Defending against Lightning spells on DE storage

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Originally Posted by bsmittyau

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The spell having a 0% chance of any type of defense or failure is what clearly sets it apart from the raiding troops example you gave. There's no risk/reward, just reward.

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I mostly agree with you, but I shall play devil's advocate. What lightning does is take up a slot in the spell queue. With lightning you are pretty much guaranteed to destroy one (maybe two) buildings. However, if you do so, you cannot use one of the other spells. Those other spells (I think we would all agree) take more "skill" to use, and can result in either a far more useful outcome than a mere lightning spell, or can end up being wasted. So, the lightning spell would be playing it safe. Low risk, low reward lightning vs a rage or healing spell being high risk, high reward. This is considering the attack wholisticly of course, if you are only after dark elixir, then lightning is the only thing you need.

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Originally Posted by Mendax

I mostly agree with you, but I shall play devil's advocate. What lightning does is take up a slot in the spell queue. With lightning you are pretty much guaranteed to destroy one (maybe two) buildings. However, if you do so, you cannot use one of the other spells. Those other spells (I think we would all agree) take more "skill" to use, and can result in either a far more useful outcome than a mere lightning spell, or can end up being wasted. So, the lightning spell would be playing it safe. Low risk, low reward lightning vs a rage or healing spell being high risk, high reward. This is considering the attack wholisticly of course, if you are only after dark elixir, then lightning is the only thing you need.

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I see your point as well. I think where the imbalance comes into play on this spell is with it's ability to "farm" resources, dark elixir or otherwise. I completely agree with its function as a way to eliminate defenses or something along those lines.

Easy solution, aside from some type of defense against it... Adjust the spell so that it can deal damage to everything except resources.

Would you agree that this would probably make everyone happy with as little effort on Supercell's part as we could suggest? Lol

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If you are unable to end up on the winning side of something that is so "unfair", then consider your choices.

I know that anything I haven't spent when I log out is fair game. That's one of the main concepts behind the whole game. Resource management. You must manage your resources just like everyone else. There will be losses. Manage them.

They already nerfed the lighting vs. dark elixir by increasing the hit points of the dark elixir and lowering the loot percentage. I think it's enough, and borders on being too much.

You don't win when the noob can't loot you with lightning. You win when the noob spends three lighting spells to take out a dark elixir storage, and you spend three lightnings to take out a mortar and wizard tower instead and end up with 200k gold and elixir, trophies, and the same dark elixir. It's still a noobish tool in noob hands, yet a masterful tool in master hands.

It is what it is. Lightning is fun and shouldn't be nerfed any further.

They didn't lower the loot percentage, and the hit point change made very little difference.

Taking out a mortar on any decent base hardly makes it weak and unable to defend itself. It also hardly takes a master to dump lightning on a defensive structure.

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I do too.

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Im shocked he got involved lol...good for him.

Can we all agree to start calling the spell Shovel instead of Lightning? I figure it needs to accurately reflect what it is...farming tool :P

I understand your side of it Media...I just think it would be better for the game overall if there were some kind of counter in place for a portion of the damage as a compromise... would add another element of strategy to the game while fixing something that somewhat "cheapens" the experience. Do you ever use the spell to take resources or you just really aren't bothered by it when it happens to you? Are your dark elixir needs maxed out?

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Originally Posted by bsmittyau

Easy solution, aside from some type of defense against it... Adjust the spell so that it can deal damage to everything except resources.

:P

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At last a quote from you I actually agree with. It should always be for cracking open a base and not for farming.

Another thought I had rehashing things that have been said, why not have it that lightening can only be released once a minimum of troops are released... Say 50% of your army is down on te ground... Then you are committed to an attack, resource grabbing would be ok then as you are actually raiding and not resource farming as you called.

I think some of the argument is getting mixed

Spells to grab DE
Spells to raid resources
Spells to take out defensive buildings

3 slightly differing arguments. I would use lightening on number 3

Jay

Just lost 1000 DE to spells! Nasty :(