War event treasury discussion

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

Nothing has been confirmed and no, nothing like this has happened before. Still, the event has expired and only wars that began before the event ended are still eligible. It'd be unfair for SC to come back allow it now having not allowed all the previous war participates to overflow.

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We have had events like this before if I remember correctly. I only lost 800k and 4k dark nothing a few raids can't slove.

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Originally Posted by Crash321

We have had events like this before if I remember correctly. I only lost 800k and 4k dark nothing a few raids can't slove.

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We've not had a 4x war bonus event. 2x, yes, but not 4x.

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Originally Posted by Piper139

From the very first time I saw the 4x loot, I saw that it would overflow. Treasury has never been able to overflow in any case before now. Sure,it could have been worded better. However, it's a minor thing. If you get that worked up over it, you really need a break.

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I have had my treasury over filled quite a few times from packs
So I thought it would have happened now
I feel they could have done it , why advertise something as a big deal

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Originally Posted by GUBLIN

I have had my treasury over filled quite a few times from packs
So I thought it would have happened now
I feel they could have done it , why advertise something as a big deal

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You've had your storage overflow from shop packs. Not your treasury. There's a distinction to be made there. No one's treasury has ever overflowed for any reason

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

We've not had a 4x war bonus event. 2x, yes, but not 4x.

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Well i dont think we will get a second one unless they us have it all as they dont want a repeat of this again.

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Originally Posted by SharkyFinn

Is this another one of your "facts" because it seems to run counter to what you literally posted.



Do you have actual experience on which you're basing these statements? I've met the employees at Supercell and I can say from first-hand experience that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. As long as you keep passing off the warped lessons you learned in business 101 as actual facts about actual real-world people that you've never met and likely never will, you shouldn't be giving anyone a reality check.

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Yes Sharky - plenty of experience on which I base my statements - thanks for asking. I have interacted with support many times that left me shaking my head in disgust with their responses - ofc I cannot post those interactions here. I have dealt with mods - on a personal level that left me wondering if they had a clue about how elitist they sound and act. If you actually read what I posted originally you will see I never complained or even stated SC was greedy - they are part of a mega corporation that has one focus - CASH - that is a fact - look at their financial reports. I am not against this fact, it is just a fact. I was responding to people who are upset for the way the community seems to be ignored much of the time - especially if they do not toe the party line. We should have zero expectation of anything from Super Cell unless it is for their profit - that is what they do! What excuse did they give for not fixing the hero regen issue of the past - too much work/money? What excuse do they give for not fixing current issues - too much work/money - it is not cost effective to them to actually fix clouding and other issues people are complaining about on the forums. As has been stated many times - we are a very small portion of the SC customer base and the profits they get from the majority of customers is the single fact that drives their corporate decisions. I have no doubt good people and even great and kind people work for SC - but that does not change the corporate identity nor the basis for business decisions. CSR is relatively new in the business world but, CSR is a thing only because it brings in the cash flow. Companies change direction, focus, sometimes entire models based on where the profits are.

really xc3xx1v30ne - no need for personal attacks just because you do not agree. As a matter of, I know from personal experience that making a broad statement that implies people who do not think like you are wrong or altered is an actionable event per the Mods themselves - so a report has been made. Of course, since your impression matches the company line I am pretty sure nothing will happen. - see - another example of elitism if my guess is correct. If I am wrong I will gladly apologize.

What we need to understand is that SC is a corporation with the goal of bringing in cash. They do not have to care what you or I think or say unless it actually affects their bottom line. I see customer comments and complaints on a regular basis and yes, we make decisions to change based on the cost-effectiveness of that change. If a small number (proportionally) have a certain complaint that the majority does not seem to share - zero change is made. Really - imo, this is a smart business and common sense decision.

Again, let me state, for the record - I am happy SC make hundreds of millions of dollars - it is what is needed so I can keep playing a game I love. I do not love or even like many of the decisions made by SC the corporation, including the rules of this forum, but I do love CoC - I really can't even stand candy clash but, since it is part of CoC I deal with it. It is okay for me to be a realist and not fall all over myself in adoration for a FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION. I can enjoy part and not like parts as well - I call it being well rounded.

