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The bomber tower should have the gear up option that allows it to switch from ground to air. So that it can also attack either air or ground whichever you set. The damage after destroyed (the giant bomb explosion for ground) on air mode should be a giant bomb floating with balloons to the troops.
Apart from the under water Kingdom idea this is the seconds lamest I have seen
not bad of an idea
What then is the "connector item" on the Builder Base? We can gear up a Main Base Archer Tower once the builder base one hits a specific level. Same true for cannon and mortar (like to like mappings). Also note that once a Main Base item is geared up it then takes on some attribute of its Builder Base like item.
So what on the Builder Base is capable of going to either ground or air for the Main Base Bomb Tower to mimic?
Actually, the very idea that a bomber cannot hit a flying troop is absurd in my opinion. They can do ranged shots in the builder base and in bomb tower against ground opponents but cannot strike a flying enemy when on top of a tower.
Exactly it's on a tower but can't hit air troops
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Originally Posted by Maestro666
The Mortar is also a range defense, yet it doesn't reach far enough to hit air troops. Compared to the other towers, both Archers and Wizards uses projectile that can directly hit their targets, while the Bomber has gravity to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaichen
So if the bomber can't hit flying troops from the ground, then it is due to gravity. Presumably same reasoning for bowlers also.Quote:
Originally Posted by IceBird1
But on a bomb tower, the bomber is basically face to face with the flying troops,yet he is a sitting duck against air attacks.My question is why did they put the little guy on top of a high tower if they did not want him taking on air troops? It could very well have been something else other than a tower. They could have made it a small platform like the geared up AT.
The important point here is that bomber can't hit the air troops right in front of him on top of the tower.
I guess SuperCell could have gone with a different approach like a barricade or something. But the tower could contribute to its radius and have it so the Bomber is not sitting directly on the giant bomb after the tower is destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro666
Soo it's either they gear up or they change the platform
how about attach a ballon in bombs while in air mode so it could reasonably hit flying enemies?
see that blue baloon defense on BB, it got explosives attached to a baloon. or the skeletons while in air mode
That's a good idea-haven't thought about that before.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjalvl999
Which is my point
Bomb Tower was literally invented to try to help stop spam ground attacks; giving it air capabilities would be counterintuitive.
Also, Bomb Tower falls far down in the chain of defenses that would see a Gear Up option next. I would suspect either Wizard Tower or Air Defense to receive a Gear Up long before Bomb Tower.
But then why make like that?
Then they picked the wrong design for the building and the troop for stopping land troops,I think because this is a great irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyIrishman
The troop manning the defense is called a bomber and dressed like a pilot-
aviator hat-check
goggles-check
gloves-check
Ability to attack air troops when sitting on a high tower- Error 404 not found
Using that same logic then, you believe that Loons in the CC should be able to defend from air troops, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro666
That isn't possible we all know that. But looking at maestro666s post you said it correctly he is dressed like a pilot. But not like these modern pilots like war combat pilots. So how wouldn't he hit flying troops when those fought in war.
In WWII, and even today, there are Bombers and there are Fighter aircraft. Both are manned by someone "dressed as pilots". Bombers are ususlly escorted by fighters. One is designed to carry a heavy payload and drop weapons from the belly. The other is designed to be fast, manurverable and capable of air to air combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaichen
Now we all know that a Loon flies over a target and drops bombs on that target. That includes Bomb Towers. They target them just like any other structures. So in fact Loons fly at a higher altitude than the tower itself. This has been true for the entire history of warfare, all ground based antiaircraft, even when atop a tower, must shoot upward.
So you accept that a Loon flying at the same altitude as another Loon cannot "bomb" each other, yet a bomber below that loon should be able to?
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In the entire history of warfare, there has always been an advantage to higher ground. The call was always "run to the hills", not "run to the valley". High ground allows for sight advantage, and range advantage (gravity works with you). So mideval castles had walls and towers to allow them to see farther, shoot farther, and yes, drop things on invading troops like hot oil, or rocks. They were not built that high to defend against the then nonexistent aircraft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro666
I was waiting for someone to bring up the loon argument.I don't think that loons should be able to attack other air troops. Here is my explanation-Quote:
Originally Posted by rowman
The skeletons in the loon are said to be promoted wallbreakers. The wallbreakers themselves don't do anything with the bomb but just carry it around.
The bombers are different troops and can throw that stuff to buildings and walls,not just dropping it on to the ground.
But the skeletons in the balloon can only drop the bombs down to the building/troops underneath the loon. They can't throw that bombs at the nearby buildings like the bombers do.
If they could do that, then they don't need to be right on top of a building they intend to attack. But it isn't. They must reposition the loon after each attack, although the bombs cause splash damage and thus may take out nearby buildings.
Bombers are not simple skeletons.
They can lob these bombs with the range of an archer. The troop info has a picture of the bomber juggling bombs.
Do we have a bomb tower in the builder base?
The point that loons fly higher than the tower and thus cannot be targeted by the bomber makes sense.I did not consider that earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowman
Now I understand.
And the high ground explanation seems good enough.
No-so a gearup may not be possible since the master builder does them only on the defenses which are also present in builder base for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clasher PrEm
First, let us agree that the game is not bounded by real world rules and logic. They can, and do, invent any rule they so desire. They could indeed have Bomber Towers target air troops, or even archers targeting underground Miners, if that is what they so desire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro666
But, for this particular discussion, it has been focused upon real world rationales, so I am willing to stay that course. For any object hurled into the air, it follows a parabolic arc, regardless of mass, where the downward force is 9.81 meters per second squared (Newton). Since it is a function of time (per second), initial velocity matters. So yes people can and do juggle bowling balls or lob them down the lane (overcome 1 second of force), but they do not produce the initial velocity of an arrow upon release can, so they cannot hurl that same bowling ball 20 meters over their own heads.
aerial projectiles.
bomb tower magically changes projectiles to air bombs instead of bombs
So we need the gear up
No, not necessarily. They can simply decide to allow the Bomb Tower to be set to either air or ground mode They could even allow it to defend against both at the same time (like an Infeno Tower).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaichen
That said, just because they can do it does not mean they will do it. All you can do is wait and see.
But wouldn't switching modes require some kind of upgrade?
Not necessarily. SC can change the BT to something like rowman said in the above post.It's their product and they have every right to modify it or even get rid of it altogether(I don't think that will ever happen of course)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaichen
And regarding the upgrade,they can just make it switch modes without it being upgraded in a future update.It's fully within their power to retcon that.
But if they do introduce the new feature you want,they may set a certain minimum level for that.
As of now,the possibility of master builder being involved in this is low as there is no BT in builder base-the normal builder would suffice for the idea if it simply requires a minimum level for the tower.
But then they can use the air bombs as a mimic
So... it that just more air bombs?
This is the greatest thread I’ve ever read in here.
It's not just more airbombs.. It's about making the bomber tower have the ability to attack air troops