Different Heroes?

Introduction:

What?!?!? This is not allowed, Supercell said so! Blah, blah, blah… Now, I understand supercell has stated that there will be no additional heroes, due to an imbalance in the game. However, I fell like they should add more Kings/Queens, like Giant/Goblin/Wizard, etc... There should be restrictions, which I will list and explain in some detail.


Idea and Reasons

A massive update, full of new heroes. Almost every light troop with an OP form, much like a Barb King or Archer Queen. Each hero has a different skill unique to its kind, and has switched up stats. This would change the game at higher levels tremendously. Would you have a Giant king, tanking out all the troops? Or go on a loot rampage with a crazed Goblin? They will all cost relatively the same, and each one is able to be recruited at an alter. The Barb king can be switched out for some, while the Archer Queen, others. They would have to be individually upgraded, increasing a need for loot at higher level game play.


Nerfing

Now, your base can only have 2 heroes active at a time, and if one is hurt, you cannot swap out until it is fully healed. This way, you can’t continuously attack for free, or just have an unlimited supply of fresh heroes. Also, swapping out heroes would cost a small amount of Dark Elixir, which could help prevent the problems of imbalance once again. Like I said above, they each will have to be individually upgraded. Plus, no one would have a huge difference in stats without a huge increase in DE needed for upgrades.



Troops
*(All have increased damage and health compared to normal forms)


Goblin: Increased speed compared to normal, but still targets RG. Will be used most likely by farmers and lower leveled players. However, it could easily be sent as a decoy to get towers targeting it first. Which is why its reinforced bag helps so much with health problems. It can also jump over walls, but since it goes after resources first, it's not to OP. (Goblin Bandit)


Giant: Enlarged even more with the mysterious dark elixir amulet. Not only is he tankier but slower, his amulet can do some awesome things. Within a small radius, all troops/towers automatically target him. The small radius prevents unbalance, but the ability itself could be very useful for some players, while terrible for others. (Armored Giant)


Wall Breaker: Sets off a chain of explosions when hitting a wall, destroying more and more, depending on its level. The thing that makes this sucker special is its ability to either destroy a big radius of towers and walls, or a COLOSSAL line of walls. There doesn't have to be a choice between, but I think both would work. It has less health than most heroes, but quicker speed and still targets walls. (City Breaker)


Balloons: The balloon is upgraded, with a bigger basket and balloon. It's flying unit with an increased rate of fire. It still targets defenses, but its ability to float is helpful. The balloon itself is much more reinforced, giving it the time to strategically take out a section of towers. The bombs dropped are cluster bombs, doing some additional damage to surrounding buildings. (Balloon Boss)


Wizard: Amped up wizards, splash damage is extremely worth it. Everyone would love that ability to take out multiple building out once, even with a lower base HP then most heroes. Its splash radius goes up with its level. Every 30 seconds it will drop a random weakened spell, adding chaos and chance to the game. (Arch-Wizard)


Special Heroes:
*These heroes seem OP, even as an ultimate form. That's why if you chose to use a 'Special Hero' then it is the only hero you can use at that time. All Special Heroes don't have much of a difference besides boosted stats. Any and all ideas are appreciated, I'd love extra feed back on this topic.



Healer: Healer that heals… Drops a much bigger radius of healing, maybe even heal spells at a much slower rate. This idea is not thought out as much, so feedback is necessary. (Angelic Healer)


Dragon: Come on, who doesn't want a massive flying dragon with splash damage?!?!? It has metallic armor, which boosts health a lot, but makes is susceptible to Tesla’s, much like a PEKKA. (Dragon King)


PEKKA: All around strong fighter, improved from its normal form. However, both Teslas AND Inferno
towers do extra damage. (PEKKA Knight)


Conclusion

These are my ideas. Feel free to comment suggestions or tweaks I could make. Not all of these troops have to be added, maybe SC can choose but a few. If anyone knows how to create cool looking pictures that would fit each troops, please PM. I think visuals would greatly improve my post. Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading :D

EDIT: Be sure to check back regularly, as I like to update some things. As long as it doesn't get closed ;)

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

Introduction:

What?!?!? This is not allowed, Supercell said so! Blah, blah, blah… Now, I understand supercell has stated that there will be no additional heroes, due to an imbalance in the game. However, I fell like they should add more Kings/Queens, like Giant/Goblin/Wizard, etc... There should be restrictions, which I will list and explain in some detail.

