapping air defences like zap dragon in higher town halls or even town hall 9, there is no guarantee you will even get a star if you don't study the base and just spam the dragons. Hence, they are very easy to use at town hall 8, like you have mentioned before, but at higher levels, they do require skill.

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Originally Posted by blazeaxel

Again, this is a problem in lower town halls. Try using zap attacks involving zapping air defences like zap dragon in higher town halls or even town hall 9, there is no guarantee you will even get a star if you don't study the base and just spam the dragons. Hence, they are very easy to use at town hall 8, like you have mentioned before, but at higher levels, they do require skill.

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I wish it required skill at th8 too though. I use dragons for farming at th10 and that it should be as challenging at th8 as th10 because they are in the "middle ground" category.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

I wish it required skill at th8 too though. I use dragons for farming at th10 and that it should be as challenging at th8 as th10 because they are in the "middle ground" category.

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Th8 is supposed to by easy Def4. It prepares players for the real clash. Clash of clans wants you to(not said by them, but they don't bring updates frequently to lower town halls)upgrade to th9 or th10, and not perma-max a lower town hall. Like you are for th8, there maybe a person at th3 who likes th3 and often complains about barch being too powerful at that level.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

This is the problem though. Can any th8 make a base that is resistant to hogs and dragons (no because dragons are too spammy). Where did you get the idea that defend I meant one stars? It doesn't say that anywhere. By defend I meant not giving away 3 stars. But if lightning spells just have 10 less damage than they do now at level 5 specifically then there wouldn't a problem.

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Honestly the problem to me has never been lightning, its the higher lvl loons. Being able to use max loons as max grows stronger over time makes th 8 easier. I have a th 8 base that I consider pretty easy for dragons but drag zap has never 3*ed unless the attacker has lvl 7+ cc loons.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

I wish it required skill at th8 too though. I use dragons for farming at th10 and that it should be as challenging at th8 as th10 because they are in the "middle ground" category.

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We've been through this, TH8 is not "in the middle ground territory". Considering it you can get through TH6 in a week and most upgrades at th13 individually take upwards of two weeks, Th8 is so much closer to the beginning of the game than the middle that's it's not even worth discussing.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

Not really. What I'm saying is that an air defence should be == to a dragon so if there is a 1 to 1 fight, the air defence would win by 1 hit remaining.

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The only defences in the game that will beat a heavy attacking troop in a 1:1 fight would be a single inferno tower, and maybe an xbow.

At TH8, you have Pekka available. There is no TH8 ground defence that could beat a pekka 1:1. At TH9+, xbows might if the pekka had to start at the extreme range of the xbow so would have several seconds of being shot at before being able to hit back.

So why should a single air defence be so powerful it can do that to a heavy air troop? It is actually pretty close if the dragon starts out of range. A TH8 Ad takes 10 seconds to kill a max TH8 dragon. The dragon takes 6 seconds to kill the AD, but only has a range of 3 while the AD has a range of 10. So the dragon will have about 3 seconds of being shot at before it comes in range to shoot itself.

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Originally Posted by Def4ultpl4y3r

I wish it required skill at th8 too though. I use dragons for farming at th10 and that it should be as challenging at th8 as th10 because they are in the "middle ground" category.

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TH8 has not been in the "middle ground" category for over 3 years now. Not since TH12 came out.

Even TH10 is only just in that category now, TH9 definitely isn't any more.

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Originally Posted by Ajax

The only defences in the game that will beat a heavy attacking troop in a 1:1 fight would be a single inferno tower, and maybe an xbow.

At TH8, you have Pekka available. There is no TH8 ground defence that could beat a pekka 1:1. At TH9+, xbows might if the pekka had to start at the extreme range of the xbow so would have several seconds of being shot at before being able to hit back.

So why should a single air defence be so powerful it can do that to a heavy air troop? It is actually pretty close if the dragon starts out of range. A TH8 Ad takes 10 seconds to kill a max TH8 dragon. The dragon takes 6 seconds to kill the AD, but only has a range of 3 while the AD has a range of 10. So the dragon will have about 3 seconds of being shot at before it comes in range to shoot itself.

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Most of the time 2 dragons will be on an air defence so the air defence will have no chance.