New Siege Machine (The Cross Box)

Now called the XBOW Cart!!!

NOTE: Supercell if considering this idea has the right to change any part of the queue under their own circumstances if necessary or wanted.

This box wheels around with your troops such as an extra mini Queen (Basically a portable XBow that functions like the queen) including holding CC troops. Unable to be healed by healers or protect itself from enemy CC troops the cart would be used behind troops as a weapon or in the frontlines barging to the middle with the King as its partner.
Rolling towards the Town Hall this siege machine stops at nothing, climbing walls but dealing no harm, rolling around buildings, and dealing heavy damage at whatever is closest, just to get to your enemy's town hall, and it is all powered by one of the queens most trusted archers. When the Town Hall reaches its range the XBow Cart immediately aims to destroy it without hesitation.
The XBOW Cart, while carrying your troops, loses life as it does. Acting as a Battle Blimp and stoping at nothing your CC troops must wait though until the box is dead to release their fury.

Components of the Cross Box:
Space: 1 Siege
Speed: 20
Range: 8 diameter (4 radius)

Level 1 (Unlocked at town hall 13)
Damage: 900 per shot
Time in between shots: 2 seconds
Training cost: 85,000 exilir
Hitpoints: 3,600
HP loss speed: 5 seconds
Amount lost each 5 seconds: 100

UPGRADE TIME: Research Lab Stats
Upgrade cost 8,400,000 exilir
Research time: 11 days

Level 2 (Upgradable at town hall 13)
Damage: 1150 per shot
Time in between shots: 2 seconds
Training cost: 105,000 exilir
Hitpoints: 4,100
HP loss speed: 5 seconds
Amount lost each 5 seconds: 150

This ranged tank would be your first ranged siege machine boosting the ability to fight from the back and the ability to fight like a troop while being a siege machine. Working well with both Golems and Ice Golems, and our heroes the Barb King and The Warden, this new siege machine is exactly what COC needs to get the adrenaline running throughout the players bodies.

If it can't hold CC troops, it's not a Siege Machine.

It is, therefore, a new troop idea.

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Originally Posted by Kaledonian

If it can't hold CC troops, it's not a Siege Machine.

It is, therefore, a new troop idea.

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First of all a siege machine's purpose is to destroy.

It is a RANGED siege machine so the purpose of holding troops is almost useless. If you want it to hold troops then I guess Supercell can add that. But it is a destroyer machine which means it is to destroy like your other machines but without holding troops.

Not every siege machine (siege definition does not define containing troops or artillery inside) must contain troops inside. Therefore it is not a new Machine or a new Troop. It is a new Weapon, but it would be useful to categorize it in the siege weapons because it's purpose is to head to the center and it is a mass artillery weapon.

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Originally Posted by Kaledonian

If it can't hold CC troops, it's not a Siege Machine.

It is, therefore, a new troop idea.

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So sir, please before attacking anyone elses ideas, put more than "it cant hold cc troops". No one in Supercell said it had to, and no one else has.

Woah woah woah hold up...

First of all, Kaledonian is right, the siege machines purpose is NOT to destroy, rather it is to deliver troops to the town hall faster. He never attacked your post, neither am I, instead we are simply stating that this idea does not follow the main purpose of a siege machine. We didn't say it was a bad idea, in fact, a new non-multi-target ranged ground troop would be nice, we haven't had one since the ARCHER. However, this idea just doesn't fit with the rest of the siege machines.

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Originally Posted by Bodgey

Woah woah woah hold up...

First of all, Kaledonian is right, the siege machines purpose is NOT to destroy, rather it is to deliver troops to the town hall faster. He never attacked your post, neither am I, instead we are simply stating that this idea does not follow the main purpose of a siege machine. We didn't say it was a bad idea, in fact, a new non-multi-target ranged ground troop would be nice, we haven't had one since the ARCHER. However, this idea just doesn't fit with the rest of the siege machines.

