'your bag'? You make it sound like it's our fault for not getting a bigger bag lol. Another silly anologyQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverRyu
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'your bag'? You make it sound like it's our fault for not getting a bigger bag lol. Another silly anologyQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverRyu
46M?? Really fella?Quote:
Originally Posted by aviijwr
In no way did they screw us over. First, the losing side likely can hold their loot, we still got a lot more than we normally would have. You earned 4x it's not false advertising.
Would you rather than just not offer it? How would that help you? It wouldn't.
Art of war current ongoing event is just waste. It only help to gain mass 4x clan xp from single war. Loot is just a showoff that supercell is offering 4x everything in war :thumbsdown:
In recent war My clan win a war of 40. We are successful in gaining 1100 Clan Xp but I am unsuccessful in gaining 4x loot:unsure:
I am Th9 player my war win bonus is near about 4M (GOLD AND ELIXIR), 18K dark but my cc offers me only 2M(GOLD AND ELIXIR) 12K dark. Supercell should increase the Treasury Storage during this wat event:thumbsup:To gain full amount of loot:thumbsup:
I would suggest supercell to fix this problem in future whenever they are offering huge amount of items and they will gonna increase the storage capacity too :)
Maybe 'no way' is a stretch. They could have used the words 'upto 4x' loot. That would have cleared this confusion from the start. Anyway.. This topic has been over discussed. Nothing new can be said about this which isint already in the multiple threads.
Let's enjoy the cc full of loot!
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Originally Posted by StormHeart
heh heh, last night in my clan we were about to finish a war where we won and a clan mate was saying in the clan - "Wow! I'm getting 25k DE from this war win, nothing to sneeze at" I quickly corrected him saying you'll only get as much as your CC can hold.
His response? "In that case, I demand to see the manager."
It was quite comical.
Yeah little disappointing that put this event in and you don't get the full amount of the war win loot, I think that's quite an oversight. But I'm not bothered at all, 1 or 2 raids later and I've made that DE back that I "Lost".
Some people aren’t so good at converting between numeric forms (such as 3000000) and their textual equivalent (3 million). His point is still equally valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasoTheOne
No it's not a stretch. It was obvious to me we couldn't hold it all. They said you'd earn and you did. You just can't hold it. They didn't mislead me.
Also, there is another thread on this topic. It's gotten way past old. I should not have commented. This thread is going to be merged soon. I saw another thread on this topic just now. I won't go say the same thing half of the people have said.
I find this complaint to be selfish, half the people that war lose and they get a lot more than the normally pitiful bonus one gets for losing.
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Originally Posted by SpartanDoc
I think the OP is being a bit dramatic but I agree with what they state. Why not say 1000x War Loot? I would still get the same as I would from the 4x war loot. My latest haul...."6,500,000 each of gold and lix, 35,000 Dark"....what my maxed TH11 treasury can hold...3,600,000 and 18,000. Might as well go all Austin Powers style and advertise a BILLION times loot bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverRyu
Our war just ended with a win and not a single person in my clan complained about false and broken promises yada yada.
Well it was clearly false advertising. If I considered it to be advertising from the start. You see, I'm not actually paying for any of this and neither are you.Quote:
Originally Posted by iAmLegal
Was it done poorly? yes, for sure. Really bad in fact. Am I going to carry on about it? No, it's pointless. Nothing was stolen from me. I didn't actually earn or purchase it.
So: Was it poorly done? Yes. No doubt
Was it some unforgivable lie or theft or deception? No.
Drawing attention to it is great. However, It's really is somewhat absurd when people start blabbering about Chinese companies, while misspelling chiness, or bellowing "insert political belief here" yet missing a large portion of said belief. It just comes off as ridiculous.
They obviously aren’t forum material, are they? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chang405
Haahaa... seriously!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverRyu
Here a fact silveRyu -- you know there is no bag which can hold 5million. And you know maximum amount a bag can hold is 3.6million. why can't do it as 2x loot bonus instead of 4x??? 2x will give you 3.6m with 18k dark Elixir. It's common sense which is lacking here.
BTW, I don't care about war loot, I can loot that with a one hour boost using free training potion I got from the trader. But, Advertising as you'll be served big bacon burger for $5 and when you see one half of big bacon burger in your plate. I'm sure, you'll be happy to say, oh wow. It fits my plate. I'm absolutely fine with it!!!
