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Hey there.
In builder base versus battles if you tie (draw) nobody wins anything. After all your effort and planning, you got nothing and even waste your precious clock tower boost time. Wouldnt it make more sense if in this case both competitors win instead of not winning at all?
Except the case when both are 0% or else
Another way you can look at it, you both lose and your trophies go down.
Draw is a draw.
‘All your effort and planning’
You mean at best the entire 60seconds you get for scouting and army swaps...
Plus....it also didn’t cost you any loot to attack
Some bonus reward must be awarded for a draw at least 20%
Why must it??Quote:
Originally Posted by wasim9035
You aren’t any worse off in loot after the attack so you aren’t losing out
Nice though it might seem, it mustn't be. It would be wide open to abuse, as 8t would mean that those who drew a few before getting their 3 wins would get more loot than those who just get the three wins straight up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasim9035
Which would tgrow the whole economy of builder base into chaos.
Fair point and would probably see a proliferation of 0% draws 😬Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
The faster win should win.
Any reason you think a draw should be turned into a win?Quote:
Originally Posted by George1971
And even more, any reason why you think it should benefit the spammer over the thinking attack?
Q1. Yes. It is a competition, the better player should win. Defeating that base in 30 seconds is better than in 90seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
Q2. Spammer means something like dropping all barbarians as fast a possible, relying on their raged speed and DPS for the win? If that is too easy, SC should fix the game. Introduce more things like giant bombs and crushers. I don’t think it is. Spammed attacks can work, but I think usually they don’t. All archers from all directions does guarantee a high percentage, good for clan games percentage quests, but usually is just a one star battle. I don’t think the question is valid. One of the early to mid stage winning tactics is dropping one archer at a time, very slow.
I wouldn't mind there being a small percentage of loot awarded in the event of a draw. It's not like it's easy to abuse since it's uncommon to actually draw with your opponent, but when it does happen, there's that huge sense of dissatisfaction when you didn't get anything for your troubles.
Guys its all of 5 min max to weight and I believe you guys are forgeting that there are a sirtain loot amount allowed per day. If this was incorporated ya fair u win but i n the long run that's a star and a full set of loot u could of gotten, so what I'm trying to say is you get less! If that's the way
So that is a no then.Quote:
Originally Posted by George1971
No it isn't. Defeating the base is defeating the base. So long as it is within the three minutes, it is all the same.Quote:
Defeating that base in 30 seconds is better than in 90seconds.
You may feel it is better to do it quicker, but that is your personal feeling, and nothing to do with how the game works. If both get the same score, then they are EQUAL. End of story.
There are quite a lot of attacks on BB which are more or less spam, and quite a lot which aren't. The spammier ones tend ti be the quicker ones.Quote:
Q2. Spammer means something like dropping all barbarians as fast a possible, relying on their raged speed and DPS for the win? If that is too easy, SC should fix the game. Introduce more things like giant bombs and crushers. I don’t think it is. Spammed attacks can work, but I think usually they don’t. All archers from all directions does guarantee a high percentage, good for clan games percentage quests, but usually is just a one star battle. I don’t think the question is valid. One of the early to mid stage winning tactics is dropping one archer at a time, very slow.
i find a draw result is an anticlimax. I would like a tiebreaker. Speed of attack is one very simple and easily understood tie breaker idea. Open to other ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
I know that in the builder base, I actually dislike slow attacks. I finished in one minute, one way or another, and they are dripping archers, or watching a bat take out a storage. Some may think that’s a better player, I prefer my play.
i really like the max giant cannon, how it has eliminated the very slow all witches as a good three star strategy.
Your strategy to win cannot be measured by amount of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveoUk
How about this: in a draw case the reward should multiply by the percentage of destruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
For example in a 100% vs 100% draw both competitors get fully rewarded and in a 30% vs 30% they get 30% of reward each...
While I would like 100%-100% battles to be tie broken, for the sake of simplicity, I recommend continuing to treat anything less as a draw and a de facto loss. 0%-0% should certainly not produce a winner by tiebreak.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeuceCupid
A lot of people find that, particularly Americans. Though not exclusively them.Quote:
Originally Posted by George1971
A lot of others are used to the fact that in most competitive events,draws can happen, and accept that a draw is a draw.
Neither of those are necessarily "right" or "wrong", they are just differences of opinion.
very simple yes, but not IMO reasonable.Quote:
Speed of attack is one very simple and easily understood tie breaker idea.
I'm not particularly interested in there being tiebreakers, so I haven't really got any alternatives to proposeQuote:
Open to other ideas.
Understandable, but that doesn't mean your way is "better". Arguably, those who think out how to take down the specific base, using most of the minute to plan, and then execute a multi-pronged attack are "better". But again, that is a matter of opinion. I don't think there is a truly objective way of saying which attack is better other than by the final outcome.Quote:
I know that in the builder base, I actually dislike slow attacks.
I finished in one minute, one way or another, and they are dripping archers, or watching a bat take out a storage. Some may think that’s a better player, I prefer my play.
I never thought of all witches as particularly slow, though it isn't a strategy I've ever used.Quote:
i really like the max giant cannon, how it has eliminated the very slow all witches as a good three star strategy.