Originally Posted by
dinarevic
Thank u for the great post and time u took to make it Great jobb!!
First of all I wand to say I'm sorry for my bad English before I start on the msg.
Looking at your numbers and what you write, I love that you take up the issue of bases that have little or nothing in the storages. I believe that problem today is in exactly that. It is not about how much loot we gain per raid.
I started playing this game about 2 months ago, I believe, and I'm now TH7 with almost maxing it. What I have seen in trend is that up to TH7 I gained allot by raiding, it was awesome compared to upgrade cost and I realized it will be harder to gain loot at higher lvl for upgrades, and maybe SC have addressed this with this change. They ONLY ADRESS TH9 and 10 in all post and how good it is.
What I believe SC did not think about when they did this is:
1. How many bass at all time have 1m or above at TH6,7,8
2. Do ppl really save up resources at that lvl range?
3. How is the ROI (return of investment) in attacking base?
So looking a bit on those 3 statements.
1/2/3. I believe very few do, more close to none save up, they have no reason for it. At TH7 where I'm right now I never save up. My biggest upgrade and most expensive is my TH that is 2m gold. With old loot system I can save up that amount with few raids at night and take in consideration that I'm going to be raided and calculate how much extra I need to be able in morning or afternoon to do some raids so I can keep my builders working. With the new loot system At my lvl of TH it is impossible because my ROI SUCKS big SOCKS. I need at least 50-100k gold to find decent base to raid, before I needed 10-20 at max and I did not need to use ALL my army and flasks. So bases I find today is with 190k of each at MAX, considering my cost of searching, earnings from gold you can half and considering my army build, earning of elixir is even less. And the time it takes to find things is much longer than before.
Conclusion: It is hard, and time/gold/elixir consuming for that TH lvl range to grow to higher lvl because ppl at that range do not save that amounts of gold in storages, and if they do it is few of them. So I really can not see how the new loot system can benefit middle TH levels. ROI is terrible, not even 2:1 so attacking is no point sometimes.
I was prepared for hard working and time consuming farming at higher levels because it is what end game is for, it is not easy to get best, but it is easy to be mid range.
There is also one other question I want to take up, and that is Why did this change come? They say so the loot can flow easily between players? I have not seen any TH9 and 10 complain about this, why? They have no reason, they have that amount in storages, they need it for upgrades so they see no changes, it is always between 200-400 loot when they raid (statement, have not experience it my self).
It would be nice to see some more replays from TH9 and 10, what experience do they have with the change?
SC also tells us that they are watching the change to see how it will flow and work out and ADJUST (not change) the system.
Looking at the bigger picture, SC recently sold 51% of the company and gave away all the decision to the buyer! they have possibility to say things but as a mayor stock holder u have the last word and big companies only care about ROI like I do in my raiding. The way I see it and I'm just thinking, no hard numbers, They want most money out of the investment and return back as much as possible of investment of 1,5 billion dollars, and how do they do that? Yes one way is to make players spend more Real money, and how do they do It? Yes by make players buy more crystals!! So might this be a way to tell us "buy more crystals, we need to end our FYI with sky numbers and increase value of our company" I do not know, maybe they are telling us that. What I know is they have full right to do so they are company and they need to earn money they have full right of it!!
And why did they erase the LONG post with all the complains, maybe they did not but I can not find it, maybe they do not want new players come to forum and see the longest post full of bulls*** and leave! fully understandable, but why erase it? Why not make an official statement at the end of the post and lock it, leave it be!!! I would have more respect for u than I have now.
I hope this changes for better and I hope playing experience will be as fun as before, I'll stick around and wait, but not to long, sorry but that is the way we consumers think 2.