Honestly why make another townhall level and add even more penalties to people who have TH 9 this game is trash
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Honestly why make another townhall level and add even more penalties to people who have TH 9 this game is trash
They added it for those who have previously maxed their base to have something more to look forward rather to stay at th8 once it's maxed.
Because you can't farm with Th9, upgrade you troops ,farm at range 1600-1900 and voila u get your gold!stop whining about that!Otherwise mines,collectors and mortars outside at each corners far far away from defense thx ;)
Sure why not why don't I just put my collectors aside from my defenses and make it easy for the rest. Hello no everyone gotta suffer
I see why your name is Junior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Grow up please.. Stop whining and play the game.
Another premature TH9, when will they learn?Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I'm th9 and happily getting 100-200k of each every raid :)
Is it because you upgraded your town hall too early when instead you should have max everything out before upgrading your TH?Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I'm sure this is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by PTran5
Junior, you might want to look at this http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ght=Quit+guide
I always laugh when I see a TH9 with black and gold walls, level 4 mortars, level 3 wiz towers, etc.... Level 50 maybe... And artificially high trophies (the intent is to try and squeak into a top clan, even though 100's of millions in upgrades need to be done, and wont be able to be done, because the best the guy can do is try and break even on attacks).
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Dude you really need to make sure your statement isn't just a product of your gameplay! I'm not trying to be a d*ck but that's a bold statement that others may see, make them give up and thus kill this brilliant game! I'm townhal 9 and for the past 3 weeks between 1200-1800 trophies I've had NO problem bringing in 200/200+! I've been playing since August and quite honestly farming is damn near better than EVER! Recently I've cut giants out of my farming unit and now I keep 5 builders busy without trying! If I were you I'd try raiding at 1400 and use a combo of breakers, barbs, arch, giants and gobs or even better train yourself to raid with breakers, barbs, arch and gobs only! I use 6 breakers, 115 gobs, 50 barbs and 50 archers. I won't even raid unless it's 200/200 or more. Bottom line is, the loot is out there bro, if you can't get your hands on it than you aren't raiding right:-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I did use only archers and gobs and some wb's always got the job done now in using 3/5 archers and barbs and rest gobs and a few wb's.Quote:
Originally Posted by LootMan3000
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Originally Posted by TNT
Collectors and mortars outside blah blah blah. Somebody said the other day this had got old..........
I couldn't agree more.
One of the biggest problems with premature town halls is that they lack the high level troops to get the loot at the higher (or ultra low) levels where it is very abundant. They can't upgrade their troops because of the loot penalties and their troop's lower levels. It's a vicious cycle really, the only way out of it is lots of hard work or gemming in the form of troops or buildings/walls.
I maxed out everything except lvl5 lightning spell and walls since they are garbage and useless against dragons. So don't tell me what to do if you don't know Wass up . Like I said everyone WILL HAVE TO UPGRADE TH9 but its going to become boring and take even a longer time not only to max out defenses but how hard it is to find loot Amen.
If you maxed everything before upgrading to TH9 that means that you shouldn't have a problem maxing everything that TH9 offers. Especially since upgrading wizards to lvl 7, mortars to lvl 7, cannons to lvl 11, archer towers to lvl 11, air defense to lvl 7, getting xbows take a long time giving you more than enough time to collect gold for whatever you decide to upgrade next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Walls are garbage? Learning something new everyday for sure. I definitely don't know Wass up. Thanks for the info! Good read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Low level walls are just an invitation to farm. No farmer uses dragons.
Of course it is a bit harder. At th9 you should have the ability and troops to take on any village.
i'm enjoying th9 enormously, those that consider walls to be useless make it even more fun.
Also if you maxed everything you should have raided to get your storages full before the TH upgrade was complete. With TH8 you can hold a max of 6 million of both gold and elixir. meaning that as soon as your TH upgrade was complete you could have immedialty purchased both xbows and upgrade your laboratory.