Just to piggyback...I'm fully maxed TH11...nothing to spend anything on but these never ending white walls. Not like a NEED the loot, but as advertised I could do a couple more of them per war if treasury could hold it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maverick
Aaa... unfortunately we lost the war and i got only 1million bonus for it...
Good night Supercell's support, my name is Alan Guzman, im from Guatemala and i play Clash of Clans and my user name is Haldamir.Yesterday my clan have a war, and i saw that there was x4 bonus if we won the war. In that war, we won, and i recolect 21k of dark elixir, but in my treasury only fits 12k. I dont come here to reclaim the other 9k of dark elixir, but i really like if you fix this of some way, i dont know.... make that the treasury have x4 capacity in dat day or put the rest of booty in the warehouse or something. jajaja
Thanks for reading me.
This thread has an outside chance of breaking the forum record for analogies. If this thread was a bone that dog isn’t letting go of it anytime soon. :)
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At least you've had a lovely day and you'll be going home with a Bendy Bully
I think it is mainly to add extra loot for lower THs. It is obvious that SC wants to get players to get through THs quicker.
The Treasury cap will affect all TH levels. My mini at TH7 will get approx. half of the winnings. I can loot quickly so no crying about it but it would be nice to get all of my winnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prutser
I filled my treasury yesterday when we won our war. Started another immediately and then spent my winnings !! Do I care that I couldn't hold it all ? Nope, a full treasury is a full treasury and much more loot than I would normally get. I only made a smallish loss on DE this time around, so it's all good !
Lots of XP for the clan too and we've got another war in progress so all is rosy.
So I won 5,780,000 and I only get 3,600,000 that’s abit pointless what’s the point having the event
To increase your loot from 1,445,000 to 3,600,000?
But my bonus was 5.7 mill why have a cap on the clan castle for the event when you can only take 3.6mill of it
Very frustrated with the new clash of clans event....
ART OF WAR (4x loot bonus, 4 x XP)
Well lets be honest the only thing you get is 2x loot bonus and 4x XP.
False advertising at its finest.
I agree, why 4 times loot, if your tresory cannot accept it, regardeless of th level (i busted tresory on my th9, th10 and th11), i find this missleading and it sort of says to your clan, why bother, loot will be wasted, even if we loose we will get a great bonus, with no loss, why push for a win, this is NOT the spirit we want forward
1) you got much more than you would haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Dweebo
2) if you had drawn or lost the war you would have got the full 4x
3) it’s all ‘free’ extra loot :)
Let’s just smile and enjoy the bonus bounty.
War win bonus was 4.17m of Gold and Elxir & 19k of dark vs storage capacity of 2.4m and 12k DE.
Yeah it's more than I would have got, but still feels like a waste somehow.
There are another active 43 pages thread discussing the same topic.
Which means, there are 2 groups of players that have totally different view on this topic. It was still active without any conclusion.
Chances are both sides not gonna agree on this. Accept it. Just get the as many war loot bonus you could store and move on. I am not liking the 4X bonus yet we are unable to get all bonus. But yeah, move on....
It's a win win situation for both winning and loosing clan. Both are getting good amount of loot.
Well, it's good to see 2 kinds people here on Forums.
1- why can't you give what you've advertise?
2- hey! Come on it's free. I'm happy!!! Why can't you be happy??
Ever since the word "FREE" got into mind. Everything is free.
This game is free to play. But you can't just sit idle and be lazy to Max your village. You gotta work on it.
Maybe, most of them are happy with whatever thrown at them. Obviously!! It's free!! Right!!? XD XD
WHY DO PEOPLE DON'T CALL A PAYCHECK AS FREE??! obviously! because, you work and you earn.
Clashers concept- you work, and you'll get it for free.. lol.. amazing!!!
There is absolutely no scam, under any normal definition of the word.
It costs you nothing, you get as much extra loot as will fit in your treasury, how is that a "scam".
Even false advertising is questionable at best. Yes, those on the winning side will not be able to take the full amount. The losers will get 4 times what they would have done (though still not as much as the winners will be getting).
