The Problem is not the Loot System, it's the Match System.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

You are not explaining this adequately. You said that it would match based on trophies and then net worth...well if there are many targets with the same number of trophies as you, how are these low net worth targets going to pop up? Also it's not that the targets are a threat, it's that the fact they would be there and all but invisible, would be very frustrating to the people who leveled their bases properly.

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Ok, I see what you mean by not being targetted and, other than revenges, not much could be done about it. I agree with you here, I was just addressing your climbing to the top arguement.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The loot penalty keeps TH10s fairly in check. TH8s can only lose 50k more now than before to a TH10. TH9s are at a larger disadvantage, sure, but they can also hit TH8s for more. The system was so completely unfair for TH10s for the longest time, now it isn't. It's not really unreasonable that TH10s can pound on TH9s. Also TH9s always have the option to level up their TH if they feel it is unfair. The fact that they'd rather whine as opposed to doing that and getting this supposed enormous advantage, kind of indicates that advantage isn't so great.

I don't really see how sub 200 farming applies here.

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I don't have anything against the new loot system and I actually prefer it. But with this idea of match ups based on base worth, it would actually help TH10s to some extent because it'd match them up with similarly levelled bases allowing them to steal the 400k from other TH10s or slightly less from strong TH9s.

High levelled players stealing from low levelled new players/inactives would be matched up with people trying to do the same thing instead.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

Yeah I missed the walls thing. Forgive me.

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All good, thank you for apologizing.

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

High levelled players stealing from low levelled new players/inactives would be matched up with people trying to do the same thing instead.

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Stealing from inactives is not a problem.

The loot penalty deals with stealing from low leveled ones. I'd quit playing this game if all of my matches were well developed TH10s, as it simply would not be possible for me to raid those and make much of a profit. I like that the option is there for the somewhat rare case I can nab two storages with my BAM army, but it is far from the norm. BAM can't stand up to xbows and multi target infernos.

Are we forgetting the purpose of league bonuses?

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Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Most people's solution is simply to bring more loot into the CoC economy with more collectors or higher collector levels at TH10. Since these would be at TH10 I don't see how viable this option is in bringing more loot to LOWER TH's since it's pretty hard to steal loot from TH10 with their defences and with the new inferno towers.

The new loot system is better than the old because it allows more loot to circulate from player-to-player due to the higher caps. True, it sucks getting raided for more gold than we have been used to but you can raid more yourself. Everyone has been complaining that they are getting destroyed and losing 300k gold a raid etc etc as if they're the only ones it happens to. As someone currently upgrading to TH9 with full storages of gold and elixir and DE for the TH9 upgrades, I can relate. However, they can have the same 300k raids as well. I do like the concept of increasing league bonuses because, like the collector option, it brings more loot into the game but instead to every Player??????Not EVERY player.Every player in a League.So basically...No.

I feel that it is the matchmaking system not the loot system that is the main problem. I feel that it should be both trophy level and another factor that determines a matchup.
Options for this other factor could be:

Level----Finally brings a purpose to it other than the lv 50 and 75 decorations.
Base net worth----The accumulative amount of gold and/or elixir and/or DE that has been spent on your base (excludes walls)
Attacks/defenses won----If someone has a high win/def count they will be paired with someone similar (can only be one of the two because farmers have low defense counts and trophy pushers high attk counts)
Current amount of Loot----You should be allowed to steal an equal amount of loot from an opponent that they can from you. Obviously you can dump it on an upgrade before a veng but that's the whole reason for a revenge-gotta be quick to retaliate.

I only want to offer ideas that can help improve this wonderful game and also please every player. Please give constructive and mature feedback as well as your own ideas about the MATCHMAKING system not the loot system. Thank you.

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Look at what I wrote in the quote

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Originally Posted by Sparkylmk

Look at what I wrote in the quote

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The majority of players can get in a league... 200 trophies isn't that hard and if it is you're obviously a new player. This issue addresses people that have been playing for longer than a week but I see your concern for the newer players. Yes, not EVERY SINGLE player will be in a league but I think we can ignore the small fraction under 200.

Where can I get some clean what up in this joint?

Having the people you attack based on the level, and amount of money out into base is terrible. Levels mean nothing, but the amount of troops you donate and the upgrades. There are tons of th9s and 10s with levels under 50. Also with the gold put into base, noobs would get the bases with the easy loot while farmers get harder bases. how is that fair. The more you oot,, the harder it is to attack. With the loot bonus gone, there is no need to change the matchmaking system.

I just post another feature request for improving the current match play system. Please see my idea below.

Indeed, if the match play system becomes more fair, player won't afraid to save their resources into the storage and being attacked by higher town hall level player. Today, the situation of no good Loot could be found easily. Certain reasons should come with players not willing be raided by high level town hall player, therefore they spent all resources as many as they could when they are going to offline.

Multi-player Match System Change Request

Change the current match play system by a new indicator, NOT the TROPHY NUMBER.

The new indicator like a "Combat-Score". The "Combat-Score" should calculated by an overall defensive and offensive capability the village had. The Score will be raised when village's defensive buildings had been upgraded, when troops had been level up, when new spell had been unlock, when hero level up and so forth.

Then the match play will base on this new indicator. This avoids the today's situation that strong high level town hall could attack a low level town hall player, if they in the same trophy range. Another point, it makes player could have their goal to win the battle and to win the trophy. Trophy becomes a true reputation of a player, not like today players try to lose battles on purpose to maintain their trophy range, because they would like to find a easy base to raid the resources.

With the new match play system or more fair match play system, player could make their own strategy to upgrade their defensive buildings and their offensive capability, makes it more strategic. Supercell could make more enhancements based on this new match system simply because it is a fair battle system. For example: create different virtual villages at different "Combat-Score" for player to attack. (to challenge) Player won, get award, lose, get penalty. Also could further added, defensive part could also get some resources from the attacker, if attacker lose.

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Originally Posted by slee600

I just post another feature request for improving the current match play system. Please see my idea below.Indeed, if the match play system becomes more fair, player won't afraid to save their resources into the storage and being attacked by higher town hall level player. Today, the situation of no good Loot could be found easily. Certain reasons should come with players not willing be raided by high level town hall player, therefore they spent all resources as many as they could when they are going to offline.Multi-player Match System Change Request

Change the current match play system by a new indicator, NOT the TROPHY NUMBER.The new indicator like a "Combat-Score". The "Combat-Score" should calculated by an overall defensive and offensive capability the village had. The Score will be raised when village's defensive buildings had been upgraded, when troops had been level up, when new spell had been unlock, when hero level up and so forth.Then the match play will base on this new indicator. This avoids the today's situation that strong high level town hall could attack a low level town hall player, if they in the same trophy range. Another point, it makes player could have their goal to win the battle and to win the trophy. Trophy becomes a true reputation of a player, not like today players try to lose battles on purpose to maintain their trophy range, because they would like to find a easy base to raid the resources.With the new match play system or more fair match play system, player could make their own strategy to upgrade their defensive buildings and their offensive capability, makes it more strategic. Supercell could make more enhancements based on this new match system simply because it is a fair battle system. For example: create different virtual villages at different "Combat-Score" for player to attack. (to challenge) Player won, get award, lose, get penalty. Also could further added, defensive part could also get some resources from the attacker, if attacker lose.

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Like farmville?

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Originally Posted by Ipmd

Are we forgetting the purpose of league bonuses?

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Um, unless they quadruple (or more!) the loot bonuses, they're not even worth talking about.