Idea and Reasons

A massive update, full of new heroes. Almost every light troop with an OP form, much like a Barb King or Archer Queen. Each hero has a different skill unique to its kind, and has switched up stats. This would change the game at higher levels tremendously. Would you have a Giant king, tanking out all the troops? Or go on a loot rampage with a crazed Goblin? They will all cost relatively the same, and each one is able to be recruited at an alter. The Barb king can be switched out for some, while the Archer Queen, others. They would have to be individually upgraded, increasing a need for loot at higher level game play.

Nerfing

Now, your base can only have 2 heroes active at a time, and if one is hurt, you cannot swap out until it is fully healed. This way, you can’t continuously attack for free, or just have an unlimited supply of fresh heroes. Like I said above, they each will have to be individually upgraded. Plus, no one would have a huge difference in stats without a huge increase in DE needed for upgrades.

Troops
*(All have increased damage and health compared to normal forms)


Goblin: Increased speed and health compared to normal, still targets RG. Will be used most likely by farmers and lower leveled players.

Giant: Just a massive tank, with a decrease in speed. Actually forces towers to target it instead, making it a useful distraction.
Wall Breaker: Don’t know how this would work… Maybe it sets off a chain of explosions when hitting a wall, destroying all in a range/line, depending on its level. Maybe it includes a choice between a destruction of a small area or a large line of walls.

Balloons: Maybe a big Blimp, but a flying unit with an increased rate of fire. It still targets defenses, but its ability to float is helpful.

Wizard: Amped up wizards, splash damage is extremely worth it. Everyone would love that ability to take out multiple building out once, even with a lower base HP then most heroes.

Healer: Healer that heals… Drops a much bigger radius of healing, maybe even spells at a much slower rate.

Dragon: Come on, who doesn’t want a massive flying dragon with splash damage?!?!? It has increased metallic armor, which boosts health a lot, but makes is susceptible to Tesla’s, much like a PEKKA.

PEKKA: All around strong fighter, improved from its normal form. However, both Teslas AND Inferno
towers do extra damage.

Conclusion

These are my ideas. Feel free to comment suggestions or tweaks I could make. Not all of these troops have to be added, maybe SC can choose but a few. Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading :D

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You don't get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being banned. New heroes= ruled out idea= locked thread.

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Originally Posted by Julezwatts

You don't get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being banned. New heroes= ruled out idea= locked thread.

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Wut? Threads can't be banned. :rolleyes:
Anyways, I think 2 heroes is enough.

2 heroes are more than enough...

Ruled out and soon to be closed..

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Originally Posted by Julezwatts

You don't get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being banned. New heroes= ruled out idea= locked thread.

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You dont get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being locked, not banned. And i dont really consider this being a completely ruled out idea. Its a new version of a ruled out idea

Personally I love this idea, it would add a whole new feature and focus of the game! Even if it is not going. To happen it is fine to still be creative?

you have my vote :rolleyes:

Thanks to those who actually read and accept the idea :)

To all those against it, say why you don't think it will work. I already countered the whole ruled out idea thing, so I don't see the problem. SuperCell ruled this idea out because 2+ heroes at once would be OP. I'm just suggesting variance to the game, giving new hero ideas, without completely unbalancing the game. Sure this idea may never get used, but I'd still like to see more feed back :)

Can a mod close this thread? You read that it's ruled out and yet you still post. Why?

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

Introduction:

What?!?!? This is not allowed, Supercell said so! Blah, blah, blah… Now, I understand supercell has stated that there will be no additional heroes, due to an imbalance in the game. However, I fell like they should add more Kings/Queens, like Giant/Goblin/Wizard, etc... There should be restrictions, which I will list and explain in some detail.

Idea and Reasons

A massive update, full of new heroes. Almost every light troop with an OP form, much like a Barb King or Archer Queen. Each hero has a different skill unique to its kind, and has switched up stats. This would change the game at higher levels tremendously. Would you have a Giant king, tanking out all the troops? Or go on a loot rampage with a crazed Goblin? They will all cost relatively the same, and each one is able to be recruited at an alter. The Barb king can be switched out for some, while the Archer Queen, others. They would have to be individually upgraded, increasing a need for loot at higher level game play.