I see this distinctly different....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maverick
Your war attack 'earns' you the regular loot. If this is multiplied be it by 2, 3 or 4 x then the additional bonus loot is 'free'.
As a maxer who is mid th11 with almost max heroes, I know the pain and glory of the grind but I also don't look a gift horse in the mouth :)
Close!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveoUk
You war attacks earns you loot.
If it's multiplied by 2,3 or 4. That isn't free. It's called bonus SteveoUK.
And that's exactly what SC advertised. Earn 4X bonus.
They didn't say Get free 4X bonus.
I hope you got my point.
I'm a maxed out with 70 walls left. I'm in no need of loot.
Just saying. At least don't provide fake promises to your valuable customers!
That's all.
Whatever there was on table ,people had it and went back home(moved on)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiler
Just informing how to organize the next party!! So that you get right things on table. Like they did this time..
Getting a chicken and calling it as turkey!!!
Obviously, those who expected turkey, are disappointed!!
Losers get 4X bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
Winners gets 2X( treasury full). XD XD
Yeah Lady, people here in the forums love to use the word ' free ' .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maverick
Maybe they should learn principles of Microeconomics, i mean the concept of
Opportunity Cost 😂 🤑
Edit: There's no free lunch
Playing a game does require work (eg. your muscle cells and brain cells are using up energy); however, to compare work in a game to real life work just doesn't make sense. If we go by what you say, nothing in life is free. Even the air you breath is not free because your lungs/respiratory system is doing work cycling the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Maverick
Is it just me or is everyone mad right now? Here is the thing...when we buy their offers and don't have enough room they make sure we have unlimited storage right? BUT when we are offered a 4x loot that EVERYONE needs for upgrading they put a cap on us!!! That is terrible that the only time we get to reap the benefits is when supercell is making a dollar on the purchase!!! I'm sure we could all use that dark for hero upgrades! That elixir for troops and walls and the coins for our defense and walls am I correct?! Raise your voices! Lets all tell them that this is not cool and we would like them to come up with a solution for this matter! My TH11s received not much from this war and they are the ones that spend their loot on troops for these war CC donations! Their response talks about clan XP well some of us dont need that as much as the loot!!! UGHHHH :( Supercell be good for your offer!!!!
First, the mods aren't SC. If you are disappointed with the response from SC you must mean that there hasn't been much of a response. I do see that the sticky thread discussing the event says the 4x event is up to the limit of your storage (even that could be clearer by referring to treasury). Other than that, I haven't seen anything from SC, although I could have missed it. As far as the mods go, I bet all of the mods wish it was explained better by SC to begin with or the treasury was expanded because this issue is just creating work for the mods. They have to combine threads together, respond to questions, etc. Also, I haven't seen the mods doing what you claim. I don't see them blaming players, although I do see them (and me and others) pointing out some players are taking this minor thing way too far. As for your last point, about lazy customer support, the mods are forum support, they don't work for SC. They can forward the complaint on to SC but it is up to SC, not the mods, to change anything if SC thinks it needs to be changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coastaljay
I didn't say you were one of those that I was describing as an example. I didn't go back and read through all of the posts to name names. I read the sticky note above and it says it is 4x up to the limit. Very early in the event people reported here the loot didn't go over capacity so it really wasn't 4x in many situations. So, I knew very early on that this was the case. Also, even if I didn't know, nothing would have changed for me. This isn't like buying something in the store. This is just doing what I would be doing anyway (trying to win a war) then finding out after the war is done that I didn't get as much loot as I had hoped to get, but knowing it didn't impact my play in any way at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAGo9
So, in the end, the event would have been better in my opinion if we were allowed to go over our limits, but it isn't a big deal.
In this case, there is.Quote:
Originally Posted by michelms
You do nothing at all any differently to what you would do without the event.
But you get more loot and clan XP than you normally would. That extra is totally free, because you have done nothing at all extra to receive it. It costs you nothing in time or money, or any other resource. I can't see how it could be any more free.
