"Greedy Players"

Hi, I am new to this forum and have seen some terms that leave me going "Huh?"

The first is the term "greedy players" I have seen this in several of the add me posts, as in "no greedy players"

What is your personal definition of a greedy player? I work hard at watching the paper for items I need and doing things like harvesting wheat and animals, etc. but sometimes the item I need just won't drop no matter what I do.

I finally asked my hood if any of them had 4 planks they could sell me at up to max price to upgrade my barn [edited to make it clear I offered to BUY the planks, not that I was asking them to GIVE them to me for free]. I had been wheating heavy for a full week and did not get even 1 plank. I got lots of everything else, but no planks. I had watched the paper and just couldn't manage to get any planks. But I was told I should do wheating to get the planks and since I am at a little higher level than most in my hood I shouldn't be asking for anything! But when they ask I am the first to help if I can. In fact the person that finally sold me the planks, I then turned around and sold her 6 paint and 6 hammers for 1 coin per tem item!

Am I being "greedy" by asking for help from my hood? I thought that was the whole point of being in a hood, working together?

Then I was questioned about why I put things up for sell like extra bolts without telling the hood. My response was I used to ask if anyone needed something I had extra of and all I would get was crickets chirping so I stopped asking.

Another thing I do is when I am doing a boat task for the derby I will usually let the hood know what will be on the next boat if I think that I might not be able to fill it totally on my own. I figure I would appreciate a heads up about what they might need so I can start making, and figured it would be nice to give them the heads up, but have been given grief for doing so. Would you appreciate getting a heads up about incoming boats, especially if it is for a derby task?

Maybe I need to find a new hood, but I know these people in real life and one is a really good friend (she isn't the one giving me grief, but then she isn't sticking up for me either).

Opinions and suggestions more than welcome.

BTW I am currently level 55, almost level 56 and have extensively read the Wikia site, and have a binder I use to help me keep track of helpful things like how many of an item might be needed for a crate (info I found on the Wikia site). I am intelligent and a good player.

Hi and welcome to the forum!

I don’t know any hood like that, thankfully!

i have always come across peeps who would give their last jam if someone needed it and to have someone snoop in my shop and tell me what I can and cannot sell?

i would be running

before we were all self sufficient, we used to share “what’s next” on the boat orders so everyone was prepared or making stuff. All part of the fun:smirk:

it may take some trial and error, but I am sure you will find something better

Hello fellow Californian!

You sound like a fantastic player and if I didn't chose to play solo, I'd invite you to my nh!

Sometimes the "greedy player" thing is about the RSS as well as hood member requests.

If you decide to look for a new hood, you can post here: https://forum.supercell.com/forumdis...a-Neighborhood

I would run away from that hood - and re-evaluate why you think of someone as a good friend.

Honestly, run away. Run far away.

When they say “no greedy players” they mean people who will take everything from their shops even if they don’t need it or come into the neighborhood and ask for things and leave.

You clearly haven’t done that and they aren’t being very friendly to you. They are what I would call “greedy.” With lems, Sems and bems I know when I absolutely need to keep mine or when I can give them away to others. But just 4? That’s not asking for much. Especially for someone who is level 55.. I’m 52 and needed 20? Of them for my last barn upgrade, so to only need 20% of what you needed anyway is pretty good and not greedy at all.

My last neighborhood, got on to me about not helping much with ONE derby. I completed 6 320 pt tasks that derby (while going through a really hard time at home in the middle of the derby), and I explained it and got told well it’s not fair, when I helped every single time I could. It made me feel so much worse..

It sounds like it would be their loss if you decided to part ways.

greedy players are those who are “greedy” always asking for stuff and not helping or giving the same back. or raiding an entire shop with full of goodies. some people dont mind if u buy all but some just dont like it.

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Originally Posted by CaWildflowr

...I finally asked my hood for 4 planks to upgrade my barn. I had been wheating heavy for a full week and did not get even 1 plank. I got lots of everything else, but no planks. I had watched the paper and just couldn't manage to get any planks. But I was told I should do wheating to get the planks and since I am at a little higher level than most in my hood I shouldn't be asking for anything! But when they ask I am the first to help if I can.

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First of all, welcome CaWildflowr to the HD subforum. Whoever told you that higher levels shouldn't be asking for anything, specifically expansion items, made the wrong assumption.

All players regardless of their levels will struggle to find expansion items because the game developers designed it that way! Here's what Game Designer Cami posted a few years ago.
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...=1#post6724567

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Originally Posted by CaWildflowr

...Then I was questioned about why I put things up for sell like extra bolts without telling the hood. My response was I used to ask if anyone needed something I had extra of and all I would get was crickets chirping so I stopped asking...

