Definition of a good raid for farmer

All the loot chains got me thinking what do we actually consider a good raid or a great raid lootwise? Without lootbonus/penalty the maximum loot that we can get is 198K from storages and 450K from maxed mines/collectors. Th10 with their extra mine and collector add to this another 75K each. For the mines/collectors to be full they need 50 hours of uninterrupted work time. Most likely the base would be hit before this as those mines/collectors are a tempting target long before they are even half full.

As a th8 I do not pay any attention to elixir as that takes care of itself quite nicely anyway. The situation where the target would have both storages over a million and full mines/collectors is quite rare so a realistic measuring stick might be just mines/collectors. This gives me a gold maximum of 450K or 525K before loot bonus/penalty.

When farming I use 80 barbs+80 archers and 40 goblins. With this combo I do not raid anything under 100K gold and depending on wall levels go or skip the base if most of the loot is in storages. Great raid is anything where I can take away 200K gold. Bigger raids of 300K+ are a jackpot of maybe 1/300, while 400K+ raids can be counted easily with one hand. Normally can find raidable base with in 10-15 click of next.

Usually end using the whole raiding party as want to penetrate the base also to get loot from collectors. With quicker raids being a nice bonus sometimes. Perhaps could be more conservative with troop usage.

Th8 my definitions:
Normal raid: 100K+
Good raid: 150K+
Great raid: 200K+
Rare raid: 300K+
Record raid: 400K+

So what are your definitions?

Th8:
200k normal
300k above average
400k a nice lil boost
500 now we talkin
700k record

As a TH9 Farmer using BAM I would say...

100k or more is a decent raid
150k or more is a good raid
200k or more is a great raid
and anything over 300k is a jackpot

I am usually able to find at least 100k to raid within about 10 to 20 nexts (although as any farmer knows this changes up or down from day to day). For me volume of raids is much more important than getting the big jackpots every raid as the smaller scores will start to add up quickly.

I get the sense from some of these loot threads that people may be aiming a lot higher than me.

TH8:
200K - Normal
300K - Normal+
400K - A bit rare
500K - rare

TH10 (without loot bonus) @ 2400-2600 range

150k - Meh..below average
200k - Average
250k - Good raid
300k - Great raid
400k - 500k - On FIRE!!!
600k - Once in a month
722k - Personal record

Th8
100k- what's wrong with loot?
150k- decent raid
200k- average raid
300k- good raid
400k- great raid
500k- BE JEALOUS
600k- maybe once every 2 months
700k- record

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Originally Posted by bighowie83

TH10 (without loot bonus) @ 2400-2600 range

150k - Meh..below average
200k - Average
250k - Good raid
300k - Great raid
400k - 500k - On FIRE!!!
600k - Once in a month
722k - Personal record

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Im th10, agree

Maxed TH9 working on walls and heroes around 1600-1800. My general rules are:

If I can make 200k gold profit and no DE, it's a fine raid.
If I can pickup 1600 DE and no gold, it's a fine raid.
Any mix of the above (say 100k gold and 800 DE) is also a fine raid.
A fraction of the above that requires only a few troops (say 100k gold with half my troops), is also a fine raid.

Mike

TH9 only considering loot I can steal

Gold
150 acceptable if i won't need all my troops
200 decent
250 good
300 very good
400 great
500+ awesome

DE
1000 acceptable if I won't need all my troops
1500 decent
2000 good
3000 very good
4000 great
5000+ awesome

I define my raids based on loot per troop slot used. In general I consider 1k gold per troop slot used to be good at TH10.

I believe the definition of a good farmer is based off how much loot you raid per hour. I hear people make 1m+ using BAM and I guess that's good for farming gold.

i'm not a gold person btw, you can see me lurking around near your DE storage :P

150-200k normal
200+ solid
250+ pretty good
300+ great
350+ awesome
400+ Yeah!
500+ Very rare.

As a th 9 i find 200k average
250k good
300k great
350k amazing
400k record
all are each supply of course

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Originally Posted by Glaciesvir

All the loot chains got me thinking what do we actually consider a good raid or a great raid lootwise? Without lootbonus/penalty the maximum loot that we can get is 198K from storages and 450K from maxed mines/collectors. Th10 with their extra mine and collector add to this another 75K each. For the mines/collectors to be full they need 50 hours of uninterrupted work time. Most likely the base would be hit before this as those mines/collectors are a tempting target long before they are even half full.

As a th8 I do not pay any attention to elixir as that takes care of itself quite nicely anyway. The situation where the target would have both storages over a million and full mines/collectors is quite rare so a realistic measuring stick might be just mines/collectors. This gives me a gold maximum of 450K or 525K before loot bonus/penalty.

When farming I use 80 barbs+80 archers and 40 goblins. With this combo I do not raid anything under 100K gold and depending on wall levels go or skip the base if most of the loot is in storages. Great raid is anything where I can take away 200K gold. Bigger raids of 300K+ are a jackpot of maybe 1/300, while 400K+ raids can be counted easily with one hand. Normally can find raidable base with in 10-15 click of next.

Usually end using the whole raiding party as want to penetrate the base also to get loot from collectors. With quicker raids being a nice bonus sometimes. Perhaps could be more conservative with troop usage.

Th8 my definitions:
Normal raid: 100K+
Good raid: 150K+
Great raid: 200K+
Rare raid: 300K+
Record raid: 400K+

So what are your definitions?

