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With this method I have just about reached 5 Million Heroic Heist(Dark Elixir farmed).
The build time is longer and the bases are tougher but the loot is higher.
This method will profit on Gold and Elixir as well but only enough to barely keep builders busy, therefore this is only recommended to those looking for dark elixir primarily.
It takes a lot of practice to get right. You may not do well at first.
Good luck.
What you need:
Level 6 Balloons
Level 4+ Minions(5 very recommended)
Level 5+ Lightning
Level 5 Rage
Troop ratio:
20 Balloons : 60-70 Minions is what I use
16 Balloons : 70-80 Minions seems weak
24 Balloons : 50-60 Minions is strong but takes 8 minutes longer per raid
Clan Castle:
Level 5 Minions OR
Level 3+ Dragon OR
Level 6 Balloons OR
Any mix of those
KNOW WHAT’S IN YOUR CC BEFORE ATTACKING. BALLOONS HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT USE THAN A DRAGON. NEVER BE SURPRISED BY WHAT COMES OUT OF YOUR CC.
Spells:
1 Lighting
3-4 Rage spells
Try to only use one spell per raid or even none if you can. This takes practice, I’m now barely able to keep it to one per raid.
Trophy Range: 2500-2800+
Master League Badge is a must:
The league bonus from master league is double the dark elixir given by Crystal 1 and over the course of hundreds of attacks it adds up to tens and hundreds of thousands of Dark Elixir difference.
What to look for:
Dark elixir storage and drills to the outside 2 layers and/or all in one place. NEVER GO FOR DE IN THE CORE UNLESS THE VILLAGE IS INCREDIBLY WEAK AND INFERNOS ARE SINGLE TARGET. DOING SO WILL NOT END WELL 60% OF THE TIME.
Down X-Bows(if possible, you can still work around up bows)
Single Target Infernos(if possible, at least not multi in range of the DE)
Spread out bases for easy 50% because you need to hold trophies.
Average Day - 3000+ DE
Bad Day – 2500+ DE
Good Day - 3300+ DE
Abandoned bases are your friend but don't expect to find more than one a day!(I've attacked this abandoned base multiple times :D )
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How to use balloons:
Luring:
If you can find a strong building not covered by anything or only covered by an archer tower(if it is, take out the archer tower with 1-2 balloons first). Lure archer queen and clan castle if possible(if you can’t lure AQ just rage minions on her when they meet up and if you can’t lure clan castle use lightning on it mid attack). You can always rage or lightning them off to the side in a safe place.
Balloon Drop Dispatching:
In this lure you bring the clan castle troops to a corner with most of them still alive and deploy a balloon in a way where it will pass over them. 7 wizards or 25+ archers will kill the balloon right over top of them and take 196 damage from the falling balloon. This will one shot all ground troops except level 6 wizards die after 2 balloons.
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Dealing with High Level AQ:
A level 30+ AQ will waste a lot of minions. To lure these high level queen bring her to an area near an air defense or de storage, drop a rage on the minions and then use the rage for your balloons and cc to clear that whole area at the same time; using the rage for two purposes, AQ and regular use instead of just raging on the grass or losing 20 minions to just the AQ.
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How to go deep:
Deploy in lines with bunches over air defense. Do not deploy more than 3 on top of each other near a wizard tower unless you need to take out on air defense. Attack in a v-type pattern with rages ahead of the air defense to speed balloons to the AD. Follow with minions just far enough behind that any air bombs triggered will only damage the balloons. Clean up as necessary and clear buildings if you need to deploy cc or remaining minions to what’s left deep in and exposed(outside buildings may be left and may be closer making it so your minions won’t go towards the center).
How to pick off(surgical):
Deploy 1-4 balloons on each defense in your way. Still rage air defense or DE storage like in a deep attack. Certain buildings take certain amounts of balloons to pick off.
Archer tower(alone) – 1 balloon per archer tower(2 if you have to go across a large distance)
Archer tower(multiple) – 2 per archer tower(3 if multiple level 12 towers)
Air defense – 4+ per Air defense(6 if you have to cover a lot of distance to get to it)
Wizard tower(alone) – 1-2 Balloons or 1 Balloon and 3-5 Minions
Wizard tower(multiple or protected) – 3 balloons on it and 1-2 for whatever is covering it(4 if it’s an air defense)
Get used to the ranges of certain defenses so you know what you can take with 1 minion. You need to be able to visualize its range mid-attack.
Get used to different common design and how to beat them or which to completely skip.
Common Design A(slowly getting pictures of all types) -
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Common Design B -
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...ps00537b60.jpg
GET USED TO HOW BALLOONS MOVE – THEY ARE SLOW HOGS – AND REMEMBER WALLS SPACE OUT DEFENSES. YOUR BALLOONS WILL GO SIDEWAYS NOT IN OVER WALLS.
