New Revenge mode

The Revenge mode is quite useless. A good way to change that could be adding an another revenge botton to attack like a challenge. The opponent gets the replay with a different colour, knowing it was "revenged". Usefull to do more challenge with other people that aren't your clan mates and to take a little satisfaction doing a 3 star attack versus someone that that destroyed your base(all that without trophies or resources, only to train and take Revenge). The old button could remain, but with this added feature. Obviosly, After doing a "friendly Revenge", the classic revenge button disappear(or become grey and unusable).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gianzu

The Revenge mode is quite useless. A good way to change that could be adding an another revenge botton to attack like a challenge. The opponent gets the replay with a different colour, knowing it was "revenged". Usefull to do more challenge with other people that aren't your clan mates and to take a little satisfaction doing a 3 star attack versus someone that that destroyed your base(all that without trophies or resources, only to train and take Revenge). The old button could remain, but with this added feature. Obviosly, After doing a "friendly Revenge", the classic revenge button disappear(or become grey and unusable).

---

The revenge isn't useless at lower trophy levels. At higher levels it is pretty useless due to the delay that allows other players to attack the base before you can revenge it, so most higher trophy players just learn to ignore it. Now that legends doesn't have revenge, I think SC could remove that delay to make revenge work better higher up too.

This is at least the 3rd post on this topic today why not go add to another one.

Yes you should be able to revenge attack at anytime, otherwise why have it ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 20mark06

Yes you should be able to revenge attack at anytime, otherwise why have it ?

---

Even through shields? Free ones? Purchased ones? You most likely attack far more than you defend. Would you like to be revenged by every single one? Good luck keeping loot.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Crash321

This is at least the 3rd post on this topic today why not go add to another one.

---

I think it might only be the second in the last 24 hours. Hard to tell with thread titles.

I see two problems with revenge: the bases are rarely available to hit due to the no shield/guard and offline requirements and revenge just isn’t worth its value in loot/trophies, since people tend to spend their loot (curse them) and the trophy problem touched on below.

I recently learned while researching a response to another post about trophies that revenge for trophies are calculated the same way as it is in multiplayer - the difference in trophies between the attacker and defender, but as it is explained in supercell helpshift, if the person has significantly risen or dropped trophies, the amount you can get on revenge may be zero. I don’t know the cutoff to make it zero. Rather than calculate revenge trophies in real-time, revenge can take a snapshot of the attacker’s base/trophies and make that what is available on revenge. The snapshot of the trophies would mean the amount of trophies you can gain on revenge could either be the same maximum amount they could have taken from you or be recalculated to be the difference of amounts after the attack; however, after being three starred and losing max trophies, the range might be too large to make revenge NOT worth taking to get them back. The “difficulty” can still be adjusted by adjusting trophy loss on a failed revenge attack. The snapshot of the base can be similar to war/legends where you’re not attacking the actual base but one saved at the time of attack including whatever cc troops they had for their attack (the problem of using different troops for attack/defense can be remedied by having separate attack/defense cc troops similar to war/legends which was also recently proposed in another ideas thread). Similar to war/legends, the base could contain bonus loot that does not deduct from the revengee. This should allow revenge to be taken at any time rather than only when the base is unshielded/unguarded and offline. The amount of loot should scale by league and destruction percentage like the win bonus, but the focus of revenge should be to steal your trophies back.

As mentioned in the other thread on this subject, fixing revenge is high on QOL list, so I’m hoping it can be fixed too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Piper139

Even through shields? Free ones? Purchased ones? You most likely attack far more than you defend. Would you like to be revenged by every single one? Good luck keeping loot.

---

Probably you didn't understand what i wrote. The new feature I guess Is an added button different than the old Revenge One. If you can't revenge in the classic mode, you can use the new one but the Attack Will be like a friendly Battle. No trophies, no loot, only exercise and pure revenge. If you use that feature, you can't use the classic revenge anymore for that village. That could be a lot usefull to exercise with high-trophies base without the friendlychallenge in your clan. It could be usefull especially for people like me in high Trophy ranges.

You know a feature Is useless when It isn't popular. Also in the lower leagues, who use the revenge? No one. With my ipotetical system, giving Legend league player the possibility to only exercise more than with the 8 attacks. Which are the disadvantages? People that Attack you aren't friends, so you can't ask them to change village in order to attack a war base and the revenged base don't loose trophies or loot. The pro is to have another way to exercise more than friendly challenge with other clan players.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gianzu

You know a feature Is useless when It isn't popular. Also in the lower leagues, who use the revenge? No one. With my ipotetical system, giving Legend league player the possibility to only exercise more than with the 8 attacks. Which are the disadvantages? People that Attack you aren't friends, so you can't ask them to change village in order to attack a war base and the revenged base don't loose trophies or loot. Tre pro is ti have another way to exercise more than friendly challenge with other clan players.

---

You are mistaken when you say that "no one" uses the revenge. I used it plenty of times when I was in Bronze 3 all the way to Silver 1. After that, I saw no point in using it. I don't use it because not only are the chances that the one specific base is unshielded and unguarded is slim to none, but also the potential loot that I can steal from that one base is a VERY high risk with little to no reward. I'm better off just hitting that search button. And about your idea, nice idea but no thanks. A challenge that I can't loot or push trophies is WORTHLESS to me. If I wanted your idea to be ingame, I would've asked my clanmates to do several Friendly Challenges. It's NOT about getting just the 3s that pushes me on, it's the LOOT and TROPHIES. Besides, why Revenge when you can WAR? I am a DE guzzling machine, and I thank TH9 for that. No trophies means no better leagues and better loot bonuses. No loot means no upgrading anything! With your idea, I'm better off just taking out my rage against a regular raid! I get paid if I do well, get the league bonus, climb up in trophies, AND get that sweet 5 star bonus! (My mouth is watery from just typing this!)

Ok I took your point. But how long did you last in bronze and silver league? With the actual fast Village development, in less than 6 months you can reach Crystal league. And Revenge gets useless(or Better, it's still usefull but nearly impossible to use, so no One try to use It). Over than that, why are you against my idea? It would not remove revenge, but add a new mode.

The point of It Is that in High level clan we spend lot of time doing friendly challenge, cause we have only 8 attacks+2 war attacks to exercise otherwise. Having that system would add more possible Villages to exercise with, with different bases than the common one seen from my clan mates.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gianzu

The point of It Is that in High level clan we spend lot of time doing friendly challenge, cause we have only 8 attacks+2 war attacks to exercise otherwise. Having that system would add more possible Villages to exercise with, with different bases than the common one seen from my clan mates.

---

If you are limited to 8 attacks per day then you are Legends, Legends has no revenge because that would destroy the whole concept and mechanics of how it works. Having a reworked revenge option would not be part of Legends anyway.

People need to understand what they are asking for anyway and realize that opening up Revenge without some sort of real rework will cause them to be in a MUCH worse situation then they currently are. If everyone can revenge all attacks like they seem to be asking for that means anyone they attack will be able to return the favor.

I agree it needs a rework but just allowing people to go nuts and revenge at will is a HORRIBLE idea.