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That is why I added if Supercell feels like placing the addition of troops it would be fine. And a siege machines purpose is to destroy buddy. To destroy the town hall and everything in its path. Basically you have to get it to the Town hall before it runs out of life. So escorting this new machine is your purpose. Because it replaces the CC troops you would have had in a Wall Wrecker or something. Your CC will still be available without placing it in the machine. You can spawn them with the rest of your troops escorting this mass destroyer or infront depending on your front or back forces.

Also as I mentioned it is half the size, and it wheels behind the front line. If you want it to hold CC troops I am fine adding that to my definition. But the reason CC troops can be placed in the others is because they are supposed to ONLY deliver. That is the difference between my weapon and the current siege machines.

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Originally Posted by Kaledonian

If it can't hold CC troops, it's not a Siege Machine.

It is, therefore, a new troop idea.

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I do apologize bro.

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Originally Posted by FalconBubbles

So sir, please before attacking anyone elses ideas, put more than "it cant hold cc troops". No one in Supercell said it had to, and no one else has.

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A bit sensitive are we? Since when has stating a fact been an attack. I offered absolutely no opinion on your idea.

Anyhoo, here's the TH12 release notes:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Gj93PT2SMrwf7F

It won't take you long to find "Siege Machines are mobile Clan Castles".

As to whether it's a "weapon" or "troop" is neither here nor there; it's definitely not a Siege Machine. Cannon Carts in BB are weapons, but are almost universally referred to as troops, by the way.

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Originally Posted by FalconBubbles

I do apologize bro.

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Accepted.

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Originally Posted by Kaledonian

A bit sensitive are we? Since when has stating a fact been an attack. I offered absolutely no opinion on your idea.

Anyhoo, here's the TH12 release notes:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Gj93PT2SMrwf7F

It won't take you long to find "Siege Machines are mobile Clan Castles".

As to whether it's a "weapon" or "troop" is neither here nor there; it's definitely not a Siege Machine. Cannon Carts in BB are weapons, but are almost universally referred to as troops, by the way.

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Yes but it has the life and power of a Demi-Siege machine. So it cannot be a troop it would have to be constructed in the workshop. I will add troops to this. I don't mean to be sensitive. I apologize for that too. But this is the future. And Town Hall 12 was a while ago. Things can still change. And I feel it we put CC troops in this it might defeat the purpose of an escort 🤔 But I have definetely considered your troop thing to also help. I feel that if it contains troops and it heads towards then center it may still stop but if your troops are still escorting then the troops inside the machine would be a booster. I am not sure. First time I made these last night though. So still working out kinks. But I am reconsidering troops to be better.

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Originally Posted by Kaledonian

A bit sensitive are we? Since when has stating a fact been an attack. I offered absolutely no opinion on your idea.

Anyhoo, here's the TH12 release notes:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Gj93PT2SMrwf7F

It won't take you long to find "Siege Machines are mobile Clan Castles".

As to whether it's a "weapon" or "troop" is neither here nor there; it's definitely not a Siege Machine. Cannon Carts in BB are weapons, but are almost universally referred to as troops, by the way.

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So I changed the machine to an actual siege machine definition. It can hold CC troops and it can still attack. I would like to know if more HP or Less Time in between the shots should be changed to accomodate for a faster siege machine.

I kinda like the idea, but I think I'd prefer it as a new troop instead of a siege machine. Maybe something similar to this could be used for the super archer when they make one of those? A mobile tank deal with a ballista (xbow) on top the archer fires? I know that probably eliminates one of the features you really seem to like, with it rolling straight for the th, though.

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Originally Posted by kylorayker

I kinda like the idea, but I think I'd prefer it as a new troop instead of a siege machine. Maybe something similar to this could be used for the super archer when they make one of those? A mobile tank deal with a ballista (xbow) on top the archer fires? I know that probably eliminates one of the features you really seem to like, with it rolling straight for the th, though.

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So you are saying instead of going to the town hall it goes around the base with the ranged troops? I cant fully understand. Describe it to me.