I eat TH 9 with lousy walls for breakfast...;) using my goblins and archers..Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Junior is only worried about dragons.Quote:
Originally Posted by elmdus
All the wrong troops being sent in all the wrong ranges ;) th9 is fine 2100 cough cough
Care to share your GC ID and clan name? I'd like to see your maxxed out base. But I doubt it's really maxxed out, most of the people who complain usually haven't, which is why they complain btw. It's the easier path and takes less effort than learning the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
P.S. Friend of Bsmittyau (sp?) ?
I do... to scare them folks away to leave me another abandoned village with full collectors/ mines :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Growler
What a bold title and statement you are screaming eh, op ?
Clan name, ign, let us scrutinize your base inside out and tell you 101 things you are doing wrong. :rolleyes:
♥♥♥♥.... Stop whining.
Th 9 with max xbows and lousy walls still scare me :D
I farm at town hall 7 and one of the things I love about it is the versatility. I frequently raid townhall 6 and sometimes 5, and I also love hitting prem baby TH 9. Ocassionally I get Dragon/Pekka spammed in revenge attacks, but then I just laugh because they get nothing because of the TH penalties :D.
Might you wanna raid me I'm at 1500 range now ;), I'm Th9 ownerQuote:
Originally Posted by Alticus
Might he not want to attack the you. You because you not got premature town hall nine and got weapon scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNT
I lol'd...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandalhat
Please no laugh me england. Me know it no powderful.Quote:
Originally Posted by weemax
I'm level 59(nearly 60) and TH9 and have level 5/6 walls, I still win most of the time, farmers or not farmers. I prefer to upgrade my defences instead of walls.
I am TH8 and sometimes I revenge and spam dragons. Sure, it's not profitable, but there comes a time when your elixir is always overflowing...and you have to sleep..so why not queue a few dragons. Nothing feels better than waking up and razing someone's Town to rubble. Who cares if I make a profit or not...I can't think of a better way to spend elixir :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Alticus
You are a weak th9, with poor walls.Quote:
Originally Posted by dominic115
I sense bravado.
If farming is keeping your builders busy all the time then you can farm at TH9 - you just need to take into account that the builds take longer so you have longer to collect resources.
100k gold from a few barbs is rare but still happens at times, most of the time you are investing 10-20k gold in 'next' to find 100k+ gold matches
Premature TH9 here as well, raiding 180 level 6 barbs at a time with a total cost of 27k Elixir and 15 minutes to create all 180 troops.
Pulling in easily 1 million gold and elixir per hour if you're constantly raiding (900kish gold after Next buttoning for them all)
Stop whinging.
Use your builders and upgrade whenever possible to minimise raiding losses.
Also at the 1400 trophy range
Hey, high five!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexchok
I love to do that too.I don't mind losing the elixir. But the gold must be worth it.
Can the op show us your village?
Please don't go into hiding.
Wasssssss uuuuuuuuuup!Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Also, my hubby is a premmy TH 9. I get so tired of reading about all the whiners who rushed to Th 9 and how hard their lives are, that whenever he complains to me he cannot find the resources to upgrade, I either tune him out or berate him for not playing the damn game properly!
I completely agree. Originally, this game was designed so that the strongest players in terms of TH, troops etc got the most loot from whoever they attacked. This encouraged lower villages to beef up quickly and learn the play the game. Because so many weaker village players ♥♥♥♥♥ed endlessly about being picked on by higher levels, SC totally butchered the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I wanted to get to TH quickly to enjoy the benefits of the extra kit, now I wish I hadn't. TH is great for defence only now, so most of my gameplay is watching things upgrade behind the shield I get from lower players who I sacrifice my TH to. i attack a couple of times a day and quickly become bored by awful loot, with a good one maybe 1 in 40. ♥♥♥♥ poor game, SC.
Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandalhat
Thanks Sand! :)
As for the topic: TH9 is fine. L2P issues are abundant in all aspects of this game however, even at TH 9.
