Heroes have no use for Defense!

The Barbarian King and Archer Queen, aren't very useful for Defense. They get lured out of the base, so the attacker wastes about 10-25 Archers or Barbarians to bring down a Hero, and then use all of their other troops. Then after the attack my Heroes have to be cured and it takes so long. So he only possible solution would be for the range to be shorter, as shown in the image!

1. If you think the range is perfect now vote: Red
2. If you think it should be a little shorter vote: Blue
3. If you think it should be much shorter vote: Orange
4. If you think it should be larger vote: Larger
5. If you think it should be even less vote: Less

​This way the Heroes wouldn't be lured out that easily! Those that have maxed or high lvl. heroes it must be difficult for them not being able to use them on defense! But take in mind that the hero does walk around and the range reaches further, so for that it should be very much shorter!

@Big golem, love this idea!

They are fine as they are.

Could you imagine fighting bases if the heroes were almost impossible to lure? Sure our defense would be better but would be a nightmare for attacks.

While they are somewhat easy to lure, they still burn attackers time and a handful of troops. Don't underestimate that value.

I have had a few defenses - particularly at the moment as I have jumped to Crystal II where the attacker has ran out of time. Because they spent a large portion of it luring, isolating and killing my heroes [and CC] first.

Time is an asset, even lured heroes buy you time.

A larger range would make it easier for players who attack a lot. I think most of us on the forums attack way more times than we defend. If a player is worried about the time it take to heal the hero then put him to sleep before you log off.

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IMO BK should have Orange and AQ should have blue.

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Originally Posted by Gamersayshi

let your heros sleep if having them killed bothers you

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No need for false insults! I know i can put them to sleep, i am an experienced clasher! But we do want them to defend our base! Next a lot of High lvl players, do have their Heroes protected by walls, and I'm sure some or a lot would like for the range to be shorter!

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Originally Posted by BigGolem

No need for false insults! I know i can put them to sleep, i am an experienced clasher! But we do want them to defend our base! Next a lot of High lvl players, do have their Heroes protected by walls, and I'm sure some or a lot would like for the range to be shorter!

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Ask yourself this-

Do I want to attack a base with practically unlurable maxed heroes?

nice poll. this matter has been troubling me a lot. heroes are 95% of the time lurable so they will most likely get killed and its not worth if u dont gem and wait for them to heal so you can attack ...
I personally let them sleep while trophy hunt. at least ill have them ready for offence.
If they get a lower range it would be very useful for the result of the defence will be very troubling for the attacker.

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Originally Posted by ThatoneguyIknow

Ask yourself this-

Do I want to attack a base with practically unlurable maxed heroes?

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Yes good point, but with the "blue" range it is not unlurable if you think it through, although a little harder, but not impossible! :p

just set up your base close to an edge and make sure more than one of your defenses reaches the treeline and put your heroes on that side.

on my base i have a maxed AT and Canoon that can reach all the way to the corner of the treeline and my queen is inside the base close to that corner. if she is lured that other defenses will take them out before she even gets outside the walls or the attacker will have to keep spamming to lure her out....that equas wasting time and troops. just an idea not every problem needs to be solved by SC some like this one is just about you desing your base and set up your heroes.

anywhere they try to lure them out they have defenses covering that area if they try from the other side they will get withing defenses range before heroes have a chance to react

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its a good idea but then many people in champions attack strategy owud then get all messed up

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Originally Posted by FrankieWeakSauce

just set up your base close to an edge and make sure more than one of your defenses reaches the treeline and put your heroes on that side.

on my base i have a maxed AT and Canoon that can reach all the way to the corner of the treeline and my queen is inside the base close to that corner. if she is lured that other defenses will take them out before she even gets outside the walls or the attacker will have to keep spamming to lure her out....that equas wasting time and troops. just an idea not every problem needs to be solved by SC some like this one is just about you desing your base and set up your heroes.

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First it is not a problem, i didn't make this so supercell should fix it! And when you found this thread did you see what Sub-forum you were on? Well it Ideas & Feature Request! Thats what this thread/poll is. And its not that easy making a base for that, i have made a few that were hard to lure the Heroes out, but everyone got 80% raid on me, so that was the disadvantage of that kind of base, it destroys the defense for me even more!

Perfect as it is... they waste their troops on your heroes and then maybe can't get 50% or that town hall something.

They don't waste their troops they use 10-15 troops to destroy a Hero! Which i would say is not wasting, because Heroes are very important for Defense also!

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Originally Posted by BigGolem

They don't waste their troops they use 10-15 troops to destroy a Hero! Which i would say is not wasting, because Heroes are very important for Defense also!

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I know the section yo posted on and you voiced your opinion. now im voicing mine... check out the pictures i added of my base and you'll see what im talking about... I spend 2 weeks in master 2 and never had me heroes drawn out and was attacked maybe 5 times that whole 2 weeks. just work with what you got this is why i love strategy games...

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Originally Posted by FrankieWeakSauce

I know the section yo posted on and you voiced your opinion. now im voicing mine... check out the pictures i added of my base and you'll see what im talking about... I spend 2 weeks in master 2 and never had me heroes drawn out and was attacked maybe 5 times that whole 2 weeks. just work with what you got this is why i love strategy games...

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Must have gotten lucky, my Heroes get lured out on an average 8/10 all the time!

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Originally Posted by BigGolem

Must have gotten lucky, my Heroes get lured out on an average 8/10 all the time!

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yeah mine got lured once on my way up in trophies then i changed their location and if you see how those corners are set up u had to spread them out to make sure the AT covered that far I miscalculated the placement of the TH when i started building it... lol but it worked well with spacing them out

really didnt feel like redoing my base just to move everything over a couple of tiles hahaha

lol, yea true!! haha, its just hardtop make a perfect base that fits everything perfectly! :p

I would be happy to reduce the size a little to the blue circle. The downside would be that once attackers are in the base and the hero wakes up, the barbs , in particular, will be hell bent on getting to the hero and really go after inner walls when they may not have done so otherwise. All swings and roundabouts. But I like the idea of a smaller circle.

Yes, good point! Nice way of thinking it thorough didn't think of that myself yet! :p

Get lv 40 heroes and say the same again whether or not they are good for defense lols. Level 15+ BKs are already not easy to kill and will easily force you to spend 20+ worth of troop space to take them down efficiently, and that 20 space makes a hell of a difference in defense if people plan to crush your base!

And also, luring heroes and killing them will take time, for full-out attacks aiming for 3 stars, heroes can save you from being 3-starred should the attacker spend too much time on them as well. And AQ can wreck balloon strategies if they cannot be lured (I had come across some), so overall they are still useful IMO, you just cant expect them to survive because they are just like other defense buildings (which are destroyed just as easily) except with mobility and more durable at high levels.

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Originally Posted by jiong999

Get lv 40 heroes and say the same again whether or not they are good for defense lols. Level 15+ BKs are already not easy to kill and will easily force you to spend 20+ worth of troop space to take them down efficiently, and that 20 space makes a hell of a difference in defense if people plan to rush your base!

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I wish i had lvl 40 heroes, but I'm far from that! Haha, but there are way more players with lvl 40- Heroes then With 40! Yea they are probably very tough at lvl 40