They Need To Fix Friendly Challenging

Friendly Challenging needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL. I am not the biggest friendly challenger. I like it at times, but other than that it's more a nuisance.

-People should be able to attack ANYONE's base in their clan. You should simply be able to click on anyone's profile, click FC, and up pops the bases in his village edit saves. You should be able to put any CC Troops you would like in his CC. And then you can attack that base thousands of times if you would like without annoying people to constantly put up their bases. It's cumbersome and its a turnoff for people who live to FC.

How many times have you had someone new join your clan, and then they leave because theres not 40 people on just dying to put up their base for them? Now this person for leaving the clan we could argue is a simple mind for not giving the clan a chance. But this likely wouldn't happen if he can mindlessly friendly challenge until his fingers fall off.

And then the results also don't need to clog the chat. The person could share the replay if he would like.

Make this feature more accessible, less inconvenient, and also this gives people the chance to attack bases with the proper CC troops, instead of them attacking each other with each having bowlers in their castles, which is also not a real war time feel.

so...... They can't screenshot the replays of their friendly challenges or bases from the war map? If its someone from opponent clan then thats spying and shame on you. But who cares if someone steals your base and vanishes into thin air? People steal bases all the time.

This is more for the better good of your longtime clan mates. Im not just singling out new sketchy members, although this would help keep people from hopping I would think.

I actually like this.

This is a really good idea, imo

This isn't a bad idea. Well as long as you still can't hit freshly made bases (past 24 hours)

Sorry, I don't think this is a good idea because Friendly Challenge has a lot to do with ACTIVITY & activity is one key element which separates a good clan with a not so good one & so on...

As per the situation OP shared, the new player rightfully left after odd 40 mins as clearly he understood that the clan is either not that active and/or is at his inconvenient time zone.

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Originally Posted by Sammydict

Sorry, I don't think this is a good idea because Friendly Challenge has a lot to do with ACTIVITY & activity is one key element which separates a good clan with a not so good one & so on...

As per the situation OP shared, the new player rightfully left after odd 40 mins as clearly he understood that the clan is either not that active or is at his inconvenient time zone.

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You truly don't think this is a good idea? Like, deep down in the bottom of the soul, you think this option is a bad idea?

Inconvenient time zone? Sure, let's discourage having an international clan. And I disagree with your "Activity" assessment. My clan is not overly active in between wars when we're upgrading heroes or simply burnt out a bit. But come war time, my clan is ELECTRIC. So the option for more active players between wars or international players to not have to beg people to put up their bases is a bad idea?

Sad that this is coming from a "Game Specialist"

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Originally Posted by JBRM

You truly don't think this is a good idea? Like, deep down in the bottom of the soul, you think this option is a bad idea?

Inconvenient time zone? Sure, let's discourage having an international clan. And I disagree with your "Activity" assessment. My clan is not overly active in between wars when we're upgrading heroes or simply burnt out a bit. But come war time, my clan is ELECTRIC. So the option for more active players between wars or international players to not have to beg people to put up their bases is a bad idea?

Sad that this is coming from a "Game Specialist"

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So just because I differed from your opinion (in fact constructively), you found it fair to diss me and my badge. Superb job! :thumbsup:

Anyways, to further elaborate you self admitted that your clan is mostly active during War time & not overly active outside of war time. Honestly, that's good enough a reason for a player to not stay in a clan after s\he has just checked in but not good enough a reason to alter the current structure of Friendly challenges.

And time zone has less to do with international clans. Being in international is niche, risky choice one needs to make as chances of it paying off or putting you off is equally the same.

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Originally Posted by AntiSocial321

So people can just join and invade my privacy , steal my base desgin and leave the clan ....I think I speak for alot when I say that's a big no no.

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Well then they can add an option allowing you to make some or all your bases private. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Sammydict

So just because I differed from your opinion (in fact constructively), you found it fair to diss me and my badge. Superb job! :thumbsup:

Anyways, to further elaborate you self admitted that your clan is mostly active during War time & not overly active outside of war time. Honestly, that's good enough a reason for a player to not stay in a clan after s\he has just checked in but not good enough a reason to alter the current structure of Friendly challenges.