Actually, the bold bit is not true. I completed the golem event the other day and now have 2 of 1 books (i.e. the book won in the event was still granted even though I already had the limit of one book).Quote:
Originally Posted by Holps
Right and I knew that before I did the event so I took part in that event. I changed the way I play in order to win that extra book. If there was some sort of bug that caused me to not get the book then I would have been disappointed. This war event, on the other hand, I'm doing nothing different at all. Maybe that is why I don't care all that much that my storage is full after our win last night, but not flowing over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
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Originally Posted by Ajax
My bad..I was thinking purely of loot not magical items...should have made that clear
This is the part that has most people up in arms. Some events, including the one you mentioned, give awards that go above normal limits. This one doesn't. The treasury issue was raised in a thread 3-4 days before the event started. Those who know that treasury limits have never been expanded before, questioned whether it would really be 4x loot because they realized it would exceed the treasury cap; they guessed it would be 2x loot and 4x xp. It was confirmed in that thread that, yes, it would be 4x for both. Following that confirmation, there was a post asking if treasury limits would be expanded. No answer was ever given. (Unless you count the disclaimer in the event thread, which I believe was edited in well after the event was underway.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajax
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This is the fastest growing topic on the forums. Looks like we need to organise a protest.
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Originally Posted by Gecko74
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Great, event is almost getting over and still no official staff reply. And they are not going to either. Anyway, only request for such future events would be to atleast consider raising the limits of treasury or not advertise 4x loot.
I'm not sure what reply you're looking for? They've edited the original post saying that it's 4x loot with the treasure cap still in play. I'm pretty sure that's all we're going to get as an actual response.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharq
It sucks but what can you do? Complaining here won’t change anything.....still as I said it sucks ��
no problem for us, we lost previous war & about to lose current one :cool:
Darian already mentioned about capacity!! It is not SC fault. Its you guys fault. Check main notice message from darian. I am also lost half reward. But I am ok cuz he already mentined about this situation
It was brought up AFTER the event started even though dozens upon dozens were asking beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumos
Rumos. He added that disclaimer after the event started, and all the backlash had already begun.
The whole overflow thing isn't that big of a deal to me anyway, I'm happy they fill up my Treasury. That's good enough for me.
I have to say seeing
6,540,000 Gold
6,540,000 Elixir
35,400 Dark
Was pretty damn cool even though I could only hold about half of it. I was just glad we pulled out a win by 1.4% on percent destruction. Was a fun war that went right down to the wire.
In a similar boat. I had pretty much the exact same loot and only getting a little more than half didn't feel great, but oh well. Better than nothing. Finished a couple more walls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klavious
Can you share the link? I can’t seem to find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumos
I have no use for dark. The 3.xM gold/elixir I got was nearly 2 wall segments!Quote:
Originally Posted by RhaegarTargaryen
Would be great if we could collect war event loot like clan game rewards
better planning and time management
they dont want to give out much free loot(business reasons) & i understand that. so when ever they plan on doing 4x event they should do it as 4x XP only no extra loot at all. and when they plan on doing loot event do it 2x loot only no XP at all. keep them as separate events. problem solved.
just dont false advertise. for example, saying 100x loot till your max cc capacity is still either false advertising or plain stupid.
darian just clarified what we would get, he didn't erase the false advert. only a minority of players come on forums, for those who dont, its a blatant false advertise.
http://i67.tinypic.com/207mgea.png
I got this much loot but my Treasury can't hold all of it.
Can anyone suffer like me.
How to solve this preblem.
At least you get a full treasurie
http://i67.tinypic.com/207mgea.png
I got this.same like before,but can't save full loot in Treasury.
Hope COC solve this problem.
There are 2 types of response to this thread
1 the people who feel that the description of 4 x loot can be described as disingenuous as it is impossible to attain
2. The independent mods and gasps who don’t see any problem with it.
Thats a huge generalization and assumption which is also inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
Indeed ..... I'm far from being Mod or Gasp.... and I don't see a problem either.:smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
A little better, but it's still not a dichotomy. It's not exactly as advertised for the winners, but I'm having a really hard time being upset about winning 3.6M/18K loot for two attacks, when I normally only get 1.6M/8K. Call me crazy, I dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
Meh. I'm neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
I am not a mod or gasp and I don't see what is the big deal with this thing. My clanmates feel the same way I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
I'm a GASP and I see a problem with it. SC have had a few blunders this week were people haven't got something they thought (maybe erroneously) that they were going to get. These kind of things tend to cause upset all out of proportion to the amounts involved. Noone has lost anything significant, but it's bad PR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
The CC one though it seems to me that the alternative was to offer 2x loot. I suspect increasing cc capacity would need some code rewriting, certainly on the server and maybe on the client. And that's not gonna happen for a simple offer. However, even though my CC overflowed, i did get more than 2x bonus (slightly). So jumping up and down and yelling at SC that they should only have given us 2x loot doesnt actually gain me anything. It's silly, but i haven't lost out against any realistic alternative scenario.