Exactly what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy
Unless you gem a whole lot you will have more than enough time to collect the gold needed for the next upgrade (excluding walls) since the builders take 5 days + to finnish anything. It's a bit slower, sure, but I enjoy it a lot tbh.
Simply put dude, you are doing it wrong... it's a little unfair to blame the people who made the game when your comments make it sound like you don't really understand the game mechanics and AI all that well.Quote:
Originally Posted by fister
It is rubbish.
I 'only managed to raid 5.5 million gold yesterday and I wanted to upgrade an xbow.
I had to upgrade a wizard tower instead :(
god i hope you're just trolling. lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growler
Of course, though I was annoyed I had to get some sleep before I had enough for that Xbow.Quote:
Originally Posted by jkli001
As with any TH, you need to find where most of the potential targets are located. You also need to be able to take on and farm the stronger bases.
Certain days of the week, and certain times of day are poor for locating targets, but there is plenty of resource out there to be had for TH9's if you are a half decent player.
I have raided and spent upwards of 25 million gold last week at TH9. It is more difficult, and you will get your pants pulled down if you rushed your TH, but farming at TH9 is more than viable.
Yeah, hate when that happens. Did the exact same call last week. Could have left it overnight, but I had this builder you see... Anyway, 4 days left or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growler
:cool:
Then don't farmQuote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I'm also a pre-mature TH9 (since 6 weeks ago), and my base is probably at TH7 level for most of my defenses/walls. I did not know about the TH level difference at the time, and now it's too late. I only upgraded to TH9 on advise from a clan member, he said X-Bow is worth it...
It's a real expense to farm at TH9, I might spend > 50k gold just to find a decent raid, and it costs 30k elixir to produce the troops to raid (excluding spells). Many of my clan members are raiding 24/7 just to save up enough for their upgrades, it's too much work at TH9. FYI, I really enjoyed the game at TH8, raiding was much more enjoyable and affordable.
And how many hours straight did you have to raid for that 1 upgrade? I'm sure it's an excessive amount of time and effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growler
Five minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyParry
I am sure that you have no idea how much time and effort I put in.
There were numerous 250K-350K targets in the 1300 - 1500 range prior to the game time ticking over to Monday, some very simple ones.
It spanned over about five hours, It took next to no effort to log back into the game when my iPad notified me that my troops were ready.
Anyone at TH9 that still needs their hand held or bleat about resources should quit. You have failed the game.
What?? A game that needs time AND effort??? That's it, I QUIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyParry
Horrible! Isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandalhat
I want target guided wall breakers, super ninja turtle giants and a level 200 barbarian samurai-archer king that shoots fireballs from his ears or I quit!
Sorry guys but now I look at this game with less zeal than before. I farmed to max TH7 but now farming to max Th8 has become a CHORE. TH9 farming must blow choads
As I've said before. TH 9 is lots of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by brutemonkey
I'm sure supercell is realizing the overall trend of user loss. And no I won't put my mines or collectors outside, just to make it harder and make more people quit lol
This sounds completely fair. I don't understand the game mechanics and AI. And I really don't want to, I guess. This game is like TV, I like using it but have no idea how it works. Which is fine, except TV works the same every time it gets turned on, whereas this game seems to change at the drop of a hat. No problem, really, and this thread has given me a bit of advice about wbs, some I knew, some I should have. Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkpye
SuperCell owns you, admit it. 5hrs of gameplay for 1 upgrade, that's an addiction. The sooner we realise it, the sooner we can get a life. At least when I farmed on Diablo 3, I was able to make money back from my hard work on RMAH lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Growler
How on earth is it five hours gameplay? I probably spent less than half an hour on the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyParry
Shock horror, I spend a bit time playing a game I enjoy. What a fool I am for enjoying myself in my spare time.