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I bow in shame and must confess that was me a few years ago. When I discovered that my hoodmates had posted bolts for sale in their shops, I would ask why they didn't alert us in chat because we joined a neighborhood so we may help each other out.

I'd like to think I've evolved as a person and a player because I realized how pushy I was so I stopped asking the sellers to announce the sale of rare items a few years ago. I still announce the sale of planks, screws, and duct tapes but don't expect my hoodmates to announce their sale of bolts and wood panels.

Since then, I'm more chillaxed and my neighborhood has been more chillaxed.

Being in a NH with real life friend members is the worst. Some drama in NH could be real drama in real life. You will hesitate kicking them out if they make mistakes or opt-in but not doing derby or not cooperating at all. My advice is leave the NH as soon as possible.

About greedy players, they are people that ask much but give so little. Also a greedy player is someone who raids your shop even though you stated before that take what they need and leave some for other NH friends.

I lead a hood based solely on teamwork and helping each other, both expanding our farms and winning Derbys. We always ask for help and exchange expansion materials when needed, but greedy is a subjective term, so there has to be an element of common sense when it comes to what people ask for, and there’s also has to be some give and take.

Examples of behaviour I would consider greedy:
- constantly requesting high end items in the birdhouse - the hood is not free Tom
- stripping an entire RSS when a hoodies calls a sale, share with your teammates.
- asking for huge quantities of expansion materials - 4 planks is a totally reasonable request for help from your hood
- posting and entire shopping list for a truck task or boats - especially if you look at the farm and nothing is running!
- Any farmer always asking for and accepting help, but not reciprocating when others need help.

In my opinion, good team players don’t do these things.

No offence but that sounds like a mean hood and pretty mean players. My hood has nothing like what you mentioned. We all share things with each other and our group leader is such a kind hearted person that she gives away coins so that we can open up the new machines. We fill the boats collectively and even talk before taking up the derby task so that we all can finsih our tasks as per the hoods requirement.

Tssssssssssk. You need to run from that hood, buddy.

Seriously, they seem mean. This is a game and it should not be upsetting to this extent.

I find the reaction of your hoodies quite normal.

The unwritten rule for most nice, considerate, polite people is: You do not ask for BEMs as a free gift. BEMs are the most precious items in this game and 4 BEMs are a lot of BEMs for hoodies under the level of 55. If you need BEMs, you ask for a trade. If you have spare bolts, you might offer them for a trade. You will find that you get tapes for your bolts easily and planks if you can offer tapes for them.

If you ask in your NH if somebody needs something, they would not dare asking for your bolts. And if you're in the habit of asking for planks or flagging dairy boats, they will be very reluctant to ask even for a juice or cake from you because they don't want to feel beholden to you.

The only thing which if find not quite normal is that they tell you to your face that they think you greedy. Usually, that is what they talk about behind such a person's back.

To clarify I didn't ask for them to GIVE me the planks, I offered to pay max price for the 4 planks, and I hadn't asked for anything from the hood in about a month. So no I don't think that is acceptable behavior. Especially when they are constantly asking for things.

I have also taken the advice to leave that hood, I think it has adversely affected my long time friendship with one of them. I know she hates confrontation and to stand up for me against her son and daughter in law would have been difficult for her

Greebie I never said they called me greedy, I asked what the definition of a greedy player because I had seen the term in a number of "add me as a friend" posts. I hadn't heard it before and I was wondering what it might mean within the context of this game.

And btw, my hoodies frequently asked for expansion items, both for buildings and land, and if I had them to spare I would sell them to them for 1 coin each

I like that comment Wussy...your hood akways sounds so nice!

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Originally Posted by Greebie0

I find the reaction of your hoodies quite normal.

The unwritten rule for most nice, considerate, polite people is: You do not ask for BEMs as a free gift. BEMs are the most precious items in this game and 4 BEMs are a lot of BEMs for hoodies under the level of 55. If you need BEMs, you ask for a trade. If you have spare bolts, you might offer them for a trade. You will find that you get tapes for your bolts easily and planks if you can offer tapes for them.

If you ask in your NH if somebody needs something, they would not dare asking for your bolts. And if you're in the habit of asking for planks or flagging dairy boats, they will be very reluctant to ask even for a juice or cake from you because they don't want to feel beholden to you.

The only thing which if find not quite normal is that they tell you to your face that they think you greedy. Usually, that is what they talk about behind such a person's back.

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No, there is no such unwritten rule. If that is a rule in your neighbourhood, then that is what you all agree to. Nice, considerate, polite people do not have such a rule. I have been in three hoods thus far, and none have had such a thing. When someone asks in my hood for any expansion item, and I have extra, I give them away for one coin. It is not greedy to ask someone for something, be it boat helps or expansion items or in real life. Nice, considerate, and polite people like helping each other without having to get something equal in return.

