Clash of Clans - Announcing Clan War Leagues - October Update!

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Originally Posted by Anarchos

Cwl sounds awesome initially. However, upon reading all the FAQs, and listening to arguments for and against, I feel like SC has really botched this cool new aspect of clash. Only allowing 15 clan members to war during an 8 day period every month is a pretty poor way for them to implement the leagues.

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It's easy to criticise, but much harder to come up with a viable and better alternative. I can't for this part.

It obviously (to me at least) has to be fixed size wars. Otherwise it would be pretty well impossible to rank all clans in one set of tiers and the league idea becomes somewhat meaningless.

And if you are going to have fixed sizes, then it makes sense to use the current most common war size. Which is what they have done.

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essentially once you sign up, if you take anyone other than your highest weighted 15 bases to each war you’re putting yourself at an extreme disadvantage due to the fact your opponents are matched at the start. They take their highest 15, you don’t? That’s asking for a loss.

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If your clan is serious about trying to get promoted every season, yes you might need to do this, although even then it will be the 15 strongest available.

But if you are a little less serious, or if after several wars it is obvious you are not going to be in the promotion or relegation spots, you might well bring in some of your weaker members just to get them a bigger share of the medals.

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not letting potentially 35 clan members war for 8 days a month while they’re sitting out (again if they’re not the highest 15 it’s not wise for them to war) means TH9s, TH10s, and maybe even some TH11s will grow bored not being allowed to war each month.

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It is only one week a month, and most have already got used to the idea of frequently taking a week out to upgrade heroes - which they could of course do during CWL week.

But here I agree, they could have allowed members not on the roster to have a separate "normal" clan war at the same time. Although given the way rewards will be distributed, most clans are likely to put everybody in the roster after the first CWL anyhow.

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just seems like a very divisive way to implement such a cool feature that’s been asked for, since the dawn of clan wars. 2 big fat thumbs down for the developers on this one.

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Only divisive if you let it be. Good clans (in the sense of well knit, well run, not necessarily strong) won't find it so.

But yes, there are a lot of clans where it could be divisive - probably a lot of the same clans that want to restrict Clan Games rewards.

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Originally Posted by Ajax

It's easy to criticise, but much harder to come up with a viable and better alternative. I can't for this part.

It obviously (to me at least) has to be fixed size wars. Otherwise it would be pretty well impossible to rank all clans in one set of tiers and the league idea becomes somewhat meaningless.

And if you are going to have fixed sizes, then it makes sense to use the current most common war size. Which is what they have done.



If your clan is serious about trying to get promoted every season, yes you might need to do this, although even then it will be the 15 strongest available.

But if you are a little less serious, or if after several wars it is obvious you are not going to be in the promotion or relegation spots, you might well bring in some of your weaker members just to get them a bigger share of the medals.



It is only one week a month, and most have already got used to the idea of frequently taking a week out to upgrade heroes - which they could of course do during CWL week.

But here I agree, they could have allowed members not on the roster to have a separate "normal" clan war at the same time. Although given the way rewards will be distributed, most clans are likely to put everybody in the roster after the first CWL anyhow.



Only divisive if you let it be. Good clans (in the sense of well knit, well run, not necessarily strong) won't find it so.

But yes, there are a lot of clans where it could be divisive - probably a lot of the same clans that want to restrict Clan Games rewards.

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Do the players in the wars get a bigger share of the medals than others in the roster?

Leader to clan mates:

"Hello Chiefs, it's that time of the month. I will pick 15 of you, the rest of you can't war for the entire week. Take a vacation, but please don't leave clan."

Oh the joys of being a Leader just got easier.

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Originally Posted by iBork

Leader to clan mates:

"Hello Chiefs, it's that time of the month. I will pick 15 of you, the rest of you can't war for the entire week. Take a vacation, but please don't leave clan."

Oh the joys of being a Leader just got easier.

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I was hoping to be able to add ....please don’t leave the clan because you are going to get just as many medals as the 15 players in the wars, so stay and cheer us on, you will be better rewarded here than if you go to another clan.

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Originally Posted by 2222

I was hoping to be able to add ....please don’t leave the clan because you are going to get just as many medals as the 15 players in the wars, so stay and cheer us on, you will be better rewarded here than if you go to another clan.

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I get to say: “Sorry guys, you know that update that has been teased for months? We arnt going to participate because we are competing for the total war wins leader board”

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Originally Posted by 2222

I was hoping to be able to add ....please don’t leave the clan because you are going to get just as many medals as the 15 players in the wars, so stay and cheer us on, you will be better rewarded here than if you go to another clan.

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Maybe rewards will be good for all, maybe not. And that's WHEN you win the CWL. So for a week, every month, the majority of the clan gets to not war and you may be just wasting your troops and time each month for nothing anyway. But that's not the point. We are a war clan. This is why we play the game. So what's with this forcing the majority of clans members not participate in the game for an entire week every month?

In SC's fashion, they take a great idea and screw it all up. Why can't the strong guys participate in CWL each month, yet allow all to continue playing Clan Wars, yes, including those 15 guys that went to participate in CWL? Clan Wars and CWL should not interfere with each other. CWL is a competition between clans. You send your best to go "compete", there is no reason to mix up Clan Wars and CWL, they are two separate competitions.

splitting of big clan is good for cwl

sure they've data of how many clan active

it means more contestants

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Originally Posted by iBork

Maybe rewards will be good for all, maybe not. And that's WHEN you win the CWL. So for a week, every month, the majority of the clan gets to not war and you may be just wasting your troops and time each month for nothing anyway. But that's not the point. We are a war clan. This is why we play the game. So what's with this forcing the majority of clans members not participate in the game for an entire week every month?

In SC's fashion, they take a great idea and screw it all up. Why can't the strong guys participate in CWL each month, yet allow all to continue playing Clan Wars, yes, including those 15 guys that went to participate in CWL? Clan Wars and CWL should not interfere with each other. CWL is a competition between clans. You send your best to go "compete", there is no reason to mix up Clan Wars and CWL, they are two separate competitions.

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I think it would be very complex to allow people to participate in clan wars and CWL at the same time.

When SC first talked about the top 15 as seeding I was first expecting CWL to be a fixed 15 person roster, but it looks to me that you could create any roster size as long as it's over 15 people?

Now this doesn't make sense to me of how you could rank clans if you have varying sizes of rosters.

The most logical to me would be that the roster is a fixed amount of players and regular clan wars could be fought at the same time but 30-50 man war pools would be fairly empty during CWL week and wars that do happen would be more of the rushed or engineered wars. I suppose SC could raise the cap on the amount of people in each clan to 65-75 but that would have effects to clan games etc. as well.

The thing is that our clan will probably not be participating in CWL, maybe our sister clan.

If only the 15 strongest count then would probably just use the top 15, but then the rest of the clan is out of war for a week. If you don't have any regular war even if your clan doesn't do CWL at all, that would be worse.

To me details seem a bit sketchy so maybe I'm off on my information but this CWL update is making me nervous rather than hyped.

So it will basically be a 15v15 th12 slugfest?

Can each clan divide itself so their top 15 players can participate while the rest continue as normal?

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Originally Posted by gisissi

So it will basically be a 15v15 th12 slugfest?

Can each clan divide itself so their top 15 players can participate while the rest continue as normal?

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Probably at the top. Lower down, doubtful. We only have 3 th12s and one of those doesn't war. Yes you can split into multiple clans. Or you can rotate clan members so everyone gets a chance.