Nerfing

Now, your base can only have 2 heroes active at a time, and if one is hurt, you cannot swap out until it is fully healed. This way, you can’t continuously attack for free, or just have an unlimited supply of fresh heroes. Like I said above, they each will have to be individually upgraded. Plus, no one would have a huge difference in stats without a huge increase in DE needed for upgrades.

Troops
*(All have increased damage and health compared to normal forms)


Goblin: Increased speed and health compared to normal, still targets RG. Will be used most likely by farmers and lower leveled players.

Giant: Just a massive tank, with a decrease in speed. Actually forces towers to target it instead, making it a useful distraction.
Wall Breaker: Don’t know how this would work… Maybe it sets off a chain of explosions when hitting a wall, destroying all in a range/line, depending on its level. Maybe it includes a choice between a destruction of a small area or a large line of walls.

Balloons: Maybe a big Blimp, but a flying unit with an increased rate of fire. It still targets defenses, but its ability to float is helpful.

Wizard: Amped up wizards, splash damage is extremely worth it. Everyone would love that ability to take out multiple building out once, even with a lower base HP then most heroes.

Healer: Healer that heals… Drops a much bigger radius of healing, maybe even spells at a much slower rate.

Dragon: Come on, who doesn’t want a massive flying dragon with splash damage?!?!? It has increased metallic armor, which boosts health a lot, but makes is susceptible to Tesla’s, much like a PEKKA.

PEKKA: All around strong fighter, improved from its normal form. However, both Teslas AND Inferno
towers do extra damage.

Conclusion

These are my ideas. Feel free to comment suggestions or tweaks I could make. Not all of these troops have to be added, maybe SC can choose but a few. Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading :D

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I honestly dont dont think its too OP because of the fact that you can only have two avalible but maybe rule out the healer, drag, and pekka ones...

Yes, I did think the higher tier troops could be overpowered... Maybe you could only have one of those heroes? That way you juggle between two heroes, or one really good hero. Plus they would cost a lot more to buy and upgrade than the rest.

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Originally Posted by slaap

Can a mod close this thread? You read that it's ruled out and yet you still post. Why?

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I answered this multiple times. It was ruled out because two many at once would cause an imbalance. If the stats are semi-balanced, along with a limit to the amount of heroes at once, then there is no real problem. If you could give me a reason why there is a problem, I'd be happy to fix the idea :)

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Originally Posted by Julezwatts

You don't get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being banned. New heroes= ruled out idea= locked thread.

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Why do I see you running around like your a god

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

Introduction:

What?!?!? This is not allowed, Supercell said so! Blah, blah, blah… Now, I understand supercell has stated that there will be no additional heroes, due to an imbalance in the game. However, I fell like they should add more Kings/Queens, like Giant/Goblin/Wizard, etc... There should be restrictions, which I will list and explain in some detail.

Idea and Reasons

A massive update, full of new heroes. Almost every light troop with an OP form, much like a Barb King or Archer Queen. Each hero has a different skill unique to its kind, and has switched up stats. This would change the game at higher levels tremendously. Would you have a Giant king, tanking out all the troops? Or go on a loot rampage with a crazed Goblin? They will all cost relatively the same, and each one is able to be recruited at an alter. The Barb king can be switched out for some, while the Archer Queen, others. They would have to be individually upgraded, increasing a need for loot at higher level game play.

Nerfing

Now, your base can only have 2 heroes active at a time, and if one is hurt, you cannot swap out until it is fully healed. This way, you can’t continuously attack for free, or just have an unlimited supply of fresh heroes. Like I said above, they each will have to be individually upgraded. Plus, no one would have a huge difference in stats without a huge increase in DE needed for upgrades.

Troops
*(All have increased damage and health compared to normal forms)


Goblin: Increased speed and health compared to normal, still targets RG. Will be used most likely by farmers and lower leveled players.

Giant: Just a massive tank, with a decrease in speed. Actually forces towers to target it instead, making it a useful distraction.
Wall Breaker: Don’t know how this would work… Maybe it sets off a chain of explosions when hitting a wall, destroying all in a range/line, depending on its level. Maybe it includes a choice between a destruction of a small area or a large line of walls.

Balloons: Maybe a big Blimp, but a flying unit with an increased rate of fire. It still targets defenses, but its ability to float is helpful.

Wizard: Amped up wizards, splash damage is extremely worth it. Everyone would love that ability to take out multiple building out once, even with a lower base HP then most heroes.

