Powerbang's video

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

You have accused me of grasping at straws and continue to assert that it is obvious how fellow clan mates know what others are doing and yet when pressed for evidence you provide none. You continue to assert what SC can see in the chats and things that happen in the clan and yet provide no evidence for it. If you cannot prove someone's guilt then do not make the accusation.

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First of all, I don't have to prove it, Supercell handed down the suspension and I trust them to do the right thing, Second, if you have never had a player banned for modding, then you wouldn't know whether you could have detected it or not. That is what actually started this dialogue. As for providing evidence that Supercell can see what is posted in clan chats, do you think they ban reported players based solely on someone telling them what was said? Sorry, but somethings are obvious without me proving them to you. Thanks for your input, but the bottom line is that I will speak my mind and if a moderator decides that I am wrong, they will tell me. And when they do, I will accept the consequences for my actions just like I would expect anyone else to do. Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by TurmBo

First of all, I don't have to prove it, Supercell handed down the suspension and I trust them to do the right thing, Second, if you have never had a player banned for modding, then you wouldn't know whether you could have detected it or not. That is what actually started this dialogue. As for providing evidence that Supercell can see what is posted in clan chats, do you think they ban reported players based solely on someone telling them what was said? Sorry, but somethings are obvious without me proving them to you. Thanks for your input, but the bottom line is that I will speak my mind and if a moderator decides that I am wrong, they will tell me. And when they do, I will accept the consequences for my actions just like I would expect anyone else to do. Have a nice day.

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First, If you are going to accuse or claim that someone is guilty of allowing modding to happen in their clan then you have the burden of proof.

Second, you are assuming that I never had the experience of someone in my clan getting caught modding but I have and I had no way to figure out that that person was modding. Our clan also did not accept any members that are TH7 or lower.

It does not matter what I think or what you think of what SC can and cannot do or what you think is obvious. What matter is what you can prove to be true.

The mods will not take any actions against you even if your opinion is wrong. What matters here is whether or not our discussion follows the guidelines of the forum rules. As long as our discussion remains civil no repercussion will happen.

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Originally Posted by SteveoUk

As someone else pointed out, why should he have been treated differently from other players who don’t have a direct line into PB?

Strikes me that SC just treated him like all other players (and within the game that is all he is regardless who he is or the position and reach he has outside of it).

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What would have been the advantage of a heads up? It's just a kind gesture to show him that they appreciate his work. Something like "Hey buddy, I'm sorry that we will ban your clan in a few days but we want to treat everyone the same. Your clan mate has done xxxxx and because of xxxx we have decided to ban your clan, too.".

Bottom line here, if we had new content PB doesn't make this video. That seems to be a good consensus across the board on the te forums.

As for BH - I would love for them to remove it and make it its own game, just so they can see for themselves how much we don't like it as a community. Add it to clash royal instead.

As for new content, I think a new th is needed but what's needed more is fresh content. Target what people like. Wars. Clash war tourney would be great. Eventually max th12s will happen in a week I'm sure with the gemmers, I think it's still needed, but a tournament will keep the game fresh for quite some time. Also new troops would be nice. Maybe at the th10 level. Seems like there was a big push to get people leveled recently with all the clash rewards.

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Originally Posted by TurmBo

Let's be realistic. How many successful high level war clans just accept a TH3 into their clan for no reason other then the guy asked to join?

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It doesn't need to be in a high level clan. A TH11 player doesn't even have to be in the clan with the TH3.

Spot on analysis as always from my go to YouTube’er. Don’t really care about the personal part with his banning. Cheating has consequences. Move on. As far as the new main base content (or lack there of) the message is only saying what many of us have been ranting about here on forums. He actually hit a nerve when I heard it out loud that we havent had new main base content for 2 years minus the nerfs, buffs, and a few new levels to buildings and heroes. The game has gone stale and I can only hope that the next few updates re light the glory that clash used to have. #MakeClashGreatAgain

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

Second, you are assuming that I never had the experience of someone in my clan getting caught modding but I have and I had no way to figure out that that person was modding. Our clan also did not accept any members that are TH7 or lower.

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I hope you don't mind my quoting only this portion of your reply, as it is the comment I intend to address. First off, I presume nothing. I asked earlier of TheConfuzed1 if he had ever had a member banned that he could base his statement on. I did not see a reply from either of you in the affirmative at that time. Not only that, but I think that you would have lead with this as your argument from the beginning considering the could/should have known factor. Based on this I hope that you can understand that I am skeptical of your claim coming at this point in the discussion?

I got to be a co-leader in WHF for about 10 months from around September 2016 through about July 2017. It was a bummer to see PB lose some interest. I think it took longer for him to sort of officially 'pull the plug' because he didn't have another game that really excited him at the time. I'm glad he's found that game now. His channel is growing at an insane rate now too. Good for him.

Regarding the personal slight, I see both sides of this argument. If you rub shoulders with SC's small staff while you are over in Finland it does seem like a "Hey, this is going to happen and this is why, let's talk about it" would help because then his video after could be about how SC was having conversations to deal with it, etc.

I'm excited for the next update, although I myself have been out of the competitive scene / spending money scene for well over a year now.

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Originally Posted by TurmBo

I hope you don't mind my quoting only this portion of your reply, as it is the comment I intend to address. First off, I presume nothing. I asked earlier of TheConfuzed1 if he had ever had a member banned that he could base his statement on. I did not see a reply from either of you in the affirmative at that time.

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Why should I answer a question that you asked of another person? That would not be appropriate. As a matter of fact, you will be well within your right to tell me not to answer that question since it was not directed towards me.

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Originally Posted by TurmBo

Not only that, but I think that you would have lead with this as your argument from the beginning considering the could/should have known factor. Based on this I hope that you can understand that I am skeptical of your claim coming at this point in the discussion?

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Why does it matter whether or not I have experienced this situation? I am questioning your claim that other members of the clan must know that another member is modding and therefore deserves getting banned. My experience in the matter have no bearing to what you can prove. If I did tell you in the beginning that I have such experience would your argument be any different? If so, how? If not, then why bring my experience into the argument?

Not a good decision to move this thread to content creation imo. Yes, it's about Powerbang but he said some very important things and nobody will read it here. :unsure: