Am I the only one who feels like clash of clans is declining?

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January 15th, 2014
dahimi

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Originally Posted by archerm3

You did not understand a word that was said if you think comparing you making 2m of game coin compares to anyone on kitchen nightmares.

The argument is about whether feedback is valid or not with or without an explanation. The argument was about somebody drawing up a restaurant analogy about consistently repeating customers.

Yes I do think that we are more than a vocal minority. If it was true SC may or may not do something. Your supposition that they would is fundamentally flawed, using the very analogy of the kitchen nightmares situation. Businesses are deluded and think they are smarter than their customers all the time.

You are correct in saying that SC has all the data. Their picture of overall game health may, or may not be, crystal clear. To think that their vision is clear would be to suppose that all businesses know everything about the health of their business, at all times, without customer input. THAT is fundamentally flawed thinking.

With regards to loot it is not and that is the focal point of this particular discussion.
January 15th, 2014
archerm3

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Ah anti intellectualism. That'll win arguments.

Tell me how that was anti intellectualism. You have a problem with comprehension I think.

My post was about the fact that you, the pro update crowd, become verbally abusive when confronted with an opposing viewpoint. You refuse to hear it, attack people's character, and generally bury your head in the sand.
January 15th, 2014
archerm3

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Originally Posted by dahimi

With regards to loot it is not and that is the focal point of this particular discussion.

What is not? Do you even read the posts that you quote?
January 15th, 2014
BigBird

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Originally Posted by nongemer

In my honest opinion, yeah clash is declineing. Out of the 50 people in my friends list on coc only 2 have league shields and I personally have stopped raiding, I only login to collect from collectors (though I still enjoy browsing the forum).

The decline has gone so far I'm not even sure clan wars or daily quest will revieve coc when it does come to a greater slow down.
Supercell better implement these features soon or they may miss the boat...if that boat hasn't already sailed away.

+1000 ! Sooooo true.
January 15th, 2014
rjdofu

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

You've been here long enough to know that post update feedbacks are just a formality, especially when it comes from 1% of the gaming population.

SC's data tells them what they need to know, and if they think it's good, no amount of negative feedback here is gonna make them change their mind. Again, think 1%.

The feedback thread serves as s platform for discussion. Players discuss their experience there, and SC will give their input once in a while to shed some light on why things are the way they are. Not much room for discussion when all we see is "loot suck", right?

Discussion and expression of gaming experience post update, but all we see is whiners thinking that SC owes them 200k bases that can be taken down with barbarians every 20 skips.

Then what's the point of the "discussion" when one side will never change their view? Stop acting like there's no good post and no clear evidence about how people struggling with the new loot system.

But what response from SC side so far that actually help the situation? None.
What suggestion would you give to someone who have been changing trophy range & army composition constantly, yet still find the loot way inferior compared to pre-update? Yeah right, the good ol' "adapt like us or shut the hell up"
January 15th, 2014
Sandalhat

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Originally Posted by archerm3

What is not? Do you even read the posts that you quote?

Allow me to elaborate. With regards to loot, the forum population IS a minority, out of millions of clashers.

I mean there are literally 50 players in 抢劫上帝, 100+ players from Ex family, etc etc who did not complain about the loot. If i go on, i'll be listing down thousands of players who are NOT having problem with loot post update.

So yea, whiners are a minority at this moment.
January 15th, 2014
Jeezz

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

Two words, constructive feedback. That's what SC is looking for. If there are thousand of one liners saying "loot sucks" and nothing else, VS a single well written post on how a person is able to find good loot, i'd think that the loot is fine.

So, there is one liners too saying "i love the update", " loot has never been better", "i find plenty of loot"... But per your logic, these don't count anything eighter then right ?

Thing is, if you take your time and write in detail why you don't like the update.. And see plenty others write good vallid points and constructive feedback.. But don't see any reply at all from supercell, then why bother wasting your time on long thought out posts if they wont even bother with a reply ?