Healer: Healer that heals… Drops a much bigger radius of healing, maybe even spells at a much slower rate.

Dragon: Come on, who doesn’t want a massive flying dragon with splash damage?!?!? It has increased metallic armor, which boosts health a lot, but makes is susceptible to Tesla’s, much like a PEKKA.

PEKKA: All around strong fighter, improved from its normal form. However, both Teslas AND Inferno
towers do extra damage.

Conclusion

These are my ideas. Feel free to comment suggestions or tweaks I could make. Not all of these troops have to be added, maybe SC can choose but a few. Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading :D

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say bye-bye to your thread,soon to be closed ;)

^Why is everyone obsessed with telling me they're going to close the thread? I addressed all the problems Supercell had, and have made it clear that I want to know why it is going to be closed. Besides all that "they said so" garbage, why do YOU think it's bad. I'm just asking for feedback. BTW, don't quote the whole post... It clutters up everyone's threads :)

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

^Why is everyone obsessed with telling me they're going to close the thread? I addressed all the problems Supercell had, and have made it clear that I want to know why it is going to be closed. Besides all that "they said so" garbage, why do YOU think it's bad. I'm just asking for feedback. BTW, don't quote the whole post... It clutters up everyone's threads :)

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

Introduction:

What?!?!? This is not allowed, Supercell said so! Blah, blah, blah… Now, I understand supercell has stated that there will be no additional heroes, due to an imbalance in the game. However, I fell like they should add more Kings/Queens, like Giant/Goblin/Wizard, etc... There should be restrictions, which I will list and explain in some detail.

Idea and Reasons

A massive update, full of new heroes. Almost every light troop with an OP form, much like a Barb King or Archer Queen. Each hero has a different skill unique to its kind, and has switched up stats. This would change the game at higher levels tremendously. Would you have a Giant king, tanking out all the troops? Or go on a loot rampage with a crazed Goblin? They will all cost relatively the same, and each one is able to be recruited at an alter. The Barb king can be switched out for some, while the Archer Queen, others. They would have to be individually upgraded, increasing a need for loot at higher level game play.

Nerfing

Now, your base can only have 2 heroes active at a time, and if one is hurt, you cannot swap out until it is fully healed. This way, you can’t continuously attack for free, or just have an unlimited supply of fresh heroes. Like I said above, they each will have to be individually upgraded. Plus, no one would have a huge difference in stats without a huge increase in DE needed for upgrades.

Troops
*(All have increased damage and health compared to normal forms)


Goblin: Increased speed and health compared to normal, still targets RG. Will be used most likely by farmers and lower leveled players.

Giant: Just a massive tank, with a decrease in speed. Actually forces towers to target it instead, making it a useful distraction.
Wall Breaker: Don’t know how this would work… Maybe it sets off a chain of explosions when hitting a wall, destroying all in a range/line, depending on its level. Maybe it includes a choice between a destruction of a small area or a large line of walls.

Balloons: Maybe a big Blimp, but a flying unit with an increased rate of fire. It still targets defenses, but its ability to float is helpful.

Wizard: Amped up wizards, splash damage is extremely worth it. Everyone would love that ability to take out multiple building out once, even with a lower base HP then most heroes.

Healer: Healer that heals… Drops a much bigger radius of healing, maybe even spells at a much slower rate.

Dragon: Come on, who doesn’t want a massive flying dragon with splash damage?!?!? It has increased metallic armor, which boosts health a lot, but makes is susceptible to Tesla’s, much like a PEKKA.

PEKKA: All around strong fighter, improved from its normal form. However, both Teslas AND Inferno
towers do extra damage.

Conclusion

These are my ideas. Feel free to comment suggestions or tweaks I could make. Not all of these troops have to be added, maybe SC can choose but a few. Anyways, have a good day, and thanks for reading :D

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hahaha!evil me!i quoted all the post just because not to do that!and btw,you said you know it s ruled out and still posted it,so you think you will get good feedback?and for me,throw "they say" and i think that having 2 heroes is more than enough

You would only have two heroes at a time. The different heroes would add variance to the game, instead of the same repetitive Archer Queen and Barb King duo. Besides, I don't really care if you quote the whole thing, it's just polite to refrain from huge replies :).