And time zone has less to do with international clans. Being in international is niche, risky choice one needs to make as chances of it paying off or putting you off is equally the same.

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Even if it isn’t a good reason to implement this, it still should be implemented. Who exactly is this change hurting? What exactly is negative about it? It’s good for a good amount of players. I’d argue most players would either like this or feel neutral about it.

Yeah, it would be helpful. From a players perspective, there is zero legitimate reason not do this.

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Originally Posted by Sammydict

So just because I differed from your opinion (in fact constructively), you found it fair to diss me and my badge. Superb job! :thumbsup:

Anyways, to further elaborate you self admitted that your clan is mostly active during War time & not overly active outside of war time. Honestly, that's good enough a reason for a player to not stay in a clan after s\he has just checked in but not good enough a reason to alter the current structure of Friendly challenges.

And time zone has less to do with international clans. Being in international is niche, risky choice one needs to make as chances of it paying off or putting you off is equally the same.

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Time zone has less do to with International clans? I don't get that. Look, we're a USA clan. But I've recruited a few players from Europe. They're great guys. It's nice to have some different cultures in the clan. That is whats special about the game. I feel bad when they're 6 hours ahead and we're sleeping, vice versa. This seems like an extremely easy option to implement with tremendous upside. Nobody wants to stay online just to keep putting their base up so someone can attack it 1000 times.

Ive been around the block. This was well thought out before it was posted. I just take issue with anyone saying this is a bad idea. The option to sign online at any time of the day. Could be morning, or after a late night out, or some other time when people are sleeping and working, especially wanting to FC with someone of your same town hall. Thats the other thing, not only do other people have to be online so you can friendly challenge, you have to get lucky that they're the same town hall as you to really enjoy.

This game needs more accessibility. This provides action whenever you want. And it's private, you can do it by yourself, and you don't have to clog up the chat, especially during war time when people are discussing strategy.

No way this is a bad idea. SORRY

This is a place where people can express their opinion on an idea, you don't have to be rude at SammyDict or anyone who opposes your idea here.

Personally, I don't think this idea's too bad but I'm worried about war hoppers hitting every base in the Clan about 20 times. Ahh, what a practice it might be. With a little of improvements to this idea and it'll be okay.

While I think this is a nice feature to have, I'm guessing SC isn't hot about anything that encourages "playing by yourself". Just like the goblin map which has been ignored for ages.

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Originally Posted by Clash12344321

This is a place where people can express their opinion on an idea, you don't have to be rude at SammyDict or anyone who opposes your idea here.

Personally, I don't think this idea's too bad but I'm worried about war hoppers hitting every base in the Clan about 20 times. Ahh, what a practice it might be. With a little of improvements to this idea and it'll be okay.

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you're right... you're right. I don't mean to be rude. Just passionate. And of course the devs would need to plan out the feature. Maybe only elders and up can enjoy the feature to give the clan time to Voirdear the new member...

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Originally Posted by Bkt26

While I think this is a nice feature to have, I'm guessing SC isn't hot about anything that encourages "playing by yourself". Just like the goblin map which has been ignored for ages.

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I wouldn't consider this all about playing by yourself, which by the way, a lot more people do that than you think. I think there are truly people out there who want to get better, maybe don't have a ridiculously active clan to post 4700 friendly challenges, maybe a bit nervous to practice in front of people, or combination of all.

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Originally Posted by GodlyMortal

Well then they can add an option allowing you to make some or all your bases private. Problem solved.

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This would be a perfect compromise. Implement the OP’s solution and allow for users to turn the feature off if they want to. Everyone will be happy

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Originally Posted by GodlyMortal

Even if it isn’t a good reason to implement this, it still should be implemented. Who exactly is this change hurting? What exactly is negative about it? It’s good for a good amount of players. I’d argue most players would either like this or feel neutral about it.