Yeah, I'm suggesting it would just be a ranged troop. It would look more or less the way you described it, but would have an archer firing the mounted xbow. It would travel with the rest of the troops, but have a significantly higher range and hp than the standard archer.

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Originally Posted by kylorayker

Yeah, I'm suggesting it would just be a ranged troop. It would look more or less the way you described it, but would have an archer firing the mounted xbow. It would travel with the rest of the troops, but have a significantly higher range and hp than the standard archer.

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🤔 What if it was a siege machine though. But instead of stopping it shoots at whatever is closes and if something reaches closer in its range it would shoot there. Like a battle blimp but ground style and it actually targets buildings.

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Originally Posted by kylorayker

Yeah, I'm suggesting it would just be a ranged troop. It would look more or less the way you described it, but would have an archer firing the mounted xbow. It would travel with the rest of the troops, but have a significantly higher range and hp than the standard archer.

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What if it released wall breakers with it so it can get through walls?

I think it would function well as a Siege Machine if it had high power but a shorter range, so it would have to get close to deal devastating damage with the downside of being more vulnerable. The upside is that as it's edging closer to the TH (if like the WW or BB) or attacking a favorite target (like the SS), it'll hopefully be slowly working its way into the enemy base. Then, when it is destroyed, the cc troops can deploy within the enemy walls instead of near the edge of the map which might be too late for them to join the main attack force in an effective way (much like I sometimes experience with the Outlying Outhouse).

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Originally Posted by toofinedog

I think it would function well as a Siege Machine if it had high power but a shorter range, so it would have to get close to deal devastating damage with the downside of being more vulnerable. The upside is that as it's edging closer to the TH (if like the WW or BB) or attacking a favorite target (like the SS), it'll hopefully be slowly working its way into the enemy base. Then, when it is destroyed, the cc troops can deploy within the enemy walls instead of near the edge of the map which might be too late for them to join the main attack force in an effective way (much like I sometimes experience with the Outlying Outhouse).

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So I changed it to a siege machine definition and new qualities. Review and see if it matches some of your ideas. 😁

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Originally Posted by FalconBubbles

So I changed it to a siege machine definition and new qualities. Review and see if it matches some of your ideas. 

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Yep, looks good. The only thing I don't like is the HP drain, because it will be taking heavy fire as it plods toward the TH.

HP drain works with the Pekka Palanquin, because the number of deployed wizards depends on the amount of HP left, and if left in a corner, there is nothing keeping the PP in check to prevent it from becoming overwhelming or overpowered.

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Originally Posted by toofinedog

Yep, looks good. The only thing I don't like is the HP drain, because it will be taking heavy fire as it plods toward the TH.

HP drain works with the Pekka Palanquin, because the number of deployed wizards depends on the amount of HP left, and if left in a corner, there is nothing keeping the PP in check to prevent it from becoming overwhelming or overpowered.

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I lowered the HP drain for the siege machines into the 100's instead of 200's so that it would not be too overpowered.

If the Town Hall is towards the center and you use a GOLEM/WITCH/EQ army lets just say, those troops will begin taking the frontline damage and gives you a short shield to destroy front line buildings and you deploy the machine after to clear most of the path towards the town hall. So if you send it halfway through the attack you need a life drain to keep it from overpowering your enemy.

If the Town Hall is to the side of the map nearer to the edge then you would probably use it more as a frontline booster and just taking out the Town Hall so you can send your army in behind it.

The life drain is spaced out every 5 seconds so if it was not getting attacked it would have about 1 minute to 2 minutes of life.

Yes, this is unrelated, but I do want to point out that the title of this post, specifically "Cross Box" sounds like a hilariously bad ripoff of "Xbox."

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Originally Posted by Bodgey

Yes, this is unrelated, but I do want to point out that the title of this post, specifically "Cross Box" sounds like a hilariously bad ripoff of "Xbox."

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Kinda is. I renamed it the XBox Cart for a reason xd