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

Why do I see you running around like your a god

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Why are you only criticizing Julez, not everyone else? Do you say the same thing about Dahimi? The OP decided to ignore Supercell and still post about more heroes. Not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Julezwatts

You don't get it. Posting a ruled out idea results in your thread being banned. New heroes= ruled out idea= locked thread.

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Yes yes... I dont see why you dont read the stickies they tell you that new heroes would cause the game to become unbalanced

I actually dont mind the idea itself,it would take a lot of tweaking and thought to implement it and maybe not every troop have a hero but just a couple?i dont see it happening but its a good change on the old "more heroes posts"

I am really against the idea of a new Hero. It would just ruin the game.

How would a new hero ruin the game? It's less of a new hero, and more of a different hero approach. Thanks to all the feedback, I'll update the post sometimes. And to all those who just give vague advice, please be more specific, or at least see if your thoughts have already been voiced/answered.

Doesn't seem like people are Reading your whole post, it's an interesting idea and it's NOT ruled out in my opinion.
However, the heroes we already got is extremely powerful and it sounds like you're aiming at even better heroes?
And they have to be better to justify the amount of DE you would need for all the upgrades.
Would the Wallbreaker hero die after detonation?

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Originally Posted by Beerking

Doesn't seem like people are Reading your whole post, it's an interesting idea and it's NOT ruled out in my opinion.
However, the heroes we already got is extremely powerful and it sounds like you're aiming at even better heroes?
And they have to be better to justify the amount of DE you would need for all the upgrades.
Would the Wallbreaker hero die after detonation?

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Yeah i agree that if implemented properly, and the fact that its hard enough to save up enough DE for even one hero was addressed then it could maybe work,of course there would have to be restrictions like maye u could still only have 2 heroes but had to pick which 2 from the start?Or some other restriction which i havent given much thought to yet.then maybe it could work!id love to see the OP put some more thought into this idea and polish it up a bit

Thanks :) Like I said, this is all WIP. If you haven't checked it out, I just updated some of the Hero ideas. And as always, the more Constructive Criticism the better. My only problem with Choosing 2 from the start would be that if you want to change strategies, the heroes would be of no help. A cost of DE to switch heroes maybe?

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Originally Posted by Rootbeer101

Thanks :) Like I said, this is all WIP. If you haven't checked it out, I just updated some of the Hero ideas. And as always, the more Constructive Criticism the better. My only problem with Choosing 2 from the start would be that if you want to change strategies, the heroes would be of no help. A cost of DE to switch heroes maybe?

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Yeah i like the sound of that change,ive disagreed with a lot of other extra hero ideas but this sounds like it actually could work,It would be great for when like u said "you wanted to change strategies"Like 2 heroes for when pushing or a different 2 for when u want to farm,Would promote more thought into strategizing too..I'm not sure how the goblin king would work but the wizard king sounds pretty cool!i mean a king who dealt splash damage?who wouldnt like one

Good idea, except the wallbreaker hero, as (I think from what I read)it will break more walls? would be pretty useless and worthless if when you can just train a couple wallbreakers. Maybe he halves all of the walls' hitpoints all over the base?

Great idea! However, I think it would be better if it dealt as much damage to building as walls. So a decrease in wall damage, but it can take out buildings. Should it be able to explode multiple times, or just once with a big radius?

And Jazz, the Goblin would work as a distraction for higher levels, and a nice farming king for lower levels. Easy way to get that dark elixir for new kings :)

This is an interesting thread, ruled out or not.


The specific line from the ruled out section of the sticky is this:


"* Requests for all troop types to have a related hero"


What you are proposing is essentially the same thing as that. Your point hinges on the assumption that SC is concerned about having too many heroes active at once (correct me if I'm wrong).


I don't think that's the whole point, although I could be wrong. Even with your idea, SC would still have to code that many new heroes, make several new graphics for them and the altars, and most importantly, they would have to balance them. That many new heroes would almost certainly pose significant balance risks, with some likely being OP and others being useless. Having so many potential combos is also a big balancing issue, and honestly I'm not sure that you could even predict all the possible ways that they could be unbalanced.


The way I interpret the sticky line is that they aren't interested in adding several new heroes. I may be wrong, but I would think that if they were interested in adding more heroes, limiting the number active at any given time would have already come up within SC.


Sorry, but I do think this should be closed. If you can come up with a sufficiently persuasive point I may have missed, feel free to PM me (or another mod) and it can be reopened and modified if needed.