Why engineered bases will never die

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Originally Posted by 2222

Engineers are of course a large source of SC’s revenue. No one disagrees. What people disagree with are the two things you say in addition to that. First, you say they would never cut off paying customers. The banning of modding players proves you wrong. Second, you assume that changes to engineering would cost SC money. That isn’t true. Many engineers will adjust and keep playing and paying. Many other players will enjoy even war matches more and keep playing and paying.

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Cheaters and players are 2 entirely different things! I do not assume changes would stop engineers from playing, however I feel strongly that eliminating them entirely would, hence the thread “why engineered bases will never die”

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

Cheaters and players are 2 entirely different things! I do not assume changes would stop engineers from playing, however I feel strongly that eliminating them entirely would, hence the thread “why engineered bases will never die”

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Did SC ever stated that they are going to eliminate engineers completely?

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

You are entitled to your opinion, but it does not make anything you said factual.
Loot is much more difficult to comeby against opponents of equal weight each time you upgrade your townhall. Ex th9 base can make mad loot from th9 opponents. Same th9 base upgrades th to th11 and begins an engineering path. Early on offense is far from maxxed but almost all opponents in farming are now maxxed th11s and you have the offense of a th9. You actually believe it is easy to upgrade your offenses at this point and remotely possible to defend whatever loot you do possibly gain? Cmon

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I love the irony. One guy who makes unfounded assumptions and claims accuses another guy of making unfounded assumptions and claims.

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

Did SC ever stated that they are going to eliminate engineers completely?

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Not to my knowledge, however in another thread “unplaced buildings and engineered bases” many of the opposition commenters implied that they did or were planning to, hence I felt the need for this thread to clear that nonsense right up for everyone to see. Change is good and if clans are still being matched up with “unfair” engineered bases they really need to look at their lineups. Either they have engineered bases, rushed bases, or 5 th12s and 20 th4s. In our experience, over the past year supercell has made changes to mm alg that have pitted us against much more difficult engineered opponents than the sitting ducks that we were before we jumped on the eng bandwagon. There is just something satisfying about out-engineering a superengineered opponent that with only full weight wars we would not get. Again when we go full weight we match with full weights so I truly believe sc has made the right changes and is on the right track. But I want everyone to know there is a whole other element to engineered wars that is strategic and in my eyes more satisfying than full weight victories. Eliminating that would make wars boring for alot of us that enjoy that part of it. I will agree early on it was unfair, but we the players have adapted and sc has adapted and it is no longer the upperhand it was back then.

Quote Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem View Post
You are entitled to your opinion, but it does not make anything you said factual.
Loot is much more difficult to comeby against opponents of equal weight each time you upgrade your townhall. Ex th9 base can make mad loot from th9 opponents. Same th9 base upgrades th to th11 and begins an engineering path. Early on offense is far from maxxed but almost all opponents in farming are now maxxed th11s and you have the offense of a th9. You actually believe it is easy to upgrade your offenses at this point and remotely possible to defend whatever loot you do possibly gain? Cmon

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Originally Posted by prufrock

I love the irony. One guy who makes unfounded assumptions and claims accuses another guy of making unfounded assumptions and claims.

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For me, single father of 2, works 60-70 hours a week to make ends meet, clashes with what little spare time he has, the struggle was real to get my engineered bases to where they needed to be. Some of you might have all the time in the world and could see and do things differently and that is fine.

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

Not to my knowledge, however in another thread “unplaced buildings and engineered bases” many of the opposition commenters implied that they did or were planning to, hence I felt the need for this thread to clear that nonsense right up for everyone to see. Change is good and if clans are still being matched up with “unfair” engineered bases they really need to look at their lineups. Either they have engineered bases, rushed bases, or 5 th12s and 20 th4s. In our experience, over the past year supercell has made changes to mm alg that have pitted us against much more difficult engineered opponents than the sitting ducks that we were before we jumped on the eng bandwagon. There is just something satisfying about out-engineering a superengineered opponent that with only full weight wars we would not get. Again when we go full weight we match with full weights so I truly believe sc has made the right changes and is on the right track. But I want everyone to know there is a whole other element to engineered wars that is strategic and in my eyes more satisfying than full weight victories. Eliminating that would make wars boring for alot of us that enjoy that part of it. I will agree early on it was unfair, but we the players have adapted and sc has adapted and it is no longer the upperhand it was back then.

