Clan Games - May 8th - May 15th - Details inside

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

How is it easier than other 30k clan games? At the end of the day you need exactly the same number of points as you did in other clan games with 30k tiers. It is no easier or harder than other 30k clan games. You need the same amount of points. Only difference is it is more accessible for smaller clans now because of the increased individual player cap.

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The bolded statement is the answer to your question.
The underlined words are the key words. Easier = more accessible

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

Believe it or not but there are some players out there which can benefit from every book type that don't have maxed TH11's.

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I didn't say I don't believe it.
I said you still can only choose one. If you think the you need BoH, choose it. If you think you need BoB and the clan games offers only BoH, does that make you less benefited? No. You still can choose BoH and wait for next clan games that have a high chance of offering BoB within 2 weeks. And this applies to all players, max player or not. For instance, I don't need BoS, but in the past I chose it, as there is no other Books in the same tier.

Just choose whatever it's offered that you think it's best. There is no reason to ask SC to change the clan games rewards choices just because you don't like it. The rewards choices are there for whatever reason that only SC knows. Who cares, you still can get a BoH.

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

Each to their own but from my perspective they are overpriced. And as long as you continue doing your daily loot cycles the walls will be maxed within 5-6 months along with everything else on builder base. 900 gems for 2 days of loot is not worth it. You could rush 3 loot cycles for less than that.

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Again, it's worth 2 Millions Builder Base loot or 4 days of loot cycle.
And it's a good reward for someone with max Heroes or almost max Heroes.

Well you might think so. But if clan games consistently offers magical items like Runes and Walls Rings, those who take it specifically for Builder Base progress will find it progressing very fast than average players will do. The accumulated progress from those magical items will be quite significant.

But yes, this is totally depending on your progress individually, so each to their own.

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Originally Posted by SilverX

The bolded statement is the answer to your question.
The underlined words are the key words. Easier = more accessible

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Because something is more accessible does not make it any easier. Its still requires the same amount of effort from the clan as any other 30k games. It is not easier or harder than it previously was. Again I will emphasize the point. It still requires the same effort and same amount of points from the clan as any other 30k games to achieve the top tier. More accessible does not equate to something being easier. It equates to something that more people can avail themselves of.

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Originally Posted by SilverX

Again, it's worth 2 Millions Builder Base loot or 4 days of loot cycle.
And it's a good reward for someone with max Heroes or almost max Heroes.

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No, it equates to 2 days of loot cycle. Here is an example for you to understand. Lets say you wanted to upgrade two level 8 builder hall walls @ 3 million a hit. How many loot cycles would it take you? You probably will say 12 but the correct answer to that question is 6. If you sped through 6 loot cycles it might set you back around 1500 gems. If you used your ring of walls you would need 16 of them. That 3 lots of 5 which will cost 2700 gems and 1 more at 200 gems. That's 2900 gems. Again I will reiterate my point, the ring of walls are not value and grossly overpriced, even in the builder hall, when you can get the loot required for them for half the price the ring of walls would cost.

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

Because something is more accessible does not make it any easier. Its still requires the same amount of effort from the clan as any other 30k games. It is not easier or harder than it previously was. Again I will emphasize the point. It still requires the same effort and same amount of points from the clan as any other 30k games to achieve the top tier. More accessible does not equate to something being easier. It equates to something that more people can avail themselves of.

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I said it's easier to complete the Clan Games. I did not say easier to reach 30K. Previously completing clan games require 13-17 people, now it only requires 8 people. It's the same effort needed to reach 30K, but it does not considered as completing clan games for 50K clan games.
And by allowing 4K individual cap, the clan games was easier to complete for smaller clans.

In the past we had 30K clan games, but the individual points cap is 3K. Requiring 2 lesser players is considered as easier and you know how difficult it is to reach 30K with 3K individual cap and only 8 players, it's impossible. But it is possible for 8 players clan for next clan games. See the perspective also from a smaller clan....

