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I don't believe the wb would follow those paths, i *think* (could very well be wrong) they would either tail right or left depending upon the next closest wall. I think if you hit slightly to the right of the red circle the next set of wbs would hit the corner. They seem to consider TH placement at least to a small degree.
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Originally Posted by Pingfao
I may have referenced it wrong saying NW. I'm talking about the west end of the north bracket and the east end of the south bracket. I think I explained my path badly in retrospect.
I do suspect they derail from the long straight paths as well, but noone has ever tried deploying from there so I can't say for sure. However, if they do derail, they would be more likely to go to the "closer" walls relatively to the paths, which are the outside ones. Townhall has no effects on WB's AI.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
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Originally Posted by Hannibal
Ah ok. Then, yes, you are correct. Someone pointed that out as well, earlier in this thread. Those are the 2 weakest points of this layout vs WB's AI. Noone has tried deploying WBs there yet though so I'm not sure if they would go straight (black) or get attracted to the strip (purple). However, I do think you are right about them going straight (black). I have thought about this and came up with a simple solution. I can attract WBs deployed from these precise spawn points away from the weak points by placing a single spike where the yellow dots are. I havn't done it yet just for the sake of a "clean" look. Plus, noone has tried to deploy WBs there yet, and I want to see if they do in fact go straight instead of get attracted to the zigzag :o Great analysis btw! Only people with sufficient knowledge of AI would be able to point out these precise weak spots.
My bad for not reading the whole thread and realizing someone already pointed it out. I'm bad that way. ;)
Yeah, I'm 99% sure that the path you've drawn there will hit your core. But wb AI is pretty poorly understood and you can get a lot of mileage out of strip plans like these as people tear their hair out yelling at their wallbreakers to go where they want them to go.
The problem with strip plans is that they do have blind spots and I think they're extra-vulnerable to people who do understand wb AI. So I guess it's a question of if you're building a base for the 99% who have no clue or the 1% who can take your base apart.
I do really like strip plans though. I think they're clever in ways that the brute force of egg crates aren't. I love maze plans also for that matter, but they're similarly hard to do well and and often fall apart for people who understand the game.
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Originally Posted by Pingfao
I honestly designed this layout aiming at those 99% haha. The openess of the strip plans attracts them to attack me often, and at the "vulnerable-looking" spots. It is amusing to me to watch replays of those who are probably "tearing their hair out yelling at their wallbreakers" :o I have yet to tried a maze plan. I might when I get to TH8 with the extra walls. Ultimately, I want to be able to utilize the strengths of the strips, eggcrate, maze, and other interesting plans into 1 layout (if the wall amount allows.. probably have to wait 'til TH9 for this.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibal
I think designing for the 99% is brilliantly done. You've made it "seem" vulnerable when it really isn't which means the less knowledgeable folks are more apt to attack, which means you are more likely to get shielded without losing resources before a skilled player (who could ruin any base design) can get in and do damage.
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Originally Posted by Pingfao
you have to design for the 99%. in my base, i rely on double walls/strong defenses all around, except from one side of my base.
that single-walled side "lures" 80% of people looking to break into my storage containers. much like your design, though, I've had incredible success wasting people's wallbreakers by exploiting the AI's pathing via rocks, trees, and wall spikes that appear, to most people, too far away to attract wallbreakers.
one thing i'd recommend for your next base is that you incorporate rocks and trees into your base design -- you can effectively eliminate "drop points" by lining up decorations and the random rocks and trees that appear. like all good things, though, it takes patience and a bit of luck.
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I never thought of it that way about attracting easy free shields haha. Nice! Something to keep in mind for later. Although as of now, I don't wanna lose nor getting a shield. I'd rather they take my resources than my pride! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by mcauliffetj
That is my FAVORITE thing to do!! I used to have similar base as described. Everywhere was heavily armed except one side of the base which "looked" very vulnerable but was actually packed with both of the teslas and all of the traps. It is the most amusing thing to watch someone deployment all their troops there.. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by resnullius
I do use decorations to force spawn away from the walls btw. I don't like rocks nor random trees though.. If you look closely, you'll see my base only has Christmas trees ;)
Care to link your plan Resnullius? I'm curious.
And one easy way to improve that blind spot might be just to bend the wall out at that third segment there, rather than having it continue to run parallel to your inner core. Pretty sure you've pushed a starting point far enough out that a wb trying to exploit the distance between the angled strip and the bracket will be pulled to one or another.
Uh, I could be wrong though. I can't count squares on your screenshot. ;)