I’m a gasp and I don’t fit in #2 and have stated as much. I think it was not well described. I think it would be better if it was described better. In fact, I’ve stated even better yet would be to have expanded our treasury to actually hold the 4x loot. That way it benefits the winners of wars more than the losers of war. On the other hand, I HAVE said it isn’t a huge deal to me. That is because I didn’t change the way I play at all. I tried to win the war we won yesterday the same no matter how much loot I was getting. I received a full maxed out treasury, which was nice. 4x loot would’ve been even better, but it isn’t a huge deal to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rst
But you do get his point onyx, allthough he didnt really set up the categories correctly, Its as you have described before a general tide of negativity broken up by the occasional red or blue badge (i belive you described it as tiggery enthusiasm in one thread long ago). While in this case theirs nothing tiggery about their responses, and I actually agree with the gasps and mods that the outrage over getting a full treasury is a bit of a head scratcher, Its still the identical pattern you see in every anger rent type thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxDS
I totally get their is a significant amount of self selection in terms of level headedness, positivity, thoughtfullness that will mean the mods/gasps will naturally be less angry and salty, BUT seeing it thread after thread wether the gripe is reasonable (builders base, builder base only clan games) or arguably unreasonable like this one, created the impression the gasps and mods act first to defend supercell and second to engage in sincere discourse.
I kinda creates an alienation of the red/blue crew from the average forumer, allthough Im not saying overall the goal to have a more reasonable and positive forum is in any way bad, i do question If waves of positivity and "Its not a big deal" mod/gasp crew that tries to reign in this negative threads actually attains this goal, or If it simply antagonises the grumpsters and fans the flames.
His point is more that most mod gasps who comment say something along the lines of "come on it isnt a big deal" or "your still getting a huge war bonus quit yer bellyaching" or something to that general effect. Gets a little eye rolling to see it in every rant thread after a while, even in cases like this where I fully agree with your side.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
Hes not calling you crazy, hes calling you biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiler
But that isn’t what he said. He said mods and gasps see no problem with it, when multiple posts have clearly stated otherwise. However, you are correct that many have pointed out it isn’t a big deal because, in the opinion of many, it isn’t a big deal. Generally, you will see those “not a big deal” posts, at least from me, in response to people who go overboard posting about how this is a huge deal, a great big conspiracy by SC, a terrible loss, etc. as though this is actually something very important. Those who think it is a huge deal are welcome to jump into the debate and justify their position rather than just posting something negative about SC stealing from them and then leaving the conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
His point, i am assuming, while not well articulated, was that game specialists and mods can be predicted to enter these anger threads trying to diminish the opinions and feelings of those in the thread. While Im fully on board that in this case Its kinda ridiculas, but in other threads its not and the same pattern emerges.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
Again, the fact that there is a pattern is not a big deal Iether, my first point is to try explain what he percieves, and my second is to say that i think it just makes people angrier, as their is a weak inference that people are being silly, and by extension may have silly judgement.
The same could be said about your statement, because I agree with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
technically, because rst used hyperbole, his dychotimy was incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellimist325
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Originally Posted by 2222
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Originally Posted by 2222
I started reading through the thread again and got to these posts of mine at around #175. I gave up after that. In the 170ish posts before that I saw a LOT of players telling others that it wasn’t a big deal, not to complain, etc. and only one such post from a gasp that would fall in that category and his post was politely stated. Player after player telling other players not to complain, but not from gasps or mods. Then I offered these two opinions around the same time and my opinion has stayed the same throughout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
I think it is good for mods, gaps and other players to try to bring some perspective to posts that go too far suggesting something is a huge deal when it really isn’t, or at least to state their opinion that it isn’t. The other players can certainly explain why they think it is a huge deal. I don’t see that here at all, though. If those players are angry because they think their stated opinion is justified, why not try to justify it?