I don't know, i have a TH9 and I'm farming 300k gold and 300k elix per attack using 80 lvl 6 barbs 125 lvl 6 archers and 15 lvl 5 wbs with 3 lvl 5 lightnings and a single lvl 5 rage, I don't always use spells because of cook times and I don't always use king/queen lvls 5/1 respectively due to sleepy times and I'm doing just fine on the farm market
I don't how your clan mates can be raiding 24/7 to save up and tell you the xbow is worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyParry
Seriously they are giving you the wrong advice.
Nobody says life at the top is easy. You know yourself that you upgraded too fast.
1 person advised that, it was back in December. Yes, he's also premature TH9, worse village than mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrimpy
The people in my clan now are level 7x, 4-5 workers, upgrading to level 6 troops, archer queen etc. They are constantly raiding to save for these upgrades, and don't go offline in fear of being raided. I often spend 8hrs online at a time saving up for upgrades, it's becoming too much.
awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Wusserton
so can you tell me your trohpy range.
Haha, dont believe him. Its a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by thekhan
Its impossible to find 300k/300k for every attack.
Lol upgrading to fast aye look at this moron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8KrP...=youtube_gdata
If he gemmed all of his units to max also then it wouldn't be so bad.
Im a premature TH9 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Djemerson13
Well if you consider level 64 "premature" :D
But im finding atleast enough loot for me to still do stuff. Either your too high on trophies. Or too low.
Agreed 300k/300k would take too much searching and you'd spend 300k gold just trying to find those bases. However it is possible to get 200k/200k every battle. I'm TH9 and max my storages constantly. I farm in the 1500-1600 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJwTC
I have no plan to go on playing after my village's unit max in TH8
Definitely harder, but not dead.
then read someone's signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by win
Seriously, that line sores my eyes now
who???????Quote:
Originally Posted by kings4ever
Their signature just says to put your collectors and storage corner of base.Quote:
Originally Posted by win
i agree, why couldnt we farm at th9?Quote:
Originally Posted by AfterShock
As requested ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by blurx
This will be my life soon, as the bf continues to obsess over upgrading his TH.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissJayne
Holy thread necro batman!Quote:
Originally Posted by MutinyBri
Since this thread got revived, your signature stopped staying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNT
mmm TH9 huh? (thread about to be de-railed slightly)
I guess the loot penalty has been explained...
The farming issues outlined....
I am TH8 (just so you have context) and good on those guys who have TH9 early and are still playing, they're making it work despite the difficulties mentioned above.
TH 9 Unlocks the following:
Level 6 troops etc..
DE elixir drills - to level 2
Extra Gold/Elixir Storage
Extra Archer Tower
Extra Walls with extra levels (up to level 10)
Extra air Defence
Extra Tesla
Two Xbows (up to level 3)
plus other extras too many to mention...TH9 players have access to the strongest weapons in the game as well as the strongest troops.
Having said that, in my opinion, I have always viewed TH9 as end game strategy. To make myself clear before I am misinterpreted. That is to say, the point at which I will no longer farm, but it will be the point where I seriously start chasing trophies and/or major clashing! My plan has always been to max level troops/walls/buildings before progressing to TH9. I am not sure what SC intended, but given the loot penalty involved, they certainly want to minimise the unfair advantage that TH9 gives an attacker and enable some sort of fairness to help junior players keep clashing..
When I look at the tourney leaderboards, and some of the leviathan players up there, I do not see anyone with TH8 or below in that category, all players have TH9 and max buildings and troops whether or not they gem'ed or farmed them.
I would be curious if others see this or have/have not considered the options...
NB: my apologies to OP but if you've played this game for longer than a month, I am sure you would have seen the guys on the leader boards...if you didn't ask yourself why isn't there anyone up there with TH9 and pink walls... I feel for your pain and can only stay, stick with it...just keep on clashing...
i think you mean additonal DE drill (total 2) and max at from lvl3 to lvl6?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny