Why collectors are also a problem ( other than the loot system)

Okay firstly think of it this way. The loot is being circulated ( players attack one another to get loot) so lets just think of it as one base producing its own loot. So if we were to calculate, in one day all the collectors and mines will only be able to produce 432000 of each resource.( not to mention some gold spent on searching and elixir for training troops!!) Say we are at th8 and are trying to get all cannons to lvl 10. So during the upgrade times, we will be able to produce 1728000. So you might say that's enough to upgrade a cannon. But remember, most people are working with at least 2 builders huts( 2 for upgrades and 1 for walls) or even have all three on upgrades. There won't possibly be enough to support so many builders. (and if you're thinking that we have two types of resources and we can use one resource on an upgrade and another resource on another, pls be reminded that from th8 onwards there are very few upgrades that require elixir, with only barracks spell factories and dark elixir stuff to work on*note these can be completed in just a few weeks) so, this will probably only affect th8,9and 10 and possibly 7 to a certain extent and thus there must be an update for either more collectors or higher level collectors soon. Thanks for reading.

Oh btw a to upgrade a cannon to lvl10 it costs 1million and 600k and the upgrade time is 4 days

dont think the collectors are a problem.

it's a game, some gain other loose. just have to win more than loose.

If everybody have collectors to produce their own loot, the game will not be fun at all.

i'm a 1 month th9, and i have always 5 builders working and still manage to update my walls to level 9 (55 currently).

I look at it this way - currently our collectors will not compensate for a devastating loss - as a TH7 maxed mines will make 216,000 with a 12 hr shield, with a 16 hr shield 288,000 - this will at lest over your losses if you choose to ride out the shield



At Th 9 I can loss a grand total of 350,000 from storages. Their is no way my collectors will compensate for that because I have the same production ability as a TH7.


Also its completely fair for people to point out with upgrade costs those higher loot totals being available are unlikely. I believe that is one reason when you raise trophies their so much more DE. More drills and people pushing for hero upgrades (They need to have the DE in there storage)


But I think if our collectors could cover a 100% in a 16 hr period that would help alot. Then people wouldn't be so afraid to hold on to loot. I am looking forward to a 3rd drill at TH10 for example because then my production rate will outpace my potential for losing DE. Its also why DE hunting at TH9 has been much less stressful than Th8 (which couldn't compensate for the common heavy losses if I had a full storage)

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Originally Posted by toze

dont think the collectors are a problem.

it's a game, some gain other loose. just have to win more than
If everybody have collectors to produce their own loot, the game will not be fun at all.
You will get raided, losing loot , so you will always have to raid others to gain back the loot. Im not saying that a base produces its own loot and never be attacked.

i'm a 1 month th9, and i have always 5 builders working and still manage to update my walls to level 9 (55 currently).Good for you really wish I had enough resources

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To make things clear the example given just means that as everyone attacks each other, loot is transferred from account to account and thus the example of 'one base producing its own loot'

Say you get attacked, then you attack someone else, gaining back the loot you just lost.( thus the idea of circulation) The idea is that from th7 onwards, the amount of collectors and mines are the same till th10. The mines and collectors support th7 so that there is just enough, not too much, but not too little. So how can that support higher levels?

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

I look at it this way - currently our collectors will not compensate for a devastating loss - as a TH7 maxed mines will make 216,000 with a 12 hr shield, with a 16 hr shield 288,000 - this will at lest over your losses if you choose to ride out the shield



At Th 9 I can loss a grand total of 350,000 from storages. Their is no way my collectors will compensate for that because I have the same production ability as a TH7.


Also its completely fair for people to point out with upgrade costs those higher loot totals being available are unlikely. I believe that is one reason when you raise trophies their so much more DE. More drills and people pushing for hero upgrades (They need to have the DE in there storage)


But I think if our collectors could cover a 100% in a 16 hr period that would help alot. Then people wouldn't be so afraid to hold on to loot. I am looking forward to a 3rd drill at TH10 for example because then my production rate will outpace my potential for losing DE. Its also why DE hunting at TH9 has been much less stressful than Th8 (which couldn't compensate for the common heavy losses if I had a full storage)

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Totally agree with you

By your logic, we should be able to upgrade defenses at a reasonable pace without having to raid others?

There's no such thing as you raid others and others raid you back for the same. The whole point of raiding and base design is to take more than what others can take from you. Those who raid less and lose more will suffer while those who raid more and lose less triumph.

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

By your logic, we should be able to upgrade defenses at a reasonable pace without having to raid others?

There's no such thing as you raid others and others raid you back for the same. The whole point of raiding and base design is to take more than what others can take from you. Those who raid less and lose more will suffer while those who raid more and lose less triumph.

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Hmm point taken. But just thinking, over a really long period of time, the loot will decrease drastically and that is the problem that need to be solved. Still, very good point thanks

I agree with what everyone else is saying. if you could just sit back and let your collectors do the work this game wouldn't be fun. Also, loot bonuses add loot into the system (mostly at higher lvls). People also buy gold or elixir with gems. Also there are lots of inactives who we can raid for loot that arent spending their collectors. At least there were until supercell decided there was "too much" loot.

Sandalhat, your response got me thinking... Since the resources in collectors go into the storages, if you have a base that has its storages easily accessible, the resources will be lost anyway( if you are saving for higher level upgrades) but still i appreciate your comment

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Originally Posted by Jsf

I agree with what everyone else is saying. if you could just sit back and let your collectors do the work this game wouldn't be fun. Also, loot bonuses add loot into the system (mostly at higher lvls). People also buy gold or elixir with gems. Also there are lots of inactives who we can raid for loot that arent spending their collectors. At least there were until supercell decided there was "too much" loot.

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Im going to sit back, let my collectors do the work and let myself be raided and lose resources when im just 100 k from being able upgrade :)
Just kidding but yeah maybe we should have a chance of them (abandoned bases) appearing ( idk you decide the chance of them appearing)do ppl buy resources? I thought mostly ppl buy builder huts...