Honestly why make another townhall level and add even more penalties to people who have TH 9 this game is trash
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Honestly why make another townhall level and add even more penalties to people who have TH 9 this game is trash
They added it for those who have previously maxed their base to have something more to look forward rather to stay at th8 once it's maxed.
Because you can't farm with Th9, upgrade you troops ,farm at range 1600-1900 and voila u get your gold!stop whining about that!Otherwise mines,collectors and mortars outside at each corners far far away from defense thx ;)
Sure why not why don't I just put my collectors aside from my defenses and make it easy for the rest. Hello no everyone gotta suffer
I'm th9 and happily getting 100-200k of each every raid :)
I'm sure this is the case.
Junior, you might want to look at this http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ght=Quit+guide
I always laugh when I see a TH9 with black and gold walls, level 4 mortars, level 3 wiz towers, etc.... Level 50 maybe... And artificially high trophies (the intent is to try and squeak into a top clan, even though 100's of millions in upgrades need to be done, and wont be able to be done, because the best the guy can do is try and break even on attacks).
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Dude you really need to make sure your statement isn't just a product of your gameplay! I'm not trying to be a d*ck but that's a bold statement that others may see, make them give up and thus kill this brilliant game! I'm townhal 9 and for the past 3 weeks between 1200-1800 trophies I've had NO problem bringing in 200/200+! I've been playing since August and quite honestly farming is damn near better than EVER! Recently I've cut giants out of my farming unit and now I keep 5 builders busy without trying! If I were you I'd try raiding at 1400 and use a combo of breakers, barbs, arch, giants and gobs or even better train yourself to raid with breakers, barbs, arch and gobs only! I use 6 breakers, 115 gobs, 50 barbs and 50 archers. I won't even raid unless it's 200/200 or more. Bottom line is, the loot is out there bro, if you can't get your hands on it than you aren't raiding right:-(
One of the biggest problems with premature town halls is that they lack the high level troops to get the loot at the higher (or ultra low) levels where it is very abundant. They can't upgrade their troops because of the loot penalties and their troop's lower levels. It's a vicious cycle really, the only way out of it is lots of hard work or gemming in the form of troops or buildings/walls.
I maxed out everything except lvl5 lightning spell and walls since they are garbage and useless against dragons. So don't tell me what to do if you don't know Wass up . Like I said everyone WILL HAVE TO UPGRADE TH9 but its going to become boring and take even a longer time not only to max out defenses but how hard it is to find loot Amen.
If you maxed everything before upgrading to TH9 that means that you shouldn't have a problem maxing everything that TH9 offers. Especially since upgrading wizards to lvl 7, mortars to lvl 7, cannons to lvl 11, archer towers to lvl 11, air defense to lvl 7, getting xbows take a long time giving you more than enough time to collect gold for whatever you decide to upgrade next.
Low level walls are just an invitation to farm. No farmer uses dragons.
Of course it is a bit harder. At th9 you should have the ability and troops to take on any village.
i'm enjoying th9 enormously, those that consider walls to be useless make it even more fun.
Also if you maxed everything you should have raided to get your storages full before the TH upgrade was complete. With TH8 you can hold a max of 6 million of both gold and elixir. meaning that as soon as your TH upgrade was complete you could have immedialty purchased both xbows and upgrade your laboratory.
All the wrong troops being sent in all the wrong ranges ;) th9 is fine 2100 cough cough
Care to share your GC ID and clan name? I'd like to see your maxxed out base. But I doubt it's really maxxed out, most of the people who complain usually haven't, which is why they complain btw. It's the easier path and takes less effort than learning the game.
P.S. Friend of Bsmittyau (sp?) ?
What a bold title and statement you are screaming eh, op ?
Clan name, ign, let us scrutinize your base inside out and tell you 101 things you are doing wrong. :rolleyes:
♥♥♥♥.... Stop whining.
Th 9 with max xbows and lousy walls still scare me :D
I farm at town hall 7 and one of the things I love about it is the versatility. I frequently raid townhall 6 and sometimes 5, and I also love hitting prem baby TH 9. Ocassionally I get Dragon/Pekka spammed in revenge attacks, but then I just laugh because they get nothing because of the TH penalties :D.
I'm level 59(nearly 60) and TH9 and have level 5/6 walls, I still win most of the time, farmers or not farmers. I prefer to upgrade my defences instead of walls.
I am TH8 and sometimes I revenge and spam dragons. Sure, it's not profitable, but there comes a time when your elixir is always overflowing...and you have to sleep..so why not queue a few dragons. Nothing feels better than waking up and razing someone's Town to rubble. Who cares if I make a profit or not...I can't think of a better way to spend elixir :p
If farming is keeping your builders busy all the time then you can farm at TH9 - you just need to take into account that the builds take longer so you have longer to collect resources.
100k gold from a few barbs is rare but still happens at times, most of the time you are investing 10-20k gold in 'next' to find 100k+ gold matches
Premature TH9 here as well, raiding 180 level 6 barbs at a time with a total cost of 27k Elixir and 15 minutes to create all 180 troops.
Pulling in easily 1 million gold and elixir per hour if you're constantly raiding (900kish gold after Next buttoning for them all)
Stop whinging.
Use your builders and upgrade whenever possible to minimise raiding losses.
Also at the 1400 trophy range
Also, my hubby is a premmy TH 9. I get so tired of reading about all the whiners who rushed to Th 9 and how hard their lives are, that whenever he complains to me he cannot find the resources to upgrade, I either tune him out or berate him for not playing the damn game properly!
