Why is a centralized clan castle important for low levels?

Hello all. Just recently, I have seen Daddy's video, saying that ever since you get a clan castle (townhall 3) you should always keep it centralized. However, a townhall 3-5 base is so small that it is almost impossible to make an unlurable clan castle. When a clan castle is lurable, attackers could just place one troop, then when the clan castle comes out, corner them and kill them easily.
Wouldn't it be better for a clan castle to be by the side, but still not far off from the base? Low level townhalls have very little walls to work with, so wouldn't a clan castle in the center, inside walls and everything, be a waste of walls?

Just a question. All comments are welcome. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

Hello all. Just recently, I have seen Daddy's video, saying that ever since you get a clan castle (townhall 3) you should always keep it centralized. However, a townhall 3-5 base is so small that it is almost impossible to make an unlurable clan castle. When a clan castle is lurable, attackers could just place one troop, then when the clan castle comes out, corner them and kill them easily.
Wouldn't it be better for a clan castle to be by the side, but still not far off from the base? Low level townhalls have very little walls to work with, so wouldn't a clan castle in the center, inside walls and everything, be a waste of walls?

Just a question. All comments are welcome. :cool:

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Lol thats quite hard to understand...maybe teaching them to not be a noob , and start keeping it in the center when they even get higher , need to learn from the start to get better in the future :P

In lower Ths most ppl forget this step including me at those Ths so centralised cc is important and the size of your cc army is a decent percentage of size of the attacker causing mammoth damage and even if they do lewer they still need to use a large amount of the army lowering the impact on your base

centre is the best placed for CC.however everyone use the trick to kill CC troops first.if u place CC in corner then it goes totally waste.

The Clan Castle should be centralized at lower TH's, because it is easily your best defensive unit at lower TH's. You don't want anyone avoiding it, because that makes it even easier for them to destroy you.

I understand it's very hard to make it un-lurable at lower TH's, but understand that most of the people who attack lower TH's are not seasoned players who may not know how dangerous the clan castle can be when disregarded. There isn't much any base can do when attacked by somebody who truly knows what they're doing, but luckily, most attackers are not seasoned veterans.

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Originally Posted by chrisnastybro

The Clan Castle should be centralized at lower TH's, because it is easily your best defensive unit at lower TH's. You don't want anyone avoiding it, because that makes it even easier for them to destroy you.

I understand it's very hard to make it un-lurable at lower TH's, but understand that most of the people who attack lower TH's are not seasoned players who may not know how dangerous the clan castle can be when disregarded. There isn't much any base can do when attacked by somebody who truly knows what they're doing, but luckily, most attackers are not seasoned veterans.

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Yes, the castle is important and does a ton of damage at low levels, but at townhall 3 especially, a clan castle just a bit to the side will usually cover all of your core, and most of your base.

lol just seen this. You are absolutely right it's not about luring it's about coverage - lots of bases have the CC on the side so one area won't trigger the troops when attacked - I hope that makes sense.

And yeah i forgot the AD on the TH4 base (face-palm)

Yep, teach them young, but also its a lot of fun watching level 5 troops pop out of TH3 clan castle - it gives junior members a tonne of confidence and a terrific foundation to build on.

Personally, I kept my CC at one end all the way to TH6, with my TH at the opposite end. Your CC has huge hitpoints, so can be a great tank to keep archers etc busy while a mortar/wiz tower kills them. Nearly every raid on me, especially up to TH5, they attacked my TH and didn't get much further.

But yeah, a lot of it comes down to how skilled your attackers are, and how often you actually keep your clan castle full. On my 2nd account I hardly ever bothered until TH7, to be honest, and did just fine, so putting it central was a waste I had better things to put there. Mostly I did a few raids, spent as much loot as possible, then logged off with nothing much to raid - the joys of lower TH!

In my opinion, up to TH6, there are a number of interesting and different ways to configure what there is of your little base, but the absolutely best defense is spending your loot asap, and because everything is so cheap, it's quite easy to do so.

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

Hello all. Just recently, I have seen Daddy's video, saying that ever since you get a clan castle (townhall 3) you should always keep it centralized. However, a townhall 3-5 base is so small that it is almost impossible to make an unlurable clan castle. When a clan castle is lurable, attackers could just place one troop, then when the clan castle comes out, corner them and kill them easily.
Wouldn't it be better for a clan castle to be by the side, but still not far off from the base? Low level townhalls have very little walls to work with, so wouldn't a clan castle in the center, inside walls and everything, be a waste of walls?

