The problem with loot is not the amount available but the distribution of this amount

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December 19th, 2013
fifi

The problem with loot is not the amount available but the distribution of this amount

Let's do some simple math/probability comparing the old and the new loot system.

1 simple example : a TH10 attacking a TH9 focusing on the storages ONLY, forget the collectors and for simplicity, forget the loot penalty.

old system: The percentage of gold/elixir that can be stolen from storages is 25% and is capped at 198k. So it is almost 'independent' of the amount available. 1 million in the storage = 198k available; 5 millions in the storage = 198k available.

new system: percentage is capped up to 400k according to the storage amount. 1 million in the storage = 100k available; 4 millions or more in the storage = 400k available.

So the big question is : how many players have 4 millions or more right now in their storages ? Because :

before if you imagine that 25% of the players avec < than 1 million in their storage and 75% have > than 1 million then your chance to find a 198k loot available is simply 75% = 3/4

but now if you imagine that 25% of the players have < than 1 million, 25% between 1 and 2 millions, 25% between 2 and 3 millions and 25% > 3 millions, well, then your chance to find a 198k loot available (or more) is now only 50% = 2/4

So loot is out there but the distribution is completely different. More 'bad' loot around 100-150k and fewer 'good' loot around 200k or more.

Oh and by the way, there is a little poll to illustrate that if you want to answer,

thanks
December 19th, 2013
TheGreatPhoenix

Well that's not really fair cuz I just spent for upgrades. Should I vote what I had before?
December 19th, 2013
Glaciesvir

Hardly a fair question as if I use myself as an example. Currently I have very little gold stored, but not because of the new system, but simply as I have nearmaxed th8 and have just the walls to finish. In about two days I will start to store gold for th9 and once that is underway I can start to fill my storages in preparation for the th getting finished. So during the query time I should go from zero to hero and back to zero. For the raiders it will simply be a matter of when thay happend to catch my base shieldless and me offline. Another day my base will be a poor excuse for a raid target, but on others it will be a gold mine.
December 19th, 2013
adram101

Who cares what your current situation is, it would average out across the population
December 19th, 2013
Foufoumoro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakhoumgeorge

Well that's not really fair cuz I just spent for upgrades. Should I vote what I had before?

Nop just be honnest with what you currently have.

I'm an advanced TH9 player, with a farming problem (45 lvl 9 walls in just over 3 weeks of being TH9), so I guess I'm more than anyone driven to having my storages filled all the time.
But as a matter of fact, I manage most of the time to log out with less than 2M available in my storages because I hate being looted.

That illustrates how the new loot system is broken: the percentage of player with more than 2M in their storage is WAY TOO LOW to balance the insane nerf of available loot (before upate when having 1M in storages it meant 200k loot available for others now it's ridiculous 100k).

I dont get how SC doesnt see how broken the system is.
The few players with max storages (it also often means maxed bases so less likely to be attacked by majority of players) cant make up with the overall nerf of all the bases which previously appeared as 200k bases and now appear as 100k base, non profitable....

The system is broken.
December 19th, 2013
vincentinator

Sitting on 9000 gold atm;)
December 19th, 2013
Keywal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foufoumoro

Nop just be honnest with what you currently have.

I'm an advanced TH9 player, with a farming problem (45 lvl 9 walls in just over 3 weeks of being TH9), so I guess I'm more than anyone driven to having my storages filled all the time.
But as a matter of fact, I manage most of the time to log out with less than 2M available in my storages because I hate being looted.

That illustrates how the new loot system is broken: the percentage of player with more than 2M in their storage is WAY TOO LOW to balance the insane nerf of available loot (before upate when having 1M in storages it meant 200k loot available for others now it's ridiculous 100k).

I dont get how SC doesnt see how broken the system is.
The few players with max storages (it also often means maxed bases so less likely to be attacked by majority of players) cant make up with the overall nerf of all the bases which previously appeared as 200k bases and now appear as 100k base, non profitable....

The system is broken.

the volume of people who dont see this is frightening.
December 19th, 2013
TheGreatPhoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foufoumoro

Nop just be honnest with what you currently have.

I'm an advanced TH9 player, with a farming problem (45 lvl 9 walls in just over 3 weeks of being TH9), so I guess I'm more than anyone driven to having my storages filled all the time.
But as a matter of fact, I manage most of the time to log out with less than 2M available in my storages because I hate being looted.

That illustrates how the new loot system is broken: the percentage of player with more than 2M in their storage is WAY TOO LOW to balance the insane nerf of available loot (before upate when having 1M in storages it meant 200k loot available for others now it's ridiculous 100k).

I dont get how SC doesnt see how broken the system is.
The few players with max storages (it also often means maxed bases so less likely to be attacked by majority of players) cant make up with the overall nerf of all the bases which previously appeared as 200k bases and now appear as 100k base, non profitable....

The system is broken.

how hilarious. Stop whining. System is better than ever. You want me to vote what I have now to prove that the system is bad. I voted over 4 million! How's that? Yes I do get 4 million in a day. You need to step up and farm harder.

Oh and btw... You are not an advanced TH9 player, let's just say that.
December 19th, 2013
DragonxXx

Quote:

Originally Posted by adram101

Who cares what your current situation is, it would average out across the population

Agreed +1 you don't base your findings on 1 set of results.
December 19th, 2013
Keywal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakhoumgeorge

how hilarious. Stop whining. System is better than ever. You want me to vote what I have now to prove that the system is bad. I voted over 4 million! How's that? Yes I do get 4 million in a day. You need to step up and farm harder.

Oh and btw... You are not an advanced TH9 player, let's just say that.

are you serious? 1 hour ago you said you had nothing left cause you spent it on upgrades then you purposely abuse the poll by lying? i hope that made you feel manly.

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Originally Posted by adram101

Who cares what your current situation is, it would average out across the population

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonxXx

Agreed +1 you don't base your findings on 1 set of results.

Correct you cant do this but if enough people answer truthfully in a short space of time you can get a measure of what is out there.
its not perfect but its just a poll to support the OP's comments which you have all ignored.
it just a thought experiment.

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