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Mine would be around the same as yours, except a record raid would be like 600k

TH9 Using BAM (Gold)
100k-Alright
150k-Average
200k-Good
250k-Great
300k-Wow
400k-Amazing
500k-Rare
600k-Super rare
700k-Record

TH8:

100k gold - total fail
150k gold - bad
200k gold - decent
300k gold - nice
400k gold - dayum son
500k gold - YEEEAAAAA

TH9 barch

1,200 gold/1 troop capacity is considered as a good raid

So for example 150k gold with 100 troops is good but 150k with 150 troops is below average.

On a purely loot basis it the troops used per loot received. Like a 200K can be a wonderful raid for me if I only spend 5,000 in elixir to get it. However, for full blow attacks.

Gold/Elixir Totals (I'm Th9)
200K - alright if I didn't have to use everything to get it (heros and spells)
300K - Average, solid but nothing to sing about
400K - Pretty good, solid.
500K - A good find, and in the great category
600K+ - Awesome.


But let me back track, I can all in 300K and not think its a great raid. I may even do it at a cost of 30,000 elixir. That's because it may of taken no skill.


Personally I think a great farming raid is one that gets that insane loot total with some actual tactics and strategy. For example I got a 300-400K raid as a TH8 off of a Th9 with maxed mortar fire. That I am way more proud of than a 400K raid with 2000 DE to boot that was just a collector raid. Particularly an easy one.


With DE I haven't readjusted my mindset but as a TH8

500 DE - acceptable if it did not require my full force
1000 DE - solid if it didn't require high tier troops (if I get it Barching its good)
2000 DE - A solid raid, awesome if done Barching
3000+ DE - Unless I spent allot of DE to get this amount, then it is awesome no matter what!


Most high total DE raids are pretty good. Everyone once in a while I luck out on a Th10 that has some undefended drills for 2000-3000 DE

For me at th10 this is my ranking

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100k-150k normal raid, 150-250k above normal, 250-300k good raid, 300k-400k once every couple hours, 400k-500k great raid. 500+ very great raid.

Normal Raid: 100k
Good Raid: 200k
Great Raid: 300k
Rare Raid: 400k
Personal best: 475k

As a TH9 supreme farmer:

100k: poverty
150k: poverty
200k: still poverty
250k: poverty like in circa 1995 Zimbabwe
300k: poverty
350k: bob geldof would organise a charity event for such poverty
400k: poverty
500k: meh

This.......

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Mark

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Originally Posted by Jiggy82

As a TH9 Farmer using BAM I would say...

100k or more is a decent raid
150k or more is a good raid
200k or more is a great raid
and anything over 300k is a jackpot

I am usually able to find at least 100k to raid within about 10 to 20 nexts (although as any farmer knows this changes up or down from day to day). For me volume of raids is much more important than getting the big jackpots every raid as the smaller scores will start to add up quickly.

I get the sense from some of these loot threads that people may be aiming a lot higher than me.

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Yeah... I am a th9 BAM farmer and 300k is average, 400k is good, 500k is really good, and 800k is record.
CashClash22

100k - Usually skip, but I will take if it's in the collectors and I can get it with a few goblins
200k - Good
300k - Great
400k - Legendary
960k - Record

TH9

As I expected the levels of what ppl consider good varie a lot. Starts to explain also the lootchains if you consider the norm to be 1M gold per hour when someone else is happy with 0.5M of gold per hour. Naturally there are variables in this as your th, the targets th, trophy count and pure luck added with your gamong hours and geographical location.

Makes you wonder what would be the ideal timing for raiding? Guess we would have to know where is the highest number of high th players geographically and then it would be a simple thing to calculate what time I should raid so that I would hit those guys around the end of their sleep cycle. This would not score those record raids, but it would offer a richer field as there still would be the production from 6-12 hours waiting to be picked.

It would not give away any big business secret if Supercell would show some stats like the percentage distribution of th-levels, how players are spread by trophycount or activity levels during the day. All could be done in percentage to each pther so we would not know the total number of players etc.

I aim as a TH9 that's a long way from maxed…
200K gold or 1000DE (Elixir is a joke and anyone complaining about spells costing elixir should be summarily e-executed for stupidity)….I raid every 10 mins or so when raiding as I use full 6 Rax BAM.
Most of the time the 1000DE bases have at least a decent w♥♥♥♥ of gold and the 200K Gold bases have at least 300+ DE..

This way I tend to log on and do 3-4 raids at a time…make around 400-700K gold and anywhere from 1-4K DE profit (I might do 6 of these 30 minutes bursts on avg per day). It's enough to keep 5 builders more than busy and keep my lab and heroes upgrading.

I see all the threads complaining about loot, I can't RELATE to the complainants at all as I still see collector bases about as regularly as I ever have….but I sure hope supercell listens to their whining, because anything that makes it easier to max things out to the level I want…the sooner I can stop purely farming and enjoy trophy hunting more often.

Funny as I was writing this post…it extended my 30 minute frame to 37mins…but the haul from the 3 raids was..
646K gold
350K Elix
1450 DE
Used one rage in 3 raids …..and 290 barbs 240 Arch 26 minions
Oh I did go +15,+8 and - 31 on trophies too so I might look to snipe the odd TH or two if that trend continued…but they generally aren't hard to find to keep the trophy range where I want it.. (Gold 2-ish)

That is incredibly standard so I don't know what the complaints are for regarding loot..

Anything 150-250k per raid I am usually happy with.

Less and I am disappoint, more and I am ecstatic.

At TH8 and TH9.

Below 180k-Pathetic
200k-alright
250k-Decent
350-Joygasm

It's not a matter of absolute values but of return on investment. 100k gold from 25 troops is a far better raid than 300k from 220 troops and 4 spells. Also consider the cost of how many searches you have to do. For me, the gold standard for farming is 2k gold per housing unit. If you get that or better, it was a good raid!