I think there's a big self-selection about who posts, however. It's only the players who've got upset who post. That's not necessarily how all players feel. I happened to see on one of the discord servers today a few comments that were fiercely critical of the players complaining about the quality/quantity of the free stuff they were receiving. Players who don't agree with these sort of rants often just won't post. Whereas badges sometimes feel the need to act as a voice of reason. So there may be a large middle ground, and/or people not behaving according to the perceived split who simply don't post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
It's unfortunate, but I'm not sure it can be avoided, and part of it is just observation bias. I was pretty critical of SC in the threads about the maintenance break conflicting with the last event end and the timer in the completed games screen seeming to give a much longer time to claim rewards than was really the case. But in those threads it was mostly regular forumers defending SC and blaming the player who'd lost out. But I'm not sure anyone notices when that happens. But if a GASP does happen to be defending SC against the mob it stands out.Quote:
I totally get their is a significant amount of self selection in terms of level headedness, positivity, thoughtfullness that will mean the mods/gasps will naturally be less angry and salty, BUT seeing it thread after thread wether the gripe is reasonable (builders base, builder base only clan games) or arguably unreasonable like this one, created the impression the gasps and mods act first to defend supercell and second to engage in sincere discourse.
I kinda creates an alienation of the red/blue crew from the average forumer, allthough Im not saying overall the goal to have a more reasonable and positive forum is in any way bad, i do question If waves of positivity and "Its not a big deal" mod/gasp crew that tries to reign in this negative threads actually attains this goal, or If it simply antagonises the grumpsters and fans the flames.
There's nothing in the GASP rules about saying nice things about SC and we certainly don't always. OTOH it's also true that those who believe all SC staff are actually alien invaders from the planet Zotar and every SC action is part of an evil plot to overthrow mankind... well they probably wouldn't end up on the blue/orange badge teams anyway.
Quartered? I don't think that word means what you think it means...Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackDragonD
Becaue they think that you guys are agents If supercell based on the way you act. I dont agree, i think Its more of the self selection theory, but the general pattern that emerges in every rant thread (that even Onyx has quesrioned describing game specialists foming in against the current with tiggery enthusiasm in that case) makes it look like you guys are biased. Again i dont think thats the case, i do believe you act independantly and are not agents of supercell.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
i struggle to belive you dont see what i mean in general, nor am i convinced you dont agree that that is indee the impression given.
again Its not a big deal, and the conversation is now digressing from the point of the thread. So Ill end it here from my side, not to be rude, but more because i dont want to strat any further from thread topic.
This thread really amuses me. They say it's 4x, but for some of us it won't be. For clans who lose their wars, and for people who need to dip, they may get the 4x, and the rest of us don't. Tell me something though... Were you guys aware of your treasury limitations before this event? Have you ever forgotten to empty your treasury, only to waste all of your war loot, due to it being filled to max capacity? I have. I blamed no one but myself, because I was aware of my treasury's max capacity. This is no different than that. It's the four year anniversary, so it's 4x loot. Is it a lie? You could say that, or you could say that for some people it will be 4x, meaning that it is not a lie, because it will be worth up to 4x.
Think of it like this... You're a child, who is being offered an entire cake. You can eat as much of it as you like, as long as you can finish it in one sitting. Whatever you don't finish, will be thrown away. Do you eat your fill or do you cry about the cake you can't have later?
1 totally agree in this case not all players upset, i find the level of anger obsurd in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxDS
2 agree you need to be a voice for the reasonable majority, but perhaps how you guys go about it could be improved if you want to be effective in that.
3 you are not a normal GASP, you were given role i assume for your incredible knowledge and understanding of issues, not your attitude (allthough Its rational and reasonable, and mostly positive, you are not positive for its own sake)
4 yes many normal players defend supercell, some becaue they feel aligned with forum power structures when they do, others because Its how they feel, the point is when the gasps some in, you can safely bet which way it will be in most cases (possibly for reasons already given by you)
5 everyone knows supercell staff are from Zagarthar, not Zotar, Nice try.
