Am I the only one who feels like clash of clans is declining?

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

TH10s don't need advices? My my, how do i even begin? I know! I shall not begin. I'll just let it echo until you realize how dumb that sounds.

The problem is that the new loot system is working for some, and not for others. So, is it wrong for those who figured out how to play around this new update to teach those who have yet to figure out? Or should we just sit here, refusing to change our style of playing, and demand that SC return everything to as it was previously?

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Calling my comments dumb does nothing to further the conversation, so why bother?

The problem with the new loot system is that it's only working for the people who are using tier 1 armies to farm collectors and the occasional storage (which is usually empty anyway). The mere fact that you have something to teach implies that there is essentially only one way to get ahead now, when this game used to accommodate a huge variety of playing styles. What a godawful waste of an awesome game.

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Originally Posted by NateH

Lots of us like sandal hat have adapted to the new loot paradigm.... Maybe I will create a post to help those who are still suffering. I hate to see these forums turned into a mob mentality riot against a loot system that in my opinion was positive for the game. Sure it might need some tweaks, but overall, its a better system. Problem is, I cant tell if the complaints are just coming from a vocal minority or if that high percentage of players are really struggling so bad?

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Please do start a thread on adapting to the new loot system. That would be a positive approach.

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Originally Posted by NateH

Lots of us like sandal hat have adapted to the new loot paradigm.... Maybe I will create a post to help those who are still suffering. I hate to see these forums turned into a mob mentality riot against a loot system that in my opinion was positive for the game. Sure it might need some tweaks, but overall, its a better system. Problem is, I cant tell if the complaints are just coming from a vocal minority or if that high percentage of players are really struggling so bad?

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Maybe just accept that there are different opinions to what supercell is doing to the game, and be happy that you are not as negativly affected by it as others.. Doesn't mean that neighter the positive nor the negative comments are not vallid thoug, i think they both are to the individual players posting them.

For you and sandal, maybe you are in another place in the game or simply like a different playing style, so the update hasn't really affected you much (at leat not in a negative way).

For myself, there was a problem with both the loot and the game becoming repeatively booring even before the update.. Like having to click next 100+ times when pushing for trophies, and like never being able to combine economics with the gameplay that i would like to play (would like to be able to earn enough for my army cost + still be able to upgrade, without having to drop 1000's in trophies to pray on low th. For example)..

So for me, the game was allready bad with clicking next and missing loot before the update and for the last several updates i had been hoping it would finally get fixed and then instead they bring an update that makes it even worse..

Now loot is pretty much bad everywhere... Now clicking next 100+ times is not only when trophy hunting, but when farming aswell.. And now, due to new disco infernos i farm pretty much on low lvl. Th's only, because there is no reason/economy in farming th.10's with inferno now.. So for me, this update was just taking the game from bad to worse, making it much more tiresome and boring to play.. At least before you could hit some sweet loads of 6-900k gold once in a while, making that raid exiting.. Now all is just flattened out with every loot being between 100-300k, nothing exiting about that eigther. (now i actually often find myself logging off again, simply because clicking next sucks, and even finding a 200 k loot really isn't all that exiting when you need 5 of those for just the next piece of wall).

So telling me and others to just addapt.. As in limit our gameplay to farm low lvl. Th's at 1500-1800 cups for 100-200k gold each attack.. That will simply not do, as sure we could maybe farm 8 mill. A day, but for us it would be adapting from mindless boring to even more mindless and boring.. So we can propably adapt to do what you are doing, but don't really want to as this is just not the game for us, if we need to keep it fun and exiting.

So my guess is.. If you wheren't that affected before the update, you propably can or will adapt now and be okay with the update, and that's good for you as you can enjoy the game still..

But for those of us that have been waiting the last many updates for supercell to step up and fix things, make the game more exiting again, etc.. Then this updates was simply a kick in the nutsack, nothing less.

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Annyways, some really vallid complaints and points in this tread.. One can only hope that supercell would bother to read it.