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Originally Posted by VulcanforHayDay

No, there is no such unwritten rule. If that is a rule in your neighbourhood, then that is what you all agree to. Nice, considerate, polite people do not have such a rule. I have been in three hoods thus far, and none have had such a thing. When someone asks in my hood for any expansion item, and I have extra, I give them away for one coin. It is not greedy to ask someone for something, be it boat helps or expansion items or in real life. Nice, considerate, and polite people like helping each other without having to get something equal in return.

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I agree with this.

if we have, we give. Not everyone finds EMs precious... some value different things, but in the end you can just get more or make more. Even if a hoodie needs brown sugar in a boat I give what I can and put more on.

Gotta have good flow in a hood XD

Run, don't walk, to another hood. Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by CaWildflowr

Hi, I am new to this forum and have seen some terms that leave me going "Huh?"

The first is the term "greedy players" I have seen this in several of the add me posts, as in "no greedy players"

What is your personal definition of a greedy player? I work hard at watching the paper for items I need and doing things like harvesting wheat and animals, etc. but sometimes the item I need just won't drop no matter what I do.

I finally asked my hood if any of them had 4 planks they could sell me at up to max price to upgrade my barn [edited to make it clear I offered to BUY the planks, not that I was asking them to GIVE them to me for free]. I had been wheating heavy for a full week and did not get even 1 plank. I got lots of everything else, but no planks. I had watched the paper and just couldn't manage to get any planks. But I was told I should do wheating to get the planks and since I am at a little higher level than most in my hood I shouldn't be asking for anything! But when they ask I am the first to help if I can. In fact the person that finally sold me the planks, I then turned around and sold her 6 paint and 6 hammers for 1 coin per tem item!

Am I being "greedy" by asking for help from my hood? I thought that was the whole point of being in a hood, working together?

Then I was questioned about why I put things up for sell like extra bolts without telling the hood. My response was I used to ask if anyone needed something I had extra of and all I would get was crickets chirping so I stopped asking.

Another thing I do is when I am doing a boat task for the derby I will usually let the hood know what will be on the next boat if I think that I might not be able to fill it totally on my own. I figure I would appreciate a heads up about what they might need so I can start making, and figured it would be nice to give them the heads up, but have been given grief for doing so. Would you appreciate getting a heads up about incoming boats, especially if it is for a derby task?

Maybe I need to find a new hood, but I know these people in real life and one is a really good friend (she isn't the one giving me grief, but then she isn't sticking up for me either).

Opinions and suggestions more than welcome.

BTW I am currently level 55, almost level 56 and have extensively read the Wikia site, and have a binder I use to help me keep track of helpful things like how many of an item might be needed for a crate (info I found on the Wikia site). I am intelligent and a good player.

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I would also be looking for a new NH, one that suits your playing style better. Best wishes.

New Hood started... name: Fun 'N Games tag:P0GJLCVY (that is a zero, not the letter “o”)
Have started a Discord server for the hood to make communication easier.

Thanks to all for your comments

Hello CaWildflower, I really do not understand what the dilemma is. In my hood we have always felt it’s a great thing to share with each other. We let people know what we need and shop for each other not just for ourselves. If there’s a particular difficult boat coming up and it isn’t needed for a derby task, sometimes we let it go, other times we let people know what’s on it to help if they can. This especially applies to bread because no one has room to store 100 loaves of bread. You would be more than welcome to join us if you wish #28G9UYQ8. We are strict on derby though, if you opt in all tasks must be completed unless there was a major emergency at home, in which case just let us know. If you choose to stay in your hood, I hope that your joy of the game and your neighbourhood experience improves.

I started a new hood, one where I could set the tone rather than stay in one that just didn’t fit my playing style and my personality

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Originally Posted by CaWildflowr

I started a new hood, one where I could set the tone rather than stay in one that just didn’t fit my playing style and my personality

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If you create a second farm like some of us have done, I hope you'll get a plank farm to complement your current bolt farm. :)

I have started a 2nd Farm, not clear yet what is going to be common/rare yet. I think would be great if they do end up complimenting each other

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Originally Posted by CaWildflowr

I have started a 2nd Farm, not clear yet what is going to be common/rare yet. I think would be great if they do end up complimenting each other

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IIRC, it took me several weeks of upgrading the barn of my Symbiote Farm to realize that I have a bolt farm because they were plentiful while duct tapes were rare which is the opposite of my Original Farm. :)

70% of neighborhoods are bad, dramatic, insane, selfish and stressful where power goes into peoples heads and they seem to think losing a derby will kill them in real life... (Just read some posts from the NH forum it's cringeworthy).

and 30% are good... They are hard to find but they do exist and in it are mostly people who play for fun and have goals here and there and they want to advance and make their farm pretty but it will not come as a priority in life...

the more members, the more drama