[ 1 & only ] CWL match up thread

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Originally Posted by iGroot

They can abuse it but it's not like you're going against 10 clans that do that each CWL right?

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It's one thing to drop cups & hit next till you can find a dead base that's near your TH level. It's another to use a TH that's 2 or 3 levels above to bully the more plentiful lower level bases. SC prevents that with loot penalties & using some base matching in lower leagues.

This time, it's only 1 clan out of 8. CWL is still very new. It took several months after SC quit counting offense in MM before you saw lopsided bases spring up like weeds. I won't be surprised if half the clans doing CWL are shuffling bases around to rack up easy medals in a few months. The incentive is strong, but it will completely discourage mixed TH clans trying to play it straight from participating in CWL.

I promised to give an update on our status. We actually won the first war they had twice as many th12 and 11s but 3 of them didnt attack probably trying to drop. Second war we won they were just bad attackers War map was about equal. Third war was like the first war twice the th12 and 11s they were very rushed and we actually ended up in a draw. Now I will remind you of my lineup 4 th 12 4 th11 7 th10. Currently our fourth War and we are facing all th12 well developed not rushed. First three attacks 0 stars for us and now people do not want to even attack. The under lying problem with all this is the human factor. These kind of offset bad matches have a bad effect on Clan morale. Personally as a leader I'm a little sick of dealing with it. Not sure I will have the patience to endure several months of this before leagues balance themselves out. Actually let me clarify that I don't believe or have faith that leagues will balance themselves out. Just my two cents. Endurance is certainly a factor in this game when it comes to dealing with the problems within this game. Been at it for five years and I've seen it all it just seems to be the same old story hurry up and wait it will fix itself LOL.

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do you think we can call this a fair matchmaking in war league ???? Seriously, how do you want us (clans with little th) to win something with that kind of mathcmaking ???

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May I know which league are you in? And there is no matchmaking in CWL.

There is no matchmaking in CWL once you get placed into a league.You will have to recruit stronger players or drop down to a comfortable league.

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Originally Posted by cjsteve

I promised to give an update on our status. We actually won the first war they had twice as many th12 and 11s but 3 of them didnt attack probably trying to drop. Second war we won they were just bad attackers War map was about equal. Third war was like the first war twice the th12 and 11s they were very rushed and we actually ended up in a draw. Now I will remind you of my lineup 4 th 12 4 th11 7 th10. Currently our fourth War and we are facing all th12 well developed not rushed. First three attacks 0 stars for us and now people do not want to even attack. The under lying problem with all this is the human factor. These kind of offset bad matches have a bad effect on Clan morale. Personally as a leader I'm a little sick of dealing with it. Not sure I will have the patience to endure several months of this before leagues balance themselves out. Actually let me clarify that I don't believe or have faith that leagues will balance themselves out. Just my two cents. Endurance is certainly a factor in this game when it comes to dealing with the problems within this game. Been at it for five years and I've seen it all it just seems to be the same old story hurry up and wait it will fix itself LOL.

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Being a clan leader myself for 5 years, I totally understand the “clan morale” impact so I sympathise with your position but you are right it’s the “human factor” that is the problem (not necessarily the CWL meta being the problem). The problem is that when the going gets tough, people quit instead of sticking it out and as I posted earlier everyone expects to win every single cwl war which is unrealistic. The fact that you have won 2 out of the first 3 and drawn the third means that the meta is “working”. You are in the right spot.

I also agree with you that sc have been generally too slow to fix some of the underlying issues (clouds, engineering etc). Let’s hope they act on things more quickly in the future.

Reality is it’s flawed, to many people here can’t see past their own narratives. unlike games like Starcraft where you’re matched with an even set of pieces to choose from and you get ranked and compete based on skill of using those pieces alone, Our clans aren’t static nor is our troop set. Regardless of where we place the randomness of the ever changing level of players in each clan will mean one cwl you could be even matched, and in the same league the next round you could be OP, or totally outmatched as what each clan shows up with has no bearing on matching and the dynamic changes in each clan exasperate the gaps.

I have 6 12s now, last cwl I had 3, next I could have 2. (And the same goes for any clan). So even if this cwl is a fair match it has no bearing on the next, league doesn’t matter as every clan can change its players between leagues without moving around, and without an even playing field it’s not a contest of skill but a game of chance.


they should pick a th level and let you pick 15 people each round to compete at that th level, maybe each cwl switch it up and then you can take the prizes from the cwl to upgrade your real base.

so one month it’s th10s and regardless of where you are with your home base everyone competes as a maxed 10, next months 7s, or 12s. That would be way more fun, competitive, and bring a really cool new element to the game.

as a 12 I’d have a blast going back to th7 for a week of competitions vs other 7s as I’m sure lower ths would love to have a taste of what’s coming for them

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Originally Posted by Tvsever

Reality is it’s flawed, to many people here can’t see past their own narratives. unlike games like Starcraft where you’re matched with an even set of pieces to choose from and you get ranked and compete based on skills alone, Our clans aren’t static nor is our troop set. Regardless of where we place the randomness of the ever changing level of players in each clan will mean one cwl you could be even matched, and in the same league the next round you could be OP, or totally outmatched as what each clan shows up with has no bearing on matching and the dynamic changes in each clan exasperate the gaps.

I have 6 12s now, last cwl I had 3, next I could have 2. (And the same goes for any clan). So even if this cwl is a fair match it has no bearing on the next, league doesn’t matter as every clan can change its players between leagues without moving around, and without an even playing field it’s not a contest of skill but a game of chance.

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you discredited your post as soon as you mentioned the word “matched”. You are, however, correct about the possible transient nature of each clan’s composition but how do you think the leagues should work? Do you have a better way of ensuring an “even playing field”.

There is no way that starcraft should be used in anyway to draw parallels between it and clash. They are both totally different games.

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Originally Posted by Kannukanhashubhang

May I know which league are you in? And there is no matchmaking in CWL.

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We started in Gold 1 and we've been promoted to Crystal 3 and stayed there after last CWL. The problem is that our little TH (6,7,8,9) can't even get 1 star againt TH10,11 or 12... so no rewards for them

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Originally Posted by Sqwook

you discredited your post as soon as you mentioned the word “matched”. You are, however, correct about the possible transient nature of each clan’s composition but how do you think the leagues should work? Do you have a better way of ensuring an “even playing field”.

There is no way that starcraft should be used in anyway to draw parallels between it and clash. They are both totally different games.

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Disagree entirely don’t be so quick to be dismissive, step out of your narrative and reread what I wrote. I’m not going to wax semantics on if matched is the correct term, I believe you’re self aware enough to understand the intent behind my usage of the word. Different games, same principle when it comes to a goal to have skill based ranking off player performance.

I also addressed your question. I do apologize I hit submit to quick before I typed out my entire train of thought. It is after 2:30am for me ��