No its not the loot crisis is annoying but I'm sure SC will fix it

keep clashin

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Originally Posted by Clashofclansmaster1

No its not the loot crisis is annoying but I'm sure SC will fix it

keep clashin

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For the last 4-5 updates i was sure that now SC would surely upgrade those long overdue mines.. And look what happened.. Lol

So even if it seems obvious that they will fix it, unfortunatly i'm not as optimistic as you about it actually happening :-/

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Originally Posted by Growler

I struggled through that whilst filtering out the white noise. You really are trying far too hard.

Ignoring the numerous straw man arguments, spelling mistakes, poor grammar and misused words, it seems you value people whinging about repetition in a video game, threats to quit, mentions of cancer, and announcements to the world of upcoming deletion of their app unless their demands are met in the very near future.

Each to their own I guess. I will continue to voice my opinion on those that believe that their particular gripe deserves it's own thread on here, while you can continue to chunter on and defend those that moan for the sake of moaning.

Still you can always try to effect change by stating 'Yep this game has taken a turn for the worse', that's the way to go about changing the world.

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Bravo, your ad hominem attacks against archersm3 have once again proven to be hypocritical since you have multiple grammar mistakes and misused words throughout your post (a much shorter post, mind you). Also, it's ironic how you voiced your unrelated opinion on a thread you disagree with, which in turn brought much more attention to the thread than it would have gotten otherwise. Great way to promote this thread, happy bumping!

Clash of clans declining? Look what I've found yesterday during a raid:

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Though the answer is quite rude, it mirrors lively the current mood of most gamers, who are annoyed at the new loot system.

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Originally Posted by Sandalhat

If you comparing whiners to those who boo n jeer at their team, then i agree with you. Yes they are annoying, and i prefer that they don't exist.

The world would be a much better place if everyone is educated and can debate their point of views eloquently. Until then, those barbarians need to be put in their rightful place, where no one can hear their useless rants.

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Anyone who replies with their own complaints or counter argument is not a heckler, because that was the original purpose of this thread. Growler was actually the first whiner to arrive to this thread since he shifted the topic away from critiquing the game to criticizing the OP and his supporters for sharing their opinion. He never actually voiced his own opinion of why he disagreed with the OP's opinion and has given zero counter arguments except for calling OP a "whinger" (which imo is one of the lamest slang words I've ever heard). Growler is the true heckler and I agree with you, he needs to be put in his rightful place (perhaps a thread about how perfect this game is).

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Originally Posted by tankgirl

Calling my comments dumb does nothing to further the conversation, so why bother?

The problem with the new loot system is that it's only working for the people who are using tier 1 armies to farm collectors and the occasional storage (which is usually empty anyway). The mere fact that you have something to teach implies that there is essentially only one way to get ahead now, when this game used to accommodate a huge variety of playing styles. What a godawful waste of an awesome game.

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Having something to teach means there's only one way to do it? How do you jump into these conclusions?

The game still allows for variety of play styles, my defense log shows attacks using barch, giants, wizards, balloons, basically any troop you can name.

Do not confuse playing with farming. Farming is about getting the most gold in the shortest time, seeing is how it consists of 2 superlatives, yes there is a single, most optimum way to farm, been this way after update, before update, and since day 1.

Posting experience about loot without substantial evidence like play time, army composition, etc serves no purpose. "I can't get good loot, nexted over 500 times!!", then someone will come along and say "nope i got 300k within 10 nexts 7 times in a row now". So where do we go from here?

The thing is, if you actually filter the whines and ignore those that doesn't add weight, you are maybe left with 7 posts. Hardly convincing.

I do believe that these example of whines should be ignored:
1) loot sucks why no clan wars?
2) loot sucks i'm gonna play Sakura Serpents!
3) loot sucks i used to farm 300k per raid now i can't find anything more than 150k!
4) loot sucks i hit next 500 times, SC please fix this!
5) loot sucks please fix!

Whines that don't have explanation should not be taken seriously, no matter how many. Or else SC will have to listen to every FB comments and implement ideas posted there.

Do yourself a favor, read through this thread and quote all the complaints that you think needs to be addressed, and can be addressed based on the post alone.

The game isn't as fun as before, i somehow can't see how the game will survive with another townhall lvl? More defense? Because it isnt enough already? Or more storages? Because the walls cost 4 mil(its easy i know). We need a bigger area for placing all stuff? SC need to think twice..before releasing a update.