Just a question. All comments are welcome. :cool:

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It's not in my oppinion, just as you said it's still lurable at low lvls. Keeping it Close to the wall or in your outer layer is enough, it will still be triggered by the attacking force.
Might be useful to keep it in the center from Th 6, it's still lurable but your defences will kill alot of luring troops, I think it's ok to keep it on the outside until you reach TH 7 though.

I think there's a section in Daddy's TH9 build-a-base video where he goes into the maths behind a centralised clan castle.

Here, in a nut shell, is what's covered in the video:

- Level 10 cannon = 65 DPS
- Level 5 archer = 20 DPS
- Level 4 CC troop capacity = 25

// 25 x 1 level 5 archer = 500 DPS

With such a high damage output potential, keeping the trigger radius centralised is a huge defensive factor for any Clashers agenda. Obviously, for lower TH's it will be a little harder. But it is a general rule, which in many successful players eyes, should never be side-stepped.

At lower levels players won't even know what luring is, the CC in the middle still means that the troops will protect the whole base.

At lower levels, having a cc protected is well good because many raiders simply deploy troops without checking for cc troops, which likely may ruin their raid, especially if the defender has a dragon, balloons, wizards.

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Originally Posted by Jivuqox

At lower levels, having a cc protected is well good because many raiders simply deploy troops without checking for cc troops, which likely may ruin their raid, especially if the defender has a dragon, balloons, wizards.

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Doesn't matter where you have it if no one tries to lure out troops, aslong as it still gets triggered.

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Originally Posted by Charess

I think there's a section in Daddy's TH9 build-a-base video where he goes into the maths behind a centralised clan castle.

Here, in a nut shell, is what's covered in the video:

- Level 10 cannon = 65 DPS
- Level 5 archer = 20 DPS
- Level 4 CC troop capacity = 25

// 25 x 1 level 5 archer = 500 DPS

With such a high damage output potential, keeping the trigger radius centralised is a huge defensive factor for any Clashers agenda. Obviously, for lower TH's it will be a little harder. But it is a general rule, which in many successful players eyes, should never be side-stepped.

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and 1 lvl 1 lightning spell or a lvl 1 wiz and its all dumb. I find archers in CC stupid in useless for defense. 1 lightning and its all over, plus they're single target. I find wizards much more better. take a couple lightning, maybe 3 to kill them, they do area splash+ ton of damage, n they're ranged.

If its centered it makes luring it a little harder but it covers every side of your base.

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Originally Posted by Pranav

and 1 lvl 1 lightning spell or a lvl 1 wiz and its all dumb. I find archers in CC stupid in useless for defense. 1 lightning and its all over, plus they're single target. I find wizards much more better. take a couple lightning, maybe 3 to kill them, they do area splash+ ton of damage, n they're ranged.

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I used archers simply as an example, not a general rule.

But u have to waste a spell dealing with cc troops showing that u respect the potential.

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Originally Posted by Pranav

and 1 lvl 1 lightning spell or a lvl 1 wiz and its all dumb. I find archers in CC stupid in useless for defense. 1 lightning and its all over, plus they're single target. I find wizards much more better. take a couple lightning, maybe 3 to kill them, they do area splash+ ton of damage, n they're ranged.

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Wow... Its nice to see someone saying the same thing that I was saying a year ago, getting people upset because archers were the ultimate weapon to them...

After hitting clan after clan, and taking out the archers with one lightning...

I agree with you 100%

You guys are saying that you can lightning archers, which is true. But how many low level players will bother doing this? I don't even lightning them on my main, preferring to lure them to a corner. Even if they DO lightning them, you made them waste a spell and time luring them out, which can be pretty valuable.

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Originally Posted by Pranav

and 1 lvl 1 lightning spell or a lvl 1 wiz and its all dumb. I find archers in CC stupid in useless for defense. 1 lightning and its all over, plus they're single target. I find wizards much more better. take a couple lightning, maybe 3 to kill them, they do area splash+ ton of damage, n they're ranged.

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If we're talking about low levels here, lightning is very inefficient. I am a townhall 7 right now, and out of all the attacks I get, maybe two or three of them use lightnings to take out my clan castle.
Archers are not the best clan castle troop, but they could be made easily, everyone in the clan has them, and they do decent damage.

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Originally Posted by Bfoz

But u have to waste a spell dealing with cc troops showing that u respect the potential.

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true but you don't get access to spell factory until TH5, so most junior players don't "know" to light them up - heck some veteran players don't know either lol