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I have an idea, and Spiros T told me to post it here.
What if all the Town Hall 11 and 12's only attacked other Town Hall 11 and 12's no matter what league they are in?
The lower leagues are filled with Town Hall 11 and 12's that Town Hall 10's and below do not stand a chance against.
This could prevent rushed players from jumping to these Town Halls and would give Legends league players more opponents and less wait time.
Not bad idea, with more players available the waiting time will be reduced on higher leagues where there is a leak of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
You may want to read the cloud thread on the main forum page. This idea has been suggested there and good reasons for why it would be a problem are discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
there shouldn't be any problems besides the town hall 11 and 12's that are hiding in the lower leagues would be attacked more often. other than that the pro's far out weigh the con's. lower league players won't have to lose every defense to higher town halls in their league, with up to 45 extra troops space plus the extra spell space in the clan castle, not to mention the siege machines and electro dragons. town hall 10's and below cannot compete with 11 and 12's let's be honest. by doing this it would put the higher town halls in a real competition with worthy opponents and would stop players from rushing to town hall 11 and 12 without having the experience to be there. the town hall 10's and below can still attack the 11 and 12's in their leagues as well, but will only be able to be attacked by them through revenge and thats it.
It wouldn't stop people from rushing and needlessly punish those who have already rushed. Plus it would just reward the most active top players and encourage them to share accountsQuote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
I agree. I think it would also make the trophy ladder more towards pay to win than it already is. Skill would no longer matter. It would be who can spend the most money and stay online attacking the longest. We would still be attacking way more than defending but likely on a much larger scale which seems would make clouds worse, not better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Somethingnotalreadypicked
Which is EXACTLY what SC will want. Spend more and stay online more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdome757
no it wouldn't, i get offered 4 to 6 trophy points per attack if i win, but i lose 35 or more if i lose. guess what, im a max town hall 10 in titan league, so why couldnt they lower the amount of trophy points offered by attacking a town hall 12 that is in crystal league? only offer them 2 or 3 per those attacks and more for opponents in a higher league. its not punishing those who are already rushed, it would encourage them to get everything up to par while stopping more players from rushing to these levels. do you realize the amount of town hall 11 and 12's that are damn near max, who are hiding in these lower leagues holding other players back with lower town halls? I hardly ever get offered another town hall 10 to attack, its all max 11 and 12's. this could help people upgrade more effieciently and give lower town halls the time they need to max their bases.
How is a rushed th11 going to improve if everytime they log off a th12 in legends swooped in and 100% them and taking all of their loot? If anything it will just discourage them and get them to quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
Hi all. The long waiting time its not just a legend league problem,something must be done across all leagues.. Before we start going with all the bright ideas about improving the game, adding extra buildings etc.. We must have something done with the waiting time.. This should be the highest priority. Maybe reduce the shild time for thoes who wants to be active and attack more.. This game will die soon if we want be able to fight more often.. Lets try donsome small changes and aee if they work but do it.. Regards... Leo
Excuse me while i die of laughter but that happens to me all the time, im a town hall 10 and im getting 3 starred by max town hall 11 and 12's, so why should that not apply to rushed 11 and 12's? we all get a shield of 16 hrs once attacked so i dont understand your logic. how is it fair that a th10 in titan league can only attack th11 and 12's that are practically maxxed, but a th11 or 12 in champion league or even crystal league gets to attack all the lower town halls in their league?
Because there isn't alot of th10s in Titan if you want to play in the big leagues you should be ready to fight the big dogs. Also due to the loot penalty it's not worth attacking a th10 in the lower leaguesQuote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
It is fair because they all have the choice to play lower in trophies if they want or player higher and fight against the more advanced bases. It is a choice. It is easy to keep 5 builders busy in either case, it just depends what type of play style you like best.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
if they are such big dogs then why are they hiding in the lower leagues HA HA, but yea i have been fighting with the big dogs all of 2018 lol, i will be a town hall 11 shortly im just making sure my walls are maxxed. Too many town hall 11 and 12's hiding out in the lower leagues where there isnt any competition for them and you wonder why there is clouding? that is exactly why they should only be able to attack other town hall 11 and 12's no matter what league they are in, which would dramatically reduce the search time, and like i said previously, would stop players from rushing to these levels!
lol how is it fair that a town hall 12 in crystal league is destroying town hall 9 and 10's? the hero levels are dramatically different and so are the troop levels, yet you say that is fair? the amount of troop capacity alone makes it unfair. the amount of walls and wall levels makes it unfair. there are way too many reasons it is unfair!
Do you understand the loot penalty? no th12 is attacking a th9 or a th10. the loot penalty makes it unprofitableQuote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
dude, yes they are lol i get attacked by only town hall 11 and 12's did you not read that part? they are in the lower leagues because they can dominate there and its preventing the lower town halls from upgrading. town hall 9 and below would be able to upgrade accordingly instead of struggling to do so like they are now. you want more people to "WANT" to play or do you want more people to delete the app?