I completely agree. Originally, this game was designed so that the strongest players in terms of TH, troops etc got the most loot from whoever they attacked. This encouraged lower villages to beef up quickly and learn the play the game. Because so many weaker village players ♥♥♥♥♥ed endlessly about being picked on by higher levels, SC totally butchered the game.
I wanted to get to TH quickly to enjoy the benefits of the extra kit, now I wish I hadn't. TH is great for defence only now, so most of my gameplay is watching things upgrade behind the shield I get from lower players who I sacrifice my TH to. i attack a couple of times a day and quickly become bored by awful loot, with a good one maybe 1 in 40. ♥♥♥♥ poor game, SC.
It is rubbish.
I 'only managed to raid 5.5 million gold yesterday and I wanted to upgrade an xbow.
I had to upgrade a wizard tower instead :(
Of course, though I was annoyed I had to get some sleep before I had enough for that Xbow.
As with any TH, you need to find where most of the potential targets are located. You also need to be able to take on and farm the stronger bases.
Certain days of the week, and certain times of day are poor for locating targets, but there is plenty of resource out there to be had for TH9's if you are a half decent player.
I have raided and spent upwards of 25 million gold last week at TH9. It is more difficult, and you will get your pants pulled down if you rushed your TH, but farming at TH9 is more than viable.
I'm also a pre-mature TH9 (since 6 weeks ago), and my base is probably at TH7 level for most of my defenses/walls. I did not know about the TH level difference at the time, and now it's too late. I only upgraded to TH9 on advise from a clan member, he said X-Bow is worth it...
It's a real expense to farm at TH9, I might spend > 50k gold just to find a decent raid, and it costs 30k elixir to produce the troops to raid (excluding spells). Many of my clan members are raiding 24/7 just to save up enough for their upgrades, it's too much work at TH9. FYI, I really enjoyed the game at TH8, raiding was much more enjoyable and affordable.
Five minutes.
I am sure that you have no idea how much time and effort I put in.
There were numerous 250K-350K targets in the 1300 - 1500 range prior to the game time ticking over to Monday, some very simple ones.
It spanned over about five hours, It took next to no effort to log back into the game when my iPad notified me that my troops were ready.
Anyone at TH9 that still needs their hand held or bleat about resources should quit. You have failed the game.
Sorry guys but now I look at this game with less zeal than before. I farmed to max TH7 but now farming to max Th8 has become a CHORE. TH9 farming must blow choads
I'm sure supercell is realizing the overall trend of user loss. And no I won't put my mines or collectors outside, just to make it harder and make more people quit lol
This sounds completely fair. I don't understand the game mechanics and AI. And I really don't want to, I guess. This game is like TV, I like using it but have no idea how it works. Which is fine, except TV works the same every time it gets turned on, whereas this game seems to change at the drop of a hat. No problem, really, and this thread has given me a bit of advice about wbs, some I knew, some I should have. Cheers!
I don't know, i have a TH9 and I'm farming 300k gold and 300k elix per attack using 80 lvl 6 barbs 125 lvl 6 archers and 15 lvl 5 wbs with 3 lvl 5 lightnings and a single lvl 5 rage, I don't always use spells because of cook times and I don't always use king/queen lvls 5/1 respectively due to sleepy times and I'm doing just fine on the farm market
1 person advised that, it was back in December. Yes, he's also premature TH9, worse village than mine.
The people in my clan now are level 7x, 4-5 workers, upgrading to level 6 troops, archer queen etc. They are constantly raiding to save for these upgrades, and don't go offline in fear of being raided. I often spend 8hrs online at a time saving up for upgrades, it's becoming too much.
Lol upgrading to fast aye look at this moron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8KrP...=youtube_gdata
If he gemmed all of his units to max also then it wouldn't be so bad.
I have no plan to go on playing after my village's unit max in TH8
Definitely harder, but not dead.
mmm TH9 huh? (thread about to be de-railed slightly)
I guess the loot penalty has been explained...
The farming issues outlined....
I am TH8 (just so you have context) and good on those guys who have TH9 early and are still playing, they're making it work despite the difficulties mentioned above.
TH 9 Unlocks the following:
Level 6 troops etc..
DE elixir drills - to level 2
Extra Gold/Elixir Storage
Extra Archer Tower
Extra Walls with extra levels (up to level 10)
Extra air Defence
Extra Tesla
Two Xbows (up to level 3)
plus other extras too many to mention...TH9 players have access to the strongest weapons in the game as well as the strongest troops.
Having said that, in my opinion, I have always viewed TH9 as end game strategy. To make myself clear before I am misinterpreted. That is to say, the point at which I will no longer farm, but it will be the point where I seriously start chasing trophies and/or major clashing! My plan has always been to max level troops/walls/buildings before progressing to TH9. I am not sure what SC intended, but given the loot penalty involved, they certainly want to minimise the unfair advantage that TH9 gives an attacker and enable some sort of fairness to help junior players keep clashing..
When I look at the tourney leaderboards, and some of the leviathan players up there, I do not see anyone with TH8 or below in that category, all players have TH9 and max buildings and troops whether or not they gem'ed or farmed them.
I would be curious if others see this or have/have not considered the options...
NB: my apologies to OP but if you've played this game for longer than a month, I am sure you would have seen the guys on the leader boards...if you didn't ask yourself why isn't there anyone up there with TH9 and pink walls... I feel for your pain and can only stay, stick with it...just keep on clashing...