Idea for Revenge Attacks

When I go through my attack log, it is unusual for there to be an available revenge attack. Here is a “rough” thought.

Implement a mechanism called a “Dark Revenge” attack (it would need to be a new button on the defense log):

A. The Dark Revenge attack would cost the attacker some Dark Elixir, which automatically goes into the loot cart of the attacked player.

B. Dark Revenge can attack through shields whereas a normal revenge, and a normal search cannot.

C. With Dark Revenge attacks, you could also hit a player that just Dark Revenge attacked you, but the Dark Elixir cost escalates with each successive attack. This might make for some epic back and forth battles!

This would also reduce the search time for attacks - if you are willing to spend some dark elixir...

This wouldn’t work in higher leagues where the revenge feature is almost impossible to lose. It would become who has the most time and extra DE to get to the top. Also, attacking through a shield, one possibly paid for with real money, is a bad idea. If I am shielded and cooking troops for a war attack with 30 minuets left in war and then someone revenges me through my shield, I am screwed in my war attack because my hero’s are likely now regenerating. This would also allow players to “farm the revenge list”. Why play multiplayer when I can wait for someone on my list to save for a big upgrade?

This completely undermines the entire shield system. You do understand that all of the players that YOU attack could then revenge you through your shield, right? How would you like to log in one morning to find that 20 people revenged you through your shield? Might as well remove Shields and guards entirely from the game.

I have a better idea, how about there's a 15 minute window, where the player that's revengable (once the shield and guard has expired), is left unnatackable by multiplayer, and can be revenged.

This will not be allowable if a.) the revengabke player is in the midst of a clan war, or b.) the revenable player offers more than 50 trophies AND is a TH or less lower than your account.

This might be a better option than Dark revenge.

It also might be a lousy option overall lol.

Revenge works fine in lower trophy leagues. In upper leagues it doesn't because there is a delay allowing the general player population to attack before it can be revenged. This prevents players working together to gift trophies, shields, etc. It is necessary. In upper trophy leagues just ignore it. I don't understand the facination with revenge.

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Originally Posted by XCdude96

I have a better idea, how about there's a 15 minute window, where the player that's revengable (once the shield and guard has expired), is left unnatackable by multiplayer, and can be revenged.
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At one time (no longer true), a base was available for revenge when it immediately entered the matching pool. Now, there is an intentional delay placed upon Revenge attacks, a base is always made available to the general pool first. Given that they intentionally added that Revenge delay for reasons, why then would they completely reverse that, opening it up to Revenge first?

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Originally Posted by rowman

At one time (no longer true), a base was available for revenge when it immeidiately entered the matching pool. Now, there is an intentional delay placed upon Revenge attacks, a base is always made available to the general pool first. Given that they intentionally added that Revenge delay for reasons, why then would they completely reverse that, opening it up to Revenge first?

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Because it would be nice to be able to get back at someone who just hit you for 50 trophies, that's overloaded with loot that you need... Plus, there's no such thing as a revenge once you hit Champs league or higher. At that level, every base that is revengable is attacked IMMEDIATELY once the guard runs out.

Believe me, I've sat clicking continuously on the revenge button for 5 mins straight, waiting for the "Can't attack because opponent has a guard," message to go away. The second that stinking message goes away, it is then immediately replace by "Can't attack because the village is already under attack!"

I mean, what is the point of a revenge in the first place, if you NEVER GET THE CHANCE to revenge?

Just a thought... 😂

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Originally Posted by XCdude96

I have a better idea, how about there's a 15 minute window, where the player that's revengable (once the shield and guard has expired), is left unnatackable by multiplayer, and can be revenged.
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They deliberately did the exact opposite of that, in order to stop collusion and win trading using revenge. Which was rife at the top.

So there is actualky a period (5 minutes I believe) when the base is available for multillayer attacks before it becomes available for revenge.

All I know is that Revenge mechanism doesnt work. IF there are no useful suggestions for getting it fixed, then just take it out of the game. Sitting in the cloud waiting for an attack simply doesnt make the game more appealing to play. ON the other hand, being attacked by someone 5 leagues higher - because they were stuck in a cloud doesn’t seem like a good solution, either.

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Originally Posted by GaTechie87

All I know is that Revenge mechanism doesnt work. IF there are no useful suggestions for getting it fixed, then just take it out of the game. Sitting in the cloud waiting for an attack simply doesnt make the game more appealing to play. ON the other hand, being attacked by someone 5 leagues higher - because they were stuck in a cloud doesn’t seem like a good solution, either.

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It does work in lower trophy ranges, so taking it out of the game is a bad idea. Just ignore it in upper trophy ranges. Now that list of 100 other players that is totally irrelevant on the other hand, that they might as well remove.

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Originally Posted by 2222

It does work in lower trophy ranges, so taking it out of the game is a bad idea. Just ignore it in upper trophy ranges. Now that list of 100 other players that is totally irrelevant on the other hand, that they might as well remove.

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I have dropped to lower leagues - and my experience was the same at all levels. (Although I didnt dump trophies all the way to the silver leagues). I have found that in all leagues MOST of the villages in my log are not attackable. My feeling is that if someone hits me, I should have the right to hit back - and if I hit someone, they have the right to hit me back (shield or no shield).

If this is going to be PvP, then both players should have the opportunity to hit and be hit. Hopefully, if I am a better PvP player, I can hit harder than I am getting hit most of the time. Hitting someone and then hiding behind a shield is not really PvP.

I remember those COC commercial with Liam Neeson that advertised the whole idea of Revenge Attacks, yet it has been more than a year since a revenge attack was available to me.

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Originally Posted by GaTechie87

I have dropped to lower leagues - and my experience was the same at all levels. (Although I didnt dump trophies all the way to the silver leagues). I have found that in all leagues MOST of the villages in my log are not attackable. My feeling is that if someone hits me, I should have the right to hit back - and if I hit someone, they have the right to hit me back (shield or no shield).

If this is going to be PvP, then both players should have the opportunity to hit and be hit. Hopefully, if I am a better PvP player, I can hit harder than I am getting hit most of the time. Hitting someone and then hiding behind a shield is not really PvP.

I remember those COC commercial with Liam Neeson that advertised the whole idea of Revenge Attacks, yet it has been more than a year since a revenge attack was available to me.

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It works fine for me as a th11 in crystal. Admittedly, the back and forth is to give trophies back.

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Originally Posted by GaTechie87

I have dropped to lower leagues - and my experience was the same at all levels. (Although I didnt dump trophies all the way to the silver leagues). I have found that in all leagues MOST of the villages in my log are not attackable. My feeling is that if someone hits me, I should have the right to hit back - and if I hit someone, they have the right to hit me back (shield or no shield).

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It is quite a long time since I have been there, but I used to find in Gold that it was about 50/50.

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If this is going to be PvP, then both players should have the opportunity to hit and be hit. Hopefully, if I am a better PvP player, I can hit harder than I am getting hit most of the time. Hitting someone and then hiding behind a shield is not really PvP.

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But CoC is not PvaP, and is not going to become PvP.

You have builder base for that.

Even for the revamp of legends that is coming to combat clouds, just about the one thing they have stated is that it won't be PvP.