SC - you missed a great opportunity - 1 gem boost

Holiday 1 gem boosts are fine and welcome. Before the christmas the barrack boosts were 25 gems for 45 minutes which didnt make it worth it to boost, now that the holidays are over they changed it to 20 gems for 4 hours. Thats a massive change and makes it actually worth it to boost for a lot of people. They give you a finger and you want there hands.

Great post, bear. One worth reading on General for a change ;)

I wrote long ago about monetizing lack and it's been more and more clear for quite many updates now, that it is the way SC has chosen to make money. It's quite different style from "happy customer is a paying customer" ideology, that some other games use.

As the effects of gem boosting is mostly concering farmers, I won't go into the trophy hunting. Trophy pushing farmers still play the game whole different way than "real" cuppers. (Although, the big dogs could play it like that, but what's the fun in waiting for troops?)

Cheap boosts would definitely make big amounts of people spend small amounts of money, no doubt about that. But it would also take away a big portion of resource gemming, that obviously is still a common way to play (looking at bases and profiles of the owners it's possible to estimate such). The new 20/4hr boost is useful only for the more dedicated players, which, according to that article that was circulating here, places more than a third of all players in that group. The amount of casual gamers was relatively low compared to other mobile games as well.

So SC made a clear strategy on who to accomodate and monetize from and the rest will just have to adapt their gaming or spending habits. Will this bite them in the behind? - Time will tell. The old system did allow all kinds of players to play how ever they wanted and the 1 gem boost time did allow many to speed things up a bit and actually play the game, not wait the game. Definitely it was a hoot and a half for many, but as there's no "happiness measurement" in the game, the statistics will rely heavily on raw numbers: money and time spent on the game.

To conclude my post, I doubt a permanent 1gem boost would find it's way to the game. A small fraction (those, who think it'd be good) of a small fraction (forumers) of all players will not get SC to change their ideology. The fanboys are still too many to defend the honor of SC here, so all this will be buried and forgotten. To me, this thread was a nice breeze from the past but it'll pass soon enough.

Peace.

I've played about 2 hours in past 2 days.


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Exactly. I use gems to boost every single time i play during the promotion.

Now that the promotion is over, I don't boost anymore. 4 hours is crazy. I don't play it for so long in a single sitting. It's not a rpg game.

Anyway hope supercell listens. Now that supercell is a successful company, they will definitely suffer from the deaf frog syndrome

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Originally Posted by RaspberryPi

Seems some people are still looking on the surface of the issue.

1 Gem boosts are great, they get even some casual players to spend a few bucks definitely. But it also means 4x resource progress for anyone who uses them. Big spenders are NOT going to be happy with a bunch of people spending small money getting to the top by taking advantage of 4x resource progress.

In the end, if anyone can finish their lavas in three seasons by using the boosts, then who would spend 231340 Gems buying 750m gold, equaling to $1659 USD, when you can easily spend under 3k gems keeping all your barracks boosted and farming for 3 seasons(which isn't that long at all). It would be a totally different game where small spenders become top players and the gap between them and zero-spenders will be so wide, the casual non-gemmer isn't going to find the game fun any more.

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First of, 4x barracks boost does not mean you earn 4 times the resources. Secondly, top trophy play requires a whole lot more than just a maxed base. Thirdly, Champions players would be happy to see some more players in their flock. The trophy system works terrible up top because there is a lack of 3200+ cups players.

Also, you're thinking about this proposed chance from a hardcore farmers point of view. No regular joe will play often enough, even with a cheap boost, to max lava in 6 weeks. You have to take a wide view here.

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Originally Posted by Bakhoumgeorge

So what if it is 4 hours? You still get an advantage, so you shouldn't be complaining about that. Just train a long time army then log off till they are done. I don't get what is the problem here. Also why would they want to keep the 1 gem boost forever? You should be happy that you had it, but obviously it won't stay forever. If they make it forever they will lose money. You should be happy that it's free game and everything you can do is free... They have all the rights to do whatever they want to the game. They are NOT FORCING you to pay. In fact they made it POSSIBLE to max out your base without paying. There is really no need to complain...

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Did you even read the thread? That's not the point. The point being made is that lowering gem pricing of barrack boosting could lead to even more profit by SC because players tend to spend low amounts if the result is more fun. Whereas they will spend nothing with slightly higher amounts.

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Originally Posted by Giggitygoo

First of, 4x barracks boost does not mean you earn 4 times the resources. Secondly, top trophy play requires a whole lot more than just a maxed base. Thirdly, Champions players would be happy to see some more players in their flock. The trophy system works terrible up top because there is a lack of 3200+ cups players.

Also, you're thinking about this proposed chance from a hardcore farmers point of view. No regular joe will play often enough, even with a cheap boost, to max lava in 6 weeks. You have to take a wide view here.

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Literally 95%+ of resources that I gain is through pure raids, so yes 4x barracks speed is at least 3x resources for me.

Also, why do you people keep linking base progress and barracks boost with... trophies?

You do understand that faster troop training at higher trophy leagues(1k+) only means more TRANSFER of trophies? One guy gains, the other guy loses. Also, more advanced bases =/= more people up there. It just means more competition and harder bases up there.

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Originally Posted by RaspberryPi

Trophies =/= base progress/resources/gold. Add as much loot as you want in the game and it will not affect trophies. Trophies gained by you will be the amount of trophies lost by another. Only under 1k trophy ranges will trophies be added into the game. Finding a match in the top leagues will be scarce as always.

However, people who GEM resources and spend big money definitely do NOT want someone else who spends a tiny fraction of that amount to have a similar base. People pay for bragging rights, and if something is THAT easy to get, it's not even worth bragging about.

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^ Read my above post. More trophy transfer =/= More trophies put into the game. Just think of the latest update where SC tries to 'Fix' the loot issue by allowing more TRANSFER of loot. (Increasing available storage raids). Solves nothing and everyone will still be bam/barching collectors.

Yes, not many players can get lavas in 6 weeks with 4x boosts. That means we should let those with more time take advantage of the 1-gem 4x boosts and get ahead of everyone, while those without the time have to pay MULTIPLE folds MORE to gain that amount of resources. Tell that to the big spenders and they'll say goodbye.

Supercell has the metrics, they know how many people are boosting, how much the promotion increased or didnt the amount of people playing and the average amount of time people play.
Now that they have made this change to the cheaper boost, I am sure they are closely monitoring its affect on thoose numbers. Once they have some data they will make changes if needed.

Its silly for us to try and make a case that this boost cost or that boost cost is better. We just dont have the knowledge and data that they have.

All we can do is say how much we liked the one gem boost and that we hope it returns in some form.

The boosts did make our clan really active, plus loot improved aloot.

Sad that it finished.

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Originally Posted by medinas925

i agree that was a once in a lifetime opportunity. The games slow and my clans activity level is very low now

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+1 exactly

Agreed, 100% let's get supercell's attention!