Spring Update 2019 - In-game Economy Changes

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Originally Posted by Lightbringer123

When will the update take place

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There will be a developers video in 2 weeks, and in that video the release date will be revealed. Source: Darian’s AMA :).

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

So the past year of content for high end players doesn't count towards giving maxed players content. Got it. Nevermind that we added a new TH level, War Leagues, and an esports venue aimed at maxed out players, and already have new content planned this year.

Let's also disregard saying that we've stated for numerous times that the fix for the clouds is coming in the first half of the year and that we've vociferously been saying it's not in this update.

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I can feel u broth. Sounds all gud to me agree with u

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Originally Posted by eitiel

I don't think newbies (or old timers) would be able to max their heroes and lab in 6 months from sctrach, that's a trolly exaggeration

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hey with all the reductions, i think its a real possibility
albeit not by june, that was an exaggeration yes. but very possibly by the end of the year

to put it into context, heroes can be maxed easily in 6 months currently for th10 lvl from scratch
lab on the other hand needs about a year

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Originally Posted by VictoryReborn

So I looked it up, and for most it takes 7-8 months to max FROM A MAXED TH9. Now factor in all other town hall levels and it takes well over a year, especially if you don't have 5 builders.

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thats because youre stuck on the idea of maxxing

look back at th9, th8, th7, blah blah blah. think of the loot u used to raid then 300k each? 400k each? 3k de?

compare that with th10 loot. sure it could take 7-8 months from a maxed th9, without magic items
with magic items, i would say 6 months at most.
th8 n th7 would take even less time to max with th10 loot levels, and dont even bother mentioning lower ths
the problem with your thinking is that youre thinking in terms of the lousy loot levels at lower THs, the only thing restricting maxxing th10 more quickly is the LAB, which takes about a year

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Originally Posted by bostone

Wow! Not one of these things are actually helpful to me or any other max base...

You guys kept doing these updates but are STILL choosing not to fix clouds.

So frustrating, just cant believe how much you guy have ignored your longest and most dedicated users.. I've had it with this game, enough is enough, I'm about to be the third th12 in my clan alone to retire.

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You got a whole new TH level like a half year ago? What do you expect, an update everyday? Jesus Christ... Beside that, there’s a big event coming in the next months, specially made for people like you. Gather some maxed players as well and join the ESL tournament.

I and a bunch of others already explained why this is a good update, I won’t bother repeating again and again what’s already been mentioned several times.

And as so many people, including Darian have stated already: the clouds fix is underway but not this update. Whining about it won’t help you or others in the clouds. Meanwhile there’s an easy fix if you want to find bases quicker: drop some trophies. And if you don’t want that (I understand), then you just got to be patient.

Rage Spell cost 33.000 elixir not 31.000

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Originally Posted by ernharthsw

Most of the replies I see to my comment are generally: SC is trying to make it feasible to max for new players, keep it fresh for top players so they dont quit, etc. Yes they've done this before.. they are both bad for top players. If you want it so new players can get through th10 in a year, and th12 in another year, then lower the gem costs of resources and upgrade times and have pay-to-play the way to upgrade faster. If you cant grind for 4 years+ like everyone has been, then you dont deserve a maxed base/ need to get that wallet out and make up for the lost time. To keep the game fresh how about new game modes like with games and war league. Making it easier for everyone to catch up isn't good for advanced players. It's only good for people who've never put in the most time

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Sorry, why is this bad for top players? Top players don't have any disadvantage with this happening. It doesn't impact their game at all. It's positive for newer players, and neutral for top players. If anything, top players have an advantage, as they are more experienced in the many tactics and nuances of the game. There is going to be more th12s with less experienced clashers. Sure this applies to your own clanmates, but it will apply to every other clan too. Top clashers will still be valuable. But anyway, my question remains: Why is this bad for top players? And how does this outweigh the benefits (ie. a healthy game)?

Your suggestion isn't any better: can you imagine the uproar if supercell lowered the gem costs? All the people who paid their way will feel cheated.

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Originally Posted by RagingRabbit

I see a lot of selfish players around here. THINK and use your brain for once (sorry mods, please don’t ban me for this ��).

This game came out in 2012 with only 8 townhall levels (TH9 came pretty fast after that). TH9 used to be what max TH12 now is. You were pretty far already in the game once you got to TH7 - like being at townhall 10 right now. It took a long time to get there but it was achievable.

That’s what SC is doing here: making sure maxing your village isn’t impossible to do, even as a new player. Would you like to start this game, knowing that it would take years to catch up to a decent level? What does a game need to survive? Paying customers. New paying customers. Thus the grind can’t get prolonged without any compensation for the lower levels. I don’t know the exact numbers of course but I wouldn’t be surprised if the time to max is now more in line with what it used to be. Still a very long time, but achievable for players who are dedicated.

You can ignore all of this of course and being selfish and wanting the old wall prices back and so fort but that will only cause the game to die fast and then your nice maxed out and expensive village is gone too.

You can also quit the game because “the upgrades will become shorter and less expensive anyway so why would I play”, ignoring the fact that what you have, a high town hall with all the bells and whistles, is something new players will have to grind years for. Enjoy your village and the game and don’t be mad because it has been made more achievable for new(er) players.

To conclude: thank you Darian for this announcement and I like the changes. Both for myself and for the survivability of the game. Certainly the lab upgrades needed it so that’s great.

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As I stated before, I don’t think players should get their resources back. That said...

Is it wrong to be “selfish” in a competitive game? Some players like not only having the “new toys” from the upper halls, they like being more upgraded than other players. Even before CWL gave you a real benefit for being more upgraded and even for players that don’t care about trophy pushing, many players play the game to upgrade and see it as a bit of a competition to be more upgraded than others. Then, of course, on top of that we have CWL and trophy pusheing where there is a real advantage to being more upgraded.

So, again, what is wrong with players wanting to be more upgraded than others and not wanting millions of other players to suddenly have a year of upgrading (I just made that time frame up, but considering all reductions not just this one it probably has been more than a year) knocked off their journey overnight? I see nothing wrong at all for trophy pushers to not approve of players less upgraded than them suddenly catching up. The same goes for CWL.

Also, with books, potions and medals, it doesn’t take all that long to upgrade to th12 now anyway compared to upgrading to the old “max” before that stuff all existed.

In answer to your question of would I like to start this game knowing it would take years to upgrade? Yes. In fact, I recently started another new account. Playing the game involves upgrading. That is part of the fun. However, I do understand SC’s concern about new players who know little to nothing about the game being worried about that time frame. That is why I also understand and am ok with the changes.

I don’t like the selfish argument or the comparison to purchasing products because this is, after all, a competitive game.

Does that mean I think there should be refunds of the resources? No. That would be exactly the opposite of what SC is trying to accomplish with the reductions.

If SC thinks it is needed to keep the game going for a long time, then it probably is a good idea. I don’t want the game to end. So, I’m fine with it.

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Originally Posted by Aftushaikh

What about the walls???? They are also very expensive from th9 😧😧 do something for that also asap 🙏

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Are you serious?? It took me only 2 and a half months to max both levels of walls. Th9 gives ridiculous amount of loot in Gold league and Crystal league. Try Farming efficiently.

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

Just confirmed, it is correct.

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God Bless you ! May you live for 10000000 years for bringing lvl.3 witch to Th10 ! Bowitch is the first attack that I mastered as a Th10. Can't tell you how happy I am. Mwwwaaahhh....😚