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

No, it equates to 2 days of loot cycle. Here is an example for you to understand. Lets say you wanted to upgrade two level 8 builder hall walls @ 3 million a hit. How many loot cycles would it take you? You probably will say 12 but the correct answer to that question is 6. If you sped through 6 loot cycles it might set you back around 1500 gems. If you used your ring of walls you would need 16 of them. That 3 lots of 5 which will cost 2700 gems and 1 more at 200 gems. That's 2900 gems. Again I will reiterate my point, the ring of walls are not value and grossly overpriced, even in the builder hall, when you can get the loot required for them for half the price the ring of walls would cost.

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What are you talking about? Don't understand it....
You only need 6 cycles to reach 3 Million Gold, not 12 cycles. 1 cycles is 500 Gold (above 4200).

The correct calculation should be
2 Rings of Walls needed to upgrade Walls level 4 to 5.
The cost per each Walls upgrade from level 4 to 5 is 800K Gold.
Having 5 Rings of Walls meaning you could upgrade 2.5 walls from level 4 to 5.
So the value of 5 Rings of Walls equal to 2 Million Builder Gold.
Therefore, you need 4 loot cycles, not 2.... Try gemming 4 loot cycles and tell me the gems required. It's not going to be cheaper than 900 gems. You know there is a reason why the cost is 900 gems, SC is not stupid to calculate it wrongly....

I think my maxed th11 will choose the ring of walls (still having 100 walls left) and my mini will choose the book of heroes, the king needs two more levels

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Originally Posted by DrJoe4

What's with all this hate? What do people not get? We aren't getting top quality rewards cause this is an easy clan games meant for small clans. Another thing that puzzles me is the people saying how they could expand the tiers and make it bigger. Thats not the point of this one! People just want things handed to them these days. Everyone should be happy about the BoH and the rune of builder gold. Both are great rewards. Who cares if they aren't giving BoE or the dark elixir rune? Would it just be better to go a week or 2 more without clan games? Would that make everyone stop complaining about not being spoiled enough?

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The main concern is 30,000 for 7 days. Which most of the clan can achieve within a day including small clans, it use less to give that much time for 30,000

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Originally Posted by SilverX

What are you talking about? Don't understand it....
You only need 6 cycles to reach 3 Million Gold, not 12 cycles. 1 cycles is 500 Gold (above 4200).

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Obviously you missed the point where I said TWO level 8 builder hall wall pieces. The reason I used level 8 is because level 8 builder hall walls can use BOTH GOLD AND ELIXIR. 6 loot cycles at the 4200 level will get you 3 million gold and 3 million elixir. That is enough to upgrade TWO LEVEL 8 BUILDER HALL WALLS. Now how many ring of walls does it cost to upgrade two level 8 builder hall walls. Its costs 16 of them which will set you back 2900 gems. Now next time you finish a loot cycle take a look at how much it costs you to rush it to the next. Should be around the 250 gems mark. It is significantly cheaper to rush loot cycles than to use ring of walls in the builder base if in the 4200 range.

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

Obviously you missed the point where I said TWO level 8 builder hall wall pieces. The reason I used level 8 is because level 8 builder hall walls can use BOTH GOLD AND ELIXIR. 6 loot cycles at the 4200 level will get you 3 million gold and 3 million elixir. That is enough to upgrade TWO LEVEL 8 BUILDER HALL WALLS. Now how many ring of walls does it cost to upgrade two level 8 builder hall walls. Its costs 16 of them which will set you back 2900 gems. Now next time you finish a loot cycle take a look at how much it costs you to rush it to the next. Should be around the 250 gems mark. It is significantly cheaper to rush loot cycles than to use ring of walls in the builder base if in the 4200 range.

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Using the Walls rings on level 8 Builder Walls indicate you don't know which Builder walls levels is the most efficient to upgrade with Walls rings.
If you are smart, you will get the loot normally for level 8 upgrade and use walls rings for level 5 and 6.

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Originally Posted by SilverX

If you are smart, you will get the loot normally for level 8 upgrade and use walls rings for level 5 and 6.

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Smart people wouldn't use them period ;)

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Originally Posted by KiwiNoob

Smart people wouldn't use them period ;)

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Having a magical item and don't use them? Sound so smart lol

Giving builder gold rune surely in occasion of 1 year anniversary of builder base in may 17, a book of building would have been good to use it along the rune