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This isn't about hurting someone. But yes there's a negativity about this. It'll encourage players to not be worried about finding a fitting clan. For ex: A player will simply keep jumping from clan to clan wrecking bases without consequences. It'll be a bad practice IMO. Imagine having 100 notifications of your base being destroyed by XYZ players. Just sends a feel of negativity.

Also, it'll allow players to have 1vs1 experience thus further affecting Builder Base which has been created mainly for a 1v1 experience.

Also, recruiting is an essential aspects that comes with improving communications and to have communication there needs to be activity. It in fact is a good thing in all aspects, real or virtual. This idea further will discourage such practice.

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Originally Posted by JBRM

Time zone has less do to with International clans? I don't get that. Look, we're a USA clan. But I've recruited a few players from Europe. They're great guys. It's nice to have some different cultures in the clan. That is whats special about the game. I feel bad when they're 6 hours ahead and we're sleeping, vice versa. This seems like an extremely easy option to implement with tremendous upside. Nobody wants to stay online just to keep putting their base up so someone can attack it 1000 times.

Ive been around the block. This was well thought out before it was posted. I just take issue with anyone saying this is a bad idea. The option to sign online at any time of the day. Could be morning, or after a late night out, or some other time when people are sleeping and working, especially wanting to FC with someone of your same town hall. Thats the other thing, not only do other people have to be online so you can friendly challenge, you have to get lucky that they're the same town hall as you to really enjoy.

This game needs more accessibility. This provides action whenever you want. And it's private, you can do it by yourself, and you don't have to clog up the chat, especially during war time when people are discussing strategy.

No way this is a bad idea. SORRY

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I never said your idea is a bad one. In fact, I humbly said I don't find it good enough to be implemented and provided reasons too.

The game already has, perhaps, the most accessibility game wise. Size smaller, available for free, easy progress till higher clans, easy to find a fitting clan, do Wars, do friendly. If anything is lacking, it's either in individuals or the clans they have build or chose to be in. Options are always available to change such inconveniences.

Sounds like a great idea. I'm not big on friendly challenges but if I felt like attacking on a whim I'd prob do it more. Toggle switch like someone said would be cool.

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Originally Posted by JBRM

Friendly Challenging needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL. I am not the biggest friendly challenger. I like it at times, but other than that it's more a nuisance.

-People should be able to attack ANYONE's base in their clan. You should simply be able to click on anyone's profile, click FC, and up pops the bases in his village edit saves. You should be able to put any CC Troops you would like in his CC. And then you can attack that base thousands of times if you would like without annoying people to constantly put up their bases. It's cumbersome and its a turnoff for people who live to FC.

How many times have you had someone new join your clan, and then they leave because theres not 40 people on just dying to put up their base for them? Now this person for leaving the clan we could argue is a simple mind for not giving the clan a chance. But this likely wouldn't happen if he can mindlessly friendly challenge until his fingers fall off.

And then the results also don't need to clog the chat. The person could share the replay if he would like.

Make this feature more accessible, less inconvenient, and also this gives people the chance to attack bases with the proper CC troops, instead of them attacking each other with each having bowlers in their castles, which is also not a real war time feel.

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I have played a game very similar to Clash of Clans, where attacking anyone was possible. Even from the global chat. It lead to bullying like you wouldn't belive and was far from "friendly".

SuperCell has done a lot to separate and isolate players. You will never be able to attack somebody you just saw in Global or somebody you just kicked from your clan. The probability of you attacking somebody you know is minimal.

Friendly Challenges are just friendly and you can't expect to play friendly challenges until your fingers fall off. The biggest reason for that is, that there is simply no revenue in that.

I'm sure that there are clans where FC's are plenty, but most of the time, it's multiplayer or war that really brings in the cheddar, as it should be.

/Affront

GEEEEEZ, I knew there was a reason I posted this in General. This section gets no play. Such a shame because its a great idea.

No, your post is better here. It may not get seen by Supercell in general it will get seen by SC here. It doesn't need a lot of replies to be seen by SC. SC does monitor this subforum and many ideas that have been suggested here have been added to the game.