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

Do u have any idea how annoying it is as a restaurant owner to have the same bunch of customers come in day after day, order the same thing on the menu, and then complain it sucks? When asked why, they just say "it's your job to figure it out, i'm going to eat next door". Yet, they come back every single day, saying nothing more than "this food sucks"

well.. One big difference here.. Supercell do NOT as why.. Do they ?

So if your sentence above should fit to this scenario, it should actually be :
Do u have any idea how annoying it is as a restaurant owner to have the same bunch of customers come in day after day, order the same thing on the menu, and then complain it sucks? When restaurant owner hears this, he just disapears and never ask why, so he never finds out if they will reply that "it's your job to figure it out, i'm going to eat next door". Or of they will actually be more detailed about the problem and help him in solving it.

Now that fits a bit better than the example you gave, don't you think ? ;-)
January 15th, 2014
Sandalhat

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Originally Posted by rjdofu

Then what's the point of the "discussion" when one side will never change their view? Stop acting like there's no good post and no clear evidence about how people struggling with the new loot system.

But what response from SC side so far that actually help the situation? None.
What suggestion would you give to someone who have been changing trophy range & army composition constantly, yet still find the loot way inferior compared to pre-update? Yeah right, the good ol' "adapt like us or shut the hell up"

One side who refuses to change their point of view? Yes, because you are soooo ready to accept the fact that loot is fine. :rolleyes:

Well, tell me your army composition and time left till your next builder and i'll suggest to you how to farm better.

Exactly what response do u want from SC, other than agreeing with you?
January 15th, 2014
OJM

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

You've been here long enough to know that post update feedbacks are just a formality, especially when it comes from 1% of the gaming population.

SC's data tells them what they need to know, and if they think it's good, no amount of negative feedback here is gonna make them change their mind. Again, think 1%.

The feedback thread serves as s platform for discussion. Players discuss their experience there, and SC will give their input once in a while to shed some light on why things are the way they are. Not much room for discussion when all we see is "loot suck", right?

Discussion and expression of gaming experience post update, but all we see is whiners thinking that SC owes them 200k bases that can be taken down with barbarians every 20 skips.

Like I said, meaningless.

Every well thought out feedback gets trolled by "you is wrong *screenshot*", regardless of "side" one has taken on any discussion. So why waste time for any kind of feedback, other than this'n'that sucks, when it all gets ignored anyway. Simple like/dislike on different parts of the update would provide far more accurate results. You know, the typical internet survey type of things. That'd also save so much time and effort from everyone involved in the game & forums.
January 15th, 2014
Sandalhat

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Originally Posted by Jeezz

So, there is one liners too saying "i love the update", " loot has never been better", "i find plenty of loot"... But per your logic, these don't count anything eighter then right ?

Thing is, if you take your time and write in detail why you don't like the update.. And see plenty others write good vallid points and constructive feedback.. But don't see any reply at all from supercell, then why bother wasting your time on long thought out posts if they wont even bother with a reply ?

well.. One big difference here.. Supercell do NOT as why.. Do they ?

So if your sentence above should fit to this scenario, it should actually be :
Do u have any idea how annoying it is as a restaurant owner to have the same bunch of customers come in day after day, order the same thing on the menu, and then complain it sucks? When restaurant owner hears this, he just disapears and never ask why, so he never finds out if they will reply that "it's your job to figure it out, i'm going to eat next door". Or of they will actually be more detailed about the problem and help him in solving it.

Now that fits a bit better than the example you gave, don't you think ? ;-)

Yes those who say "thank you SC" and "loot is awesome" also don't add anything worthwhile to the discussion. I agree.

You seem to have mistaken the feedback thread as a Q&A interactive session. Let me explain, it is like those suggestion boxes that you put your suggestions in, the interested party don't contact you personally, nor do they specifically answer every question.

SC interact with players as they see fit, and for you to demand an answer from them is naive.

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