You obviously don't understand the loot penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
Why would a th12 attack a th9 when the loot penalty means that the th12 can only get, at best, 87500 of each from a th9 with full storages? That doesn't even cover the elixir cost of a barch army
No well developed th12 got that way by attack town halls 3 levels lower then themselves.
Also you get attack cause you are in titan where people want cups not loot. There is no cup penalty. Th12s that are low are there cause they want loot they obviously don't care about cups or they would be higher.
I’m happy when my th9 and th10 sitting in lower leagues gets attacked by a high hall because the loot penalty causes them to take much less loot than if I was attacked by another th9 or th10. It is irrelevant anyway, you can progress very quickly by attacking more than you defend and even if you don’t raid at all you can still progress with your base, just slowly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
lol you just dont understand, im telling you that thats what they do. im in titan league an i search for quite some time but they never offer me titan league opponents just champion league opponents and they are all pretty much max 11 or 12. there are thousands of town hall 11 and 12's in these lower leagues so they will be able to attack other town hall 11 and 12's in their league as well, but would also be able to attack town hall 11 and 12's in all leagues. all the other town hall levels in their league would still be able to attack them if they wanted to, but wouldnt be able to be attacked by that high of a town hall opponent unless its a "revenge" attack.
Im just thinking about the longevity of the game, the harder it is for people to upgrade, the easier it will be for them to quit playing. More lower town halls wont struggle with upgrading their bases, enabling them to want to keep playing, and there wouldnt be clouding if they did this because all of the players that are town hall 11 and 12 would be able to be attacked by the legends league players (and im guessing there are at least 50 thousand town hall 11 and 12's out there).
What lower bases are struggling to upgrade. Where is your proof of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
Your plan doesn’t make it easier to upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
It is already easy for active players playing lower to keep all of their builders busy and lab running even when getting hit by higher hall players. In fact, it is better to get hit by a higher hall player because they take less loot due to the % penalty.
the proof is in the amount of dead bases in the crystal and champion leagues lol obviously, it would appear they have gave up on the game. if they werent faced with these higher town hall opponents then maybe they would still be playing. the problem isnt being attacked by them, the problem is with the lower town halls searching for attacks are stuck attacking these higher town halls since they flood the lower leagues, and that would make it easier for them to upgrade to higher town halls themselves. the more people upgrading means a town hall 13 sooner than the 2 years everyone waited for town hall 12!
NO their not stuck attacking higher townhalls. Below Champs you are matched based on your current th level +1 or - 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
My th9 in masters never sees a th12 and I can count on one hand the amount of th11s I've seen in the last 6 months. Meanwhile my th12 has never seen a th9 and sporadically sees a th10 that aren't worth attacking cause the loot penalty only offers me 50 % of their available loot.
I think your problem is that you think that that your experience in Titan is everyone else's experience everywhere and that's just wrong. Matchmaking is completely different in Champs+ than it is in lower levels
What about not allowing Players in Legend league to buy sheilds from shop...it will mean they will be available after 20 hours of guard and sheild.
Legends players can’t buy the 1 week shield and the 1 day and 2 day shields have cool downs, so you can’t buy that many and when they are purchased, they quickly go away because the player keeps attacking even on shield other than perhaps the last day. So, while it would make a difference by forcing a few more defenses, it wouldn’t make a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by LetMeClasH
I agree with OP, I had the same experience. When I was in TH9 on crystal/champ league, most of the attackers were high developed th10 and th11 and obviusly they 3 star always my base, they dont care about loot penalty.
Also I agree that if th11/12 can only attack other same level bases the clouding could be reduced on higher leagues, the only problem I see are all the rushed th11, they will get stuck.
exactly demonrock 22, hey 2222 do you think i just magically started playing as a town hall 10 in titan league? i was a th9 in masters and crystal and champion leagues and i struggled. the only defenses i would win are the ones where people were farming and just after my loot or they accidentally drop a hero and back out. i was so close to quitting but since its literally the only game i play, i'll keep playing.
You shouldn't have struggled in Crystal or masters. A TH9 will struggle a bit in champions, although both my first two accounts spent a fair amount if tgeir TH9 time in Champs. You obviously didn't just magically start as a TH10 in titans, but you do appear to have forgotten what Crystal/masters were like as a TH9.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth
My 4th account is still a TH9 in masters, and never sees TH12s, rarely sees TH11s, usually sees a TH9 within 3-4 nexts. And attacks TH9s much more often than either of the others.
I didn’t assume you started as a th10, but am surprised to hear you struggled in masters as a th9. The “struggle” for less than max players is a choice, though. You can play lower to find an easier way to gain resources or you can choose to trophy push higher for the fun/struggle/challenge of it. Back before I was max I used to do both. I would push up to where it got harder for me, then goblin attack my way down to silver, then go up again. This kept me entertained for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by mozisdamyth