Clan War Leagues - Fair Play Policy - Our Stance on Win-Trading

If Lach is speeding in his Prius on a back country road where no one even notices while I am speeding in my Ferrari on a very public road in front of a lot of people with a big sign that says I’m awesome while posting videos online about how awesome I am and maybe even making some money from people watching my videos showing my speeding, I’m more likely to get caught and fined for speeding. That might be “selective” enforcement, but that doesn’t make it a bad thing or anything that should be surprising.

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Originally Posted by Ajax

There are no rules from the TOS that you can be sure of getting away with breaking. There are also none you can be sure you will be punished for.



No it isn't. If they were claiming to strictly enforce all rules, then it would be hypocritical. But they have never claimed any such thing.

It is NOT hypocritical to enforce some rules but not others, nor to selectively enforce the ones they do, so long as they are not claiming otherwise.

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I think it would be hypocritical if they "enforced the ToS" without clarifying what rules they're using by hiding behind "it's in the ToS so it's a violation" if they aren't enforcing all rules based on "it's in the ToS so it's a violation". I haven't seen them do that (meaning, enforce vaguely worded rules without clarifying first). I've seen them make clarifications first, rather than hiding behind the idea that we should all know what they're going to enforce.

If someone comes up with items that they are enforcing that are also vague ToS references with no subsequent clarification, I can see an argument for being a hypocrite a bit there. I haven't seen that specific enforcement though, so I tend to agree with you.

There's nothing hypocritical in my mind about choosing to handle different violations differently, or in evaluating language differently than others might. Being hypocritical is saying one thing and doing another...SC DOES seem to be pretty consistent in saying "we'll decide what's a problem and what's not, and we'll decide how to punish people for it". That may not be popular (and is definitely vague), but it seems more up front and honest than hypocritical.

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Originally Posted by dmoore1998

I think it would be hypocritical if they "enforced the ToS" without clarifying what rules they're using by hiding behind "it's in the ToS so it's a violation" if they aren't enforcing all rules based on "it's in the ToS so it's a violation". I haven't seen them do that (meaning, enforce vaguely worded rules without clarifying first). I've seen them make clarifications first, rather than hiding behind the idea that we should all know what they're going to enforce.

If someone comes up with items that they are enforcing that are also vague ToS references with no subsequent clarification, I can see an argument for being a hypocrite a bit there. I haven't seen that specific enforcement though, so I tend to agree with you.

There's nothing hypocritical in my mind about choosing to handle different violations differently, or in evaluating language differently than others might. Being hypocritical is saying one thing and doing another...SC DOES seem to be pretty consistent in saying "we'll decide what's a problem and what's not, and we'll decide how to punish people for it". That may not be popular (and is definitely vague), but it seems more up front and honest than hypocritical.

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Thank you for making my point better than I did.

Ok, so since there is no matchmaking. What would happen if some entity similar to fwa takes over an entire league tier, like crystal 3? If every clan in crystal 3 sets their bases up in fwa style, would that violate fairplay tos?

Why wouldn’t it?

nice work, SC

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Originally Posted by Gxr900

Why wouldn’t it?

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I'm assuming this question is for me. I'm just pointing out that because there is no matchmaking, technically an entire tier can be designated as a medal farming tier. Also it seems to me that fwa isn't so much match fixing as it is a style of play.

How does the FWA fit in with the win trade policy?

It fits in as another example of how to play the game that SC did not envision.

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Originally Posted by oldsalt1981

It fits in as another example of how to play the game that SC did not envision.

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To me it's just an extension of the war clan vs farm clan division. Some people just don't like war. They seem to put a lot of work into not matching war clans and at least some (most?) will fight if they do match a non FWA clan. So to me, its odd, but whatever floats their boat. Its one of those delightful gray areas in clash life.