You will have bad days, try not to get frustrated even I get angry sometimes when everything seems to be going wrong. Take it one day at a time.
Photo walkthrough(Video(s) sometime soon)
Lure and dispatch 1 Air defense(mirrored on opposite side after lure)-
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1 balloon pick of Lv12 AT while AD is distracted -
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Take out queen before rage dissipates -
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Go for a full attack on the defenses guarding the DE -
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Not enough balloons were left to remove the defenses but 50% was taken so remaining minions were flooded near a hard to reach drill on the other side(with success) -
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Thanks for putting in the time to make this ♥♥!
I'm sure this will help many. :cool:
Very cool guide ♥♥!
Will you be on norsk global later on?
This is a great guide, well written and informative! Once I max out gold this shall happen!
That's a good guide, but Th9 needs an asterisk Th9* (online time management, questionable nexting (over 20mins), spell boost).
It may not be the fastest and most efficient way to farm de, but it is more "user friendly".
Nice ♥♥! How with the barracks boost? Do you boost all of them? Or just regular rax?
Edit: why did it filter out S S?
This is a really awesome guide, thanks ♥♥!
On good days it is very fast and with practice you don't need to boost spells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ushuaia
Barracks boost is forcing me to take smaller targets but im still making off like a thief. Boosting 4 just to speed through my last upgrades before th finishes to 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
Congrats on Th10! :)
The S S were the elite bodyguards of Adolf H i t l e r during the 2nd world war. H i t l e r was the leader of N a z i Germany and he was the one who ordered the H o l o c a u s t. If you don't know this then you should read a book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fros
I thought it was censored because it's the acronym of a copycat game LOL.
Great, great guide! Thanks a lot for sharing your techniques!
And congrats for your last trophy push. Just amazing:cool:
Beautiful and detailed guide OP! I'm a Th8 at the moment, but definetley referring back to this as a TH9!
Awesome guide, definetly gonna use this when I'm levelling up my Heroes or I need to level up my DE Troops, but just a question, assuming my troops are maxed, would it be possible to use a different combo to Farm DE up here? Example: Giant Healer, BAM, Barch, BAG and also is it efficient to Farm Gold and/or Elixir in this Trophy range? If not where would the best place be to do that, I am confused on where to Farm at Town hall 9 but I am leaning towards the High Crystal/ Master league for that loot bonus, the DE and just so it looks like I'm a better player
Nice guide. I am a mid.level th9 with many gold upgrades to go, plus a few elixir.upgrades too.
Is this strategy possible to run while farming some gold too?
I have max ballooning
Sorry for the typos - I have a bad keyboard
very nice guide and some awesome tips , tnx man and congrats on almost maxed th 9 , 1 more hero upgrade
do you think i should try this without boost for spells ?
Who is that guy? When was WW2? All those years in college just wasted.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fros
LOL, that is what I thought too! I responded to an earlier thread from jetlife and i don't remember it filtering out S S.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandalhat
But know his initials have SC most hated enemy!
@jetlife your name is just bad, very bad.
Dont expect to get too many walls but you do profit gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by yagon
Awesome guide! Glad to see that we use balloons and minions a bit differently. It is more interesting this way!Quote:
Originally Posted by SSofJetlife
I will soon write a mini-guide on Balloons and minions for DE farming, but because my strategy focuses on both DE and Gold, it is a bit different and definitely not as in depth as yours. My way is definitely the lazy man's way lol
I've used BAM or similar in Crystal, but I don't think it's great for above 2400 cups, you tend to lose too many fights to maintain trophies (I used to alternate between ballinions and BAM, to maintain trophies), and especially at the moment the number of inacives seems really low no doubt due to increased activity with barracks boosts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer69420
By boosting just a single barrack, you can do a TH9 army of around 18 balloons pretty quickly, if you want to boost more barracks you can get a slightly different mix. That blend is fine up to Crystal 1, I haven't been in Masters for a couple of weeks but 20 should still be the magic number for TH9 in M3.
Personally I think for TH9 you're either farming loads of DE, or loads of Gold+Elix, it's pretty hard doing all 3. High trophies gets loads of DE, and enough gold for upgrades (not walls), as you have to skip a lot of bases. Low trophies will get you loads of gold and elixer much faster, but not as much DE. For example this weekend, my TH7 found loads of amazing collector raids in Gold 3, which a TH7 could have taken too as they were TH8 and TH9, but the DE wasn't amazing. My TH9 in Crystal 1 struggled to find any amazing raids, but made enough gold and plenty of DE.
p.s. nice guide S-S, you should also link to your best youtube videos, they are really neat and show your techniques in action.
Rats was hoping to do this after our trophy push but the cat is now out of the bag. Thanks for posting your farming and cup pushing videos ♥♥.
Would you mind posting some replays on how your base deals with hogs in champion league? I am current hovering at 2900 doing balloons sniping but am regularly getting 3 starred by th10 hoggers who can deploy more spells and troops. I'm ok with getting destroyed by mass dragons, and gowi equivalents but hoggers annoy me.