There may be reasons they don't do this that we will never know about. I like it, several others like it. We do not know how much, if any, strain it would put on the servers.

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Originally Posted by JBRM

GEEEEEZ, I knew there was a reason I posted this in General. This section gets no play. Such a shame because its a great idea.

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Thanks for your respectful, down to earth response storm heart :thumbsup:

Like Clan Games, i suggested opening up the NE portion of the map so people can have clanmates attack their base. More to it than this, just letting you know I'm all for the idea. I hate the 24 hour waiting period after a change is made.

You do realize that without the 24 hour cool down someone could copy your base and practice on it before they attack in war? I too hate the cool down but I'd hate that far more. In fact, they should add it to TH8.

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Originally Posted by Buzzman

Like Clan Games, i suggested opening up the NE portion of the map so people can have clanmates attack their base. More to it than this, just letting you know I'm all for the idea. I hate the 24 hour waiting period after a change is made.

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Idea is good, but not for the reason you gave. Not many people leave because of unavailability of friendly challenge. So implementing it for just those people doesn't justify enough. But yes, it would be good if it is implemented with various changes like you can only attack unlocked bases just like FC, you can attack only one main and one war village (both active), if active is locked then next to it like that. All I mean is it would be nice if this is implemented with all changes that would stop people taking unfair advantage of this feature.

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Originally Posted by Sammydict

This isn't about hurting someone. But yes there's a negativity about this. It'll encourage players to not be worried about finding a fitting clan. For ex: A player will simply keep jumping from clan to clan wrecking bases without consequences. It'll be a bad practice IMO. Imagine having 100 notifications of your base being destroyed by XYZ players. Just sends a feel of negativity.

Also, it'll allow players to have 1vs1 experience thus further affecting Builder Base which has been created mainly for a 1v1 experience.

Also, recruiting is an essential aspects that comes with improving communications and to have communication there needs to be activity. It in fact is a good thing in all aspects, real or virtual. This idea further will discourage such practice.

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1. Friendly challenges are the least of someone’s worries when finding a clan, it’s usually not even on the checklist.
2. No one cares when their base gets destroyed in FC and even if they did my suggestion where you could make bases private would solve this
3. BB and HV are totally incomparable. The attacks and strategies are way different.
4. Don’t really see how this will decrease activity. It’s not as if people will magically stop farming, donating, warring, etc

I see where you’re coming from but people just don’t care about FCs that much. Probably because they need to be changed for the better.

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Originally Posted by GodlyMortal

1. Friendly challenges are the least of someone’s worries when finding a clan, it’s usually not even on the checklist.
2. No one cares when their base gets destroyed in FC and even if they did my suggestion where you could make bases private would solve this
3. BB and HV are totally incomparable. The attacks and strategies are way different.
4. Don’t really see how this will decrease activity. It’s not as if people will magically stop farming, donating, warring, etc

I see where you’re coming from but people just don’t care about FCs that much. Probably because they need to be changed for the better.

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I believe the reason FC's are not used as often as they could be relates to a couple of deficiencies:

1) Very few players care one bit about defensive base design so very few post FC's to test out bases.
2) You spend real resources to build an army to FC so you are quite likely building a farming army that can be used in a real attack later. A tailor made army to test defenses is cost prohibitive.
3) Random FC's just for fun do occur but unless you are in a very large active clan, likely not many folks will be available to attack at any given time.

In regards to worrying about people practicing on your base to cheat in wars, easily can be solved by making players with 'elder' title in the clan to be able to do it, or permission request is sent to the player to allow people to FC their bases.

This idea is fantastic. It would be seamless. It definitely would add activity, thats a fact. The majority of clans do not have more than 6-8 members on at a time, if yours does and you're reading this, kudos to you. But in the real world, there usually isn't that many players online at once, then it has to be a peer of the same town hall to get friendly challenges that are meaningful, too many variables.

And sadly, there are players that require that kind of attention. I don't like them but its a reality. There are players that leave clans because the friendly challenges aren't prevalent. So, why not enhance this feature? Like I said, you should be able to attack any base you want in the clan, with permission or elder status to negate spies, and you should have the freedom to do it as much as you want, without bothering people and clogging up the chat. And you should be able to instantly train up troops, at the required cost of course, and put whatever defensive cc troops you want in his castle.

Anybody that doesn't think this is a great feature to implement, I'm truly sorry, you're just not a person. you're from another planet

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Originally Posted by Tosti111

I believe the reason FC's are not used as often as they could be relates to a couple of deficiencies:

1) Very few players care one bit about defensive base design so very few post FC's to test out bases.
2) You spend real resources to build an army to FC so you are quite likely building a farming army that can be used in a real attack later. A tailor made army to test defenses is cost prohibitive.
3) Random FC's just for fun do occur but unless you are in a very large active clan, likely not many folks will be available to attack at any given time.

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I completely agree and think your analysis is spot on.

sounds very interesting idea to me...

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Originally Posted by JBRM

Anybody that doesn't think this is a great feature to implement, I'm truly sorry, you're just not a person. you're from another planet

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Well now, that's getting a little harsh.

In general, if SC has or has not done something, there is probably a good reason behind it. Much of what we do here in the I&FR subforum is speculate SC's reasons, and at times, defend those reasons.

Here is how I typically respond to requests like the OP:

CoC is a social game, and SC wants players to socialize with each other. FC is a social feature. Your idea renders the feature anti-social if I can attack a clanmate's base over-and-over without their involvement. Same goes for being able to attack your own base, which is a very common feature request here. It promotes people living in bubbles by themselves, and I can definitely understand if that goes against SC's overall vision.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPC

Well now, that's getting a little harsh.

In general, if SC has or has not done something, there is probably a good reason behind it. Much of what we do here in the I&FR subforum is speculate SC's reasons, and at times, defend those reasons.

Here is how I typically respond to requests like the OP:

CoC is a social game, and SC wants players to socialize with each other. FC is a social feature. Your idea renders the feature anti-social if I can attack a clanmate's base over-and-over without their involvement. Same goes for being able to attack your own base, which is a very common feature request here. It promotes people living in bubbles by themselves, and I can definitely understand if that goes against SC's overall vision.

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Well, you and I simply disagree. Theres no way it promotes anti-socialism. It promotes ACTIVITY. And then theres the clanmates who are really active that truly wanna try new attacks out without hassling. You're acting like people won't be talking while they're doing it. Sorry, thats just reaching. SC has not done many things that they should've, doesn't mean they're bad people.

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Originally Posted by Affront

I have played a game very similar to Clash of Clans, where attacking anyone was possible. Even from the global chat. It lead to bullying like you wouldn't belive and was far from "friendly".

SuperCell has done a lot to separate and isolate players. You will never be able to attack somebody you just saw in Global or somebody you just kicked from your clan. The probability of you attacking somebody you know is minimal.

Friendly Challenges are just friendly and you can't expect to play friendly challenges until your fingers fall off. The biggest reason for that is, that there is simply no revenue in that.

I'm sure that there are clans where FC's are plenty, but most of the time, it's multiplayer or war that really brings in the cheddar, as it should be.

/Affront

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I don't quite see it the same as you do. As long as it is in-clan only and has the appropriate 24 hr cooldown, I think it would be quite valuable.

As an example, just came out of a war where three opponent Th12's shared the same design and I have seen the same design before. We failed on our attacks on those bases. I would love to build one of them for the team to practice on (obviously 24 hours later and after war closes) so that the clan could practice attacks on that design as much as they want. It would be nice to just build the base and let my teammates attack whenever they like without me even having to be online.

I think it wouldn't take away from war or activity, if anything it may increase both based on improved skillset (willingness to be in war) and more hours online in clan chat as you attempt attacks and post them for review or suggestions.

I can't see any harm in it at any rate.

My thoughts only.

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Originally Posted by GodlyMortal

Well then they can add an option allowing you to make some or all your bases private. Problem solved.

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They could simply resolve it by making it only applicable to your friend's list and clanmates (same as copying bases).