I think I do understand what you are saying, but it must come from those players only paying attention to certain posts. How else could you explain someone reading comments from dozens of players saying it isn’t a big deal but only apparently noticing the few gaps/mods among those dozens that agree (and misstating their opinion to claim they say it isn’t a problem at all, when gasps have said it is a problem, just not a big one). I’m also not convinced those players are angry about people saying it isn’t a big deal and explaining why because I’m not seeing them defend their position and explain why they think it is a big deal. The silence makes me think they instead looked at it from the “not a big deal perspective” and realized, ok, it isn’t great but it isn’t a huge deal. Either that or they just posted their “SC lied to me” post and then didn’t bother to read any other posts or any other part of the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
oh come on now, tell a child he can have 4 cupcakes for desert instead of his usual 1, then give him 2 as Its all that can fit on his plate, and see how happy he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1
supercell raised expectations and didnt deliver, which means they gave people more than they normally had, something they would normally been very happy about, and made some people not happy.
not a big deal, kinda sloppy implementation, life goes on.
That wasn't what happened in this hypothetical example. He can have as much of it as he can eat. There is no need to limit what he piles on his plate. At some point though, he will be full, and there will be no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
That’s my opinion as well. Careful, you are sounding like a badge :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
i know dosens of players said it wasnt a big deal, i was one of them https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post11584696.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
Are you seriously going to deny your from Zotar?
think your confusing badge with badger.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
i dont have anything against the badges, just trying to explain his point and my observations, most of you seam like great guys.
Is he dieting for an MMA fight or not, im lost in analogy land, time to sleep Its 3am.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1
Any update on this issue from COC Leaders ?
I don't really care about the loot since all I'm doing is wall building for the next year or whatever and 2x or 4x doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. What is unsettling is how SC can't even manage a promo event properly and when you put it context it makes one wonder how many more straws can the camel take before its back is broken.
Endless issues with clouds, a worsening AI, the disaster that is builder base, main village being neglected for over a year, engineering/war matchmaking, the list goes on and on. These are the underlying unresolved issues that the player base is really angry about and that anger manifests itself when SC bungles even the simplest things such as this event.
It's clear that SC has lost the trust and confidence of some of their player base and that is an issue they better address or it's only going to keep getting worse.
Yes, Darian added to the original sticky notes that it is 4x but only up to the max of your storage (meaning treasury storage). I took that to mean there isn’t going to be a change and would be surprised if there is a change now given the event is almost over.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhavtr
I suppose so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikingchief
But for some reason, it doesn't actually seem to be noticed when a blue disagrees with the direction something is heading. I'm a guy that likes to see and represent both sides. For example, in this case, I agree with almost everybody in that it's stupid that they would offer quadruple loot and not mention that there wouldn't be an exception for the treasury cap. But I also don't think it's worth the outrage. I told my clan about it, and I can quote the chat for you because it's right here in front of me
Bill: Wouldn't they overstuff it like your resources when you buy something?
Tay: Nope
Bill: Then what's the point. That's a poor job.
Tay: It's pretty stupid for them to advertise 4x without mentioning treasuries can't overflow
On the other hand, it's still a <heck> of a lot more loot than we usually get
And, as losers, out loot is still 4x
Bill: True
It will get me some more wall bits
Then we started talking about how terrible the multi-mortar is and how we need a BoB to even bother with it. But you get the point. You can think something is in poor form without holding a riot over it. And since the GASPs and mods never take part in riots, we tend to stand out in a riot, even when we're agreeing with people. I agree that the lack of mention of no overflow wasn't smart, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
The 4x war xp and bonus. Why have supercell given us alot of bonuses if they cannot provide us all. The max capacity of CC is 3.6M and the bonuses are 6M+ , I was thinking though we donot have enough space, its great time i.e anniversary of WAR, so we will get all bonus but lol NO!
Welcome to forum.As this is free stuff,so no complain from me.keep posting..
Hey there OP, there's an ongoing discussion on this topic here:
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...ury-discussion
Maybe you'll find your answer there :)
With all of this riot, i think next year Supercell should consider not giving player 5x loot in Clan War anniversary.
Maybe they can reward us with Magic Item instead of loot.
Personally, if i were supercel, I'd give us one gem each. Cheap. Easy. And just as likely to cause forum uproar as unlimited gems. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DestroyerHeroine
50 pages. Woo hoo
I'm happy with anything that's for free, be it loot, gems or magic items :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Piper139