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So you created a thread based on comments from people who does not represent SC on an act that SC never said they will do. Where by far, in this thread no one has argued that engineered bases will be eliminated completely (of course this is based on your definition of dying which is complete elimination of engineers). Have I got that right?

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

So you created a thread based on comments from people who does not represent SC on an act that SC never said they will do. Where by far, in this thread no one has argued that engineered bases will be eliminated completely (of course this is based on your definition of dying which is complete elimination of engineers). Have I got that right?

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Wrong, I created this thread because in the update notes supercell said nothing about adding the weight of unplaced buildings, which I only found out by at first seeing the moveup of my base in our war lineup, and then researching what just happened? Upon researching it led me to these forums for answers as to why that happened as supercell left me entirely in the dark, which led to me posting a forum, which led to people stating the things they stated ie it was all a part of the plan to phase out engineering, which led to me starting this thread and stating the things I stated to clarify that that is not what is actually happening. If supercell had been upfront about what they were doing and why with all the players that are not part of this forum, certainly this could all have been avoided, but they were not so here we are:)

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

Not to my knowledge, however in another thread “unplaced buildings and engineered bases” many of the opposition commenters implied that they did or were planning to, hence I felt the need for this thread to clear that nonsense right up for everyone to see. Change is good and if clans are still being matched up with “unfair” engineered bases they really need to look at their lineups. Either they have engineered bases, rushed bases, or 5 th12s and 20 th4s. In our experience, over the past year supercell has made changes to mm alg that have pitted us against much more difficult engineered opponents than the sitting ducks that we were before we jumped on the eng bandwagon. There is just something satisfying about out-engineering a superengineered opponent that with only full weight wars we would not get. Again when we go full weight we match with full weights so I truly believe sc has made the right changes and is on the right track. But I want everyone to know there is a whole other element to engineered wars that is strategic and in my eyes more satisfying than full weight victories. Eliminating that would make wars boring for alot of us that enjoy that part of it. I will agree early on it was unfair, but we the players have adapted and sc has adapted and it is no longer the upperhand it was back then.

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

Wrong, I created this thread because in the update notes supercell said nothing about adding the weight of unplaced buildings, which I only found out by at first seeing the moveup of my base in our war lineup, and then researching ♥♥♥ just happened? Upon researching it led me to these forums for answers as to why that happened as supercell left me entirely in the dark, which led to me posting a forum, which led to people stating the things they stated ie it was all a part of the plan to phase out engineering, which led to me stating the things I stated to clarify that that is not what is actually happening. If supercell had been upfront about what they were doing and why with all the players that are not part of this forum, certainly this could all have been avoided, but they were not so here we are:)

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So which one is it? Did you create this thread because people (not representing SC) told you that SC is eliminating engineers completely or because SC did not announce that additional weight will be added even though buildings were not placed. You already said wrong on the former which leaves the latter but your arguments in this thread leans more towards defending the former. There is nothing in your initial post that mentions anything about SC not making an announcement with regards to additional weight (which by the way only happens when you buy the upgrade pack).

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

So which one is it? Did you create this thread because people (not representing SC) told you that SC is eliminating engineers completely or because SC did not announce that additional weight will be added even though buildings were not placed. You already said wrong on the former which leaves the latter but your arguments in this thread leans more towards defending the former. There is nothing in your initial post that mentions anything about SC not making an announcement with regards to additional weight (which by the way only happens when you buy the upgrade pack).

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I created another thread for that reason and then this thread because of the responses in that thread. Also I created this thread because I enjoy playing the game and as a player should have every right to create a thread should I feel the need to but
I guess we may never really know why because I have nothing left to say to you but good luck fellow clasher!

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Originally Posted by sgtslaughterem

I guess we may never really know why because I have nothing left to say to you but good luck fellow clasher!

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Hmm so does this mean you have no justifications for why you created this thread or for the contradictions that you have just presented?