Thank you for this guide it helped me a ton since I just started to use the Balloon/Minions strategy. :D
I don't boost spells for farming anymore. It takes some practice to only use 0-1 spells per raid.(if you look I'm boosting now because I'm pushing and need all 4 spells).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fodox
My old base in champion league always won against hogs but I have a different one now which still always wins against hogs in master league.Quote:
Originally Posted by vl0071
Bunch of pictures added. Video late tonight or tomorrow.
You'd best be trolling good sir... If not then humanity is doomed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
Please remain on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fros
nice guide! Doing Balloons and minions now with the boost in rax and dark rax. but I'm finding it really difficult to get past 2400 cups.. have been hovering at 2200-2300 for a while now.. would really appreciate it if u posted videos of ur attacks..
PS: I copied ur base design by the way, as hogs are a bothersome bunch for me.. :)
Nice guide ŚŚ! Would you use this method to get to masters as well?
how much DE do you aim for an hour/day? assuming you get 3 raids in every 2 hours, how much do you expect in that time? Do you prefer this to Barch-ing drills/storages at gold/crystal because it takes less input and is easier not to get distracted by 400k+ gold raids?
lemme put it another way I guess, say your storage is empty, how long do you expect it to take to fill to 200k?
I have little experience with balloonion but can do pretty much anything with barch+wb, so I'm trying to change my mindset a bit hah.
-NaturalAnthem
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nice only if I could reach th9 tmr id be showering in de
Could you share a base to use to retain our DE at these high trophy ranges? I am concerned that right when I log off I will risk losing all my hard work.
great guide.
you still lost to unity sharp.
but by god ur a good farmer. :o
Nope they called off the competition and he cup pushed to champions league instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlomie
Wheres the vid:confused:
Awesome guide S S! I recently maxed th 9 except walls ( all lvl8), king lvl11 and queen lvl10. So, do u think i should farm Dark elixir first or walls to lvl9 first?
I would appreciate it if u reply, thanks :)
I would be very interested to see you base able to defend your de with a th9 base against mass hogs and ballonions
was in master 3 once and had no fun returning to my base for a 50% loss (1-2 stars) every time I logged of
I think your method is only viable if you can stay online for a longer period which make a loss of 2500 de not so important
i am not $$ but this is what i think you should do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hhhhh
since walls are harder to farm (1bil gold for lvl9+10) compare to heroes (4,247,500 DE, lvl11-30 king + lvl1-30 queen).
so this is what you should do.
farm 170 lava walls (not legos) first.
then start farming DE.
While farming DE you will get gold too, put the golds into walls.
by the time you maxed hero, your walls should be done/almost done/done long ago.
Dont focus on DE and forget walls or focus on walls forget DE because at some point, they will be unbalance and will be like elixir, a total waste.
Thank you $$ for this guide. Best guide by far.
i wish i had lv 6 Loons
thanks for the guide man! rated 5 stars!
Love using this. Even though we are able to cheaply boost the spell factory, I am trying to learn how to use this strategy spelless like you suggested.
Will you be posting videos? It looks really good atm :)
Very nice guide. I look forward to using it once my base is strong enough to somewhat hold up in masters
Great guide, awesome job~~~
What is the fastest and most efficient way? Just curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ushuaia
Fantastic thread. I've also found some success barching in M1 :)
Have to try that as well as this DE M1 farming at TH9 of course. Great guide!Quote:
Originally Posted by EHajari
Did he find Steve's account?!?
Osome guide, this'll be my best tread by far!!! Thanks!!! ;):D:)
Great guide ŚŚ.. Will try this soon after I finish my walls and give focus on upgrading my heroes. Subbed to your YouTube account as well.
amazing thread, but I came back (now that I'm actually in master league) and all the images have been taken down! Can we get those screenshots back up?
Please don't bump old threads. Also, try PMing S.S about this instead. Chances are he'll reply faster.
Right click and open in new tab.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdanly
Cant view from a mobile device though.
The thread is only four months old and still has a high level of interest. As well as his question which is totally fair, why not ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipM
Please stop trying to police the forums.
For a town hall 10 do you suggest 3 rage 1 freeze 1 light or just 4 rage 1 light.
I was barching in m2 and averaged 3m gold always full on elix so I don't know how much i got and around 40k de a day, but i couldn't maintain cups once i started leveling heros. Definitely fun to farm up there though
Can't decide if I should use loonion or Brandon's barch tactic.
apparently you need to upgrade to plus for additional bandwith.
I feel sorry for those higher town halls, at TH8 I simply go Balloonion, BAM, or Barch and get 1200 loot per raid in gold league
Great guide ♥♥! Will definitely keep this in mind when I start loonioning
Bandwidth problem
Nice !! Very helpful guide
one word- AWESOME