Hero Skins and the Forge

Well, I think the Hero skins were pretty good but they don't actually give any benefit( which they should not..)
So I was thinking about taking it a step further.
A new building Forge.
In this building, we can create artefacts like sword and armour for the king, bow and quiver for the queen, staff and tome for GW and so on... They may or may not have any visual change...
These would give like some advantage to heroes, like 10% damage or health...These artefacts may or may not last forever. Like you could use them for a day or less or more. Also, these may need all three resources.
Furthermore, maybe some premium parts which can be collected from the goblin map or won or bought.
I mean if we start thinking ideas 💡 will just pop on...

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Originally Posted by tila

Well, I think the Hero skins were pretty good but they don't actually give any benefit( which they should not..)
So I was thinking about taking it a step further.
A new building Forge.
In this building, we can create artefacts like sword and armour for the king, bow and quiver for the queen, staff and tome for GW and so on... They may or may not have any visual change...
These would give like some advantage to heroes, like 10% damage or health...These artefacts may or may not last forever. Like you could use them for a day or less or more. Also, these may need all three resources.
Furthermore, maybe some premium parts which can be collected from the goblin map or won or bought.
I mean if we start thinking ideas 💡 will just pop on...

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You basically contradicted yourself. First you said that skins should have no benefit other than being cool (which I agree). But then, you come out to say "make artifacts which can be bought". That is the CLEAR definition of pay to win. Regardless if it makes the heroes health increase by 10% or something else, if you can buy it, you have an advantage over free to play players. That's pay to win. There is a reason why skins don't have any benefits. And whether or not your idea of artifacts is temporary (like a day or two) or permanent, it doesn't matter. If you can buy it, you have an advantage over those that can't or won't pay up for it!

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Originally Posted by BacalaoistPlays

You basically contradicted yourself. First you said that skins should have no benefit other than being cool (which I agree). But then, you come out to say "make artifacts which can be bought". That is the CLEAR definition of pay to win. Regardless if it makes the heroes health increase by 10% or something else, if you can buy it, you have an advantage over free to play players. That's pay to win. There is a reason why skins don't have any benefits. And whether or not your idea of artifacts is temporary (like a day or two) or permanent, it doesn't matter. If you can buy it, you have an advantage over those that can't or won't pay up for it!

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He never said you have to buy it. He said it's a new building, implying that everyone can build it. That is not ptw and would certainly be fair to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix1027

He never said you have to buy it. He said it's a new building, implying that everyone can build it. That is not ptw and would certainly be fair to everyone.

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I think it was this bit he was referring to "Furthermore, maybe some premium parts which can be collected from the goblin map or won or bought.".

But so long as these can be obtained in other ways, it is not much different to the magic items that can be bought or gained in other ways.

Not a fan of this idea. Power potions already are bad enough. Cannot imagine going into war as a max TH fully upgraded and HAVING to use some perk to give me a level playing field so that I get a special weapon or ability to compete. Even if these special things did not take you beyond max, we have enough problems with the MM (despite it being as good as I have ever seen it) to risk adding more items that degrade the MM ability to cope. A big no thanks here.

Just a play on your idea, how bout clan skins! Everyone in the clan would all match on the color the clan leader picks & it would just change the colors on all the flags on Archer tower, cannons, ect...

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Originally Posted by ctb1981

Just a play on your idea, how bout clan skins! Everyone in the clan would all match on the color the clan leader picks & it would just change the colors on all the flags on Archer tower, cannons, ect...

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I'm all for the offence unit's skins, but I'm against skinning defences.. being used to be able to make out the approximate levels of the defences just by looking at them, the new colours, flags etc will confuse me when I'm farming

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Originally Posted by BacalaoistPlays

You basically contradicted yourself. First you said that skins should have no benefit other than being cool (which I agree). But then, you come out to say "make artifacts which can be bought". That is the CLEAR definition of pay to win. Regardless if it makes the heroes health increase by 10% or something else, if you can buy it, you have an advantage over free to play players. That's pay to win. There is a reason why skins don't have any benefits. And whether or not your idea of artifacts is temporary (like a day or two) or permanent, it doesn't matter. If you can buy it, you have an advantage over those that can't or won't pay up for it!

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I meant that they can be bought for elixer aur gold. Also my idea is for a new building so that everyone can build it and can make artifacts which grant some abilities like 5% more damage or just for gold boost etc.

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Originally Posted by Ajax

I think it was this bit he was referring to "Furthermore, maybe some premium parts which can be collected from the goblin map or won or bought.".

But so long as these can be obtained in other ways, it is not much different to the magic items that can be bought or gained in other ways.

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Exactly... But these are not potions... These artifacts could be enabled and they are for heroes... I mean they do not grant temporary boost like potion but instead they enhance heroes ability.
Like a Kings Longsword will increase its damage by 5% but reduce its speed by 2% and so on...
I said they may or may not be temporary....

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Originally Posted by tila

Exactly... But these are not potions... These artifacts could be enabled and they are for heroes... I mean they do not grant temporary boost like potion but instead they enhance heroes ability.
Like a Kings Longsword will increase its damage by 5% but reduce its speed by 2% and so on...
I said they may or may not be temporary....

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Lets assume that this longsword is a really good enhancement and is the most commonly used and is temporary. how long until everyone chooses that enhancement and how long until pretty much every war your opponent brings it to battle because it is the most powerful enhancement? If it is available for sale but only occasionally for free, how long u til those who are f2p cannot keep up because they can only get one longsword a week while those who purchase have an unlimited supply?

potions are only used for a short while, once your troops are maxxed, you dont need them anymore so f2p can actually catch up. An enhancement to your longsword as an example can always be used even when maxed so f2p can never reach the same level as someone who has deep wallets.

For this reason and because the MM cannot manage this type of outlier, this is still a poor idea IMO.

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Originally Posted by tila

These would give like some advantage to heroes, like 10% damage or health...

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So instead of upgrading heroes, I could just forge this thing and beside fooling matchmaking, I would gain power of multiple hero levels. :P

Cool idea, I admire your creativity, OP. I doubt this would be implemented because if you need to burn hero skins, a gold pass exclusive, to get these buffs it’s the same as skins giving buffs directly.