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Originally Posted by Tiler

You've had your storage overflow from shop packs. Not your treasury. There's a distinction to be made there. No one's treasury has ever overflowed for any reason

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True there is a distinction
Are you saying they SC coud not overflow them ?okay fill my storages with my loot that was awarded for my participation.
It was billed 4x loot and xp. whats the point of 4x loot
It seems it was not
Call it what you want mate its just POOR
Cheers

Everyone upset with over flowing treasuries must be thrilled now that we are back with good old 1-1 war bonus and don't need to worry about filling up our treasury with a single war victory.

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

It's fine to complain about the misleading nature of the event, but absolutely no one should be complaining about the actual loot received.

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This leads me to my thoughts on this:

IMHO the amount of loot lost (/not given/promised/insert word here) isn't the real issue here. The 'be happy you still got full treasury' advice here is just attacking the strawman. Can I personally look on the bright side about the loot and hence full treasury I received?... Yes.

It's a question of Supercell's integrity here. About misleading its players. Saying one thing but not quite being true to their word. Am I satisfied with the amount of Supercell's response that in my obviously limited perspective I can see? So far, no.

From what I understand these forums exist to promote discussion (both positive and negative as long it's polite and within the rules), hence this suggests that we have the ability to complain/critique/disagree (again, within the limits of the forum rules).

And so here I will consider the issue at hand:

Saying 4x war loot (in my case taking ~3mil gold for example) and not getting that loot (In my case ~2mil gold, a loss/non-existence/again-insert-word-here of ~1 mil) is still not getting 4x loot and (what I'm using logic to say here is that it) is therefore misleading.

The onus IMHO appears to be on Supercell.

I think it's a fair assumption to say that Supercell has the capacity to do at least the absolute minimum to make it up to players.
There are examples of others which do things all the time in response to all number of inconveniences and mistakes that affect players that are their fault (I won't go further/say who in accordance with Main Forum rule 6 on here).

Do I think Supercell should do something? IMHO yes, I think that it would be a courtesy to players. The loot amounts shouldn't be the premise upon which to make it up to people, it should be integrity.
I think even more so if this has happened before (I have no way of knowing if it has but I'm simply stating).

Overall, I'm disappointed that this has happened with no apparent consequence (again, in my limited perspective) but I'm still going to play the game etc. However, the relative significance/insignificance of the issue doesn't change my opinion on its injustice.

(I feel the need to make it clear again that all the above is just me expressing my current opinion on this within my obviously limited perspective, and I mean no impoliteness towards Supercell or anyone here therein. Clash on :thumbsup:)

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Originally Posted by TheRealPekkaMaster

This leads me to my thoughts on this:

IMHO the amount of loot lost (/not given/promised/insert word here) isn't the real issue here. The 'be happy you still got full treasury' advice here is just attacking the strawman. Can I personally look on the bright side about the loot and hence full treasury I received?... Yes.

It's a question of Supercell's integrity here. About misleading its players. Saying one thing but not quite being true to their word. Am I satisfied with the amount of Supercell's response that in my obviously limited perspective I can see? So far, no.

From what I understand these forums exist to promote discussion (both positive and negative as long it's polite and within the rules), hence this suggests that we have the ability to complain/critique/disagree (again, within the limits of the forum rules).

And so here I will consider the issue at hand:

Saying 4x war loot (in my case taking ~3mil gold for example) and not getting that loot (In my case ~2mil gold, a loss/non-existence/again-insert-word-here of ~1 mil) is still not getting 4x loot and (what I'm using logic to say here is that it) is therefore misleading.

The onus is on Supercell.

I think it's a fair assumption to say that Supercell has the capacity to do at least the absolute minimum to make it up to players.
There are examples of others which do things all the time in response to all number of inconveniences and mistakes that affect players that are their fault (I won't go further/say who in accordance with Main Forum rule 6 on here).

Do I think Supercell should do something? IMHO yes, I think that it would be a courtesy to players. The loot amounts shouldn't be the premise upon which to make it up to people, it should be integrity.
I think even more so if this has happened before (I have no way of knowing if it has but I'm simply stating).

Overall, I'm disappointed that this has happened with no consequence but I'm still going to play the game etc. However, the relative significance/insignificance of the issue doesn't change my opinion on its injustice.

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Well written and thought out. I don't mind that it doesn't overflow. However, clarification in the release notes and in the in game news should have have occurred before it started. That's all that was needed. We lost our first war so I got all the loot. 2nd is looking good so will lose some. No big. I don't feel like supercel owes me anything but a sorry for the confusion would be nice.