https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...t-special-.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...t-special-.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
I have several unhappy players in both clans. Don’t understand the point if they won’t let us have it.
It doesn't really clarify why you think they "deserve" it. It perhaps indicates why you think SC should be having a different free loot bonus event than what they are having, but that is different than suggesting players "deserve" to have their loot exceed the treasury cap. It is clear SC could allow it to exceed the cap, but this event doesn't. The event is 5 x up to the max of your treasury. The players that get free loot up to the max of their treasury are getting exactly what the event is designed to give them.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Did they not play last year? It'd not a big deal. You get a full treasury. Enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrh
Alright alright alright! Let's get a Technical Timeline here because this is a forum and everyone's point of view "Clashes!" (Also because individual words & sentences are always dissected instead of the actual issue at hand.)
The Issue:
1.) A Task on the Players Graphical User Interface states that a Player will receive "10 Million" Rewards if completed successfully.
2.) A Player completes the Task and their User Interface states they did in fact earn "10 Million" Rewards from that Task.
3.) A Player only receives "4.6 Million / 10 Million" Rewards because that is their Reward Storage Limit.
The Plee:
4.) Player voices frustration because the Task stated "10 Million" Rewards & they only received "4.6 Million" Rewards.
5.) Player compares Purchased Tasks that allow "10 Million" Rewards to be successfully given and surpass the "4.6 Million" Reward Storage Limit because to their full comprehension, that's the only time they've seen where Rewards can exceed the Limit.
Suggested Resolutions:
6.) "Be grateful for what you got."
7.) "Purchased Tasks allow it because it is an Exchange."
8.) "At least it's better than normal."
9.) “Why do you think that you should actually receive the entire amount of what your User Interface states you will receive?”
The Resolution(s):
10.) Please don't advertise Rewards that cannot be obtained by completing the Tasks needed to obtain them stated on our Graphical User Interfaces.
11.) Implement a way to obtain the Rewards our Graphical User Interfaces are stating we obtained after we completed the Tasks you stated we needed to do in order to obtain them.
I have an easy way to get all of your 5X which my clan successfully did. We lost the war and our reduced bonus X5 fit in our clan castles. Problem solved. Thank you SuperCell.
I agree the lost loot from the 5x clan league wars should be added to the season bank or simply as an overflow like in a special offer shop purchase added to your regular storages. Many people are disappointed in the wasted loot, as they should be. An event that won’t allow anyone to fully optimize the rewards is preposterous.
(UPDATE)
For $4.99 you can now access your full 5x rewards earnings.
With regard to the clan levels, it has been long overdue to rebalance and add an additional 10 levels.
Did they not play last year? It'd not a big deal. You get a full treasury. Enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rrh
Dead horse. Flogged into subatomic particles. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiori
To be promised something & not get it just plain sux!
So after doing some calculations, I believe there was a mix up in the code to actually get the rewards to work. Because the CWL is already 2x bonus the 5x bonus was stacked on top making it a 10x bonus when it shouldn’t be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vaganzza
The clan I am in has a 3.6 mil cap, but my other clan is 4.6 mil cap on the treasury.
The war is in the 3.6 mil cap.
If I am in the 4.6 mil cap clan.. will I get 4.6 mil, or 3.6 mil
:P
lol sounds almost like a riddle, but genuine question.
No one promised you anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jillyben
Did I state that I or anyone else is/was special? No I did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyIrishman
I did state that SC initiated a special event.
Where in my statement did I state that anyone was special? No where.
SC decided to initiate a special event, therefore, it stands to reason that the players ought to receive the full benefit of said special event.
This has nothing to do with anyone being or not being special. The event itself is a special event.
You said, "They deserve". What exactly did you do to deserve it?Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Hint the answer is nothing.
The reason is easy. I see it and I want it. Why the hack are they tepmpting me when I want finishing my wall asap. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by fiori
regardless of how anyone views it, it's false advertising to create more traffic. They get more people warring, but don't deliver on their end
People would be in war no matter what, don't kid yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestout1
5x bonus is NOT 5x the win bonus, but usually enough to fill up your Treasury no matter if you win or lose.
Besides.. an overflowing Treasury shouldn't be a new occurance. It certainly isn't for maxed players :-)
/Affront
people might be in war yes, but prizes like extra loot create more traffic. and any way you slice it, overflow or not. It's false advertising.It said i was going to get over 8 mil in loot, i 3 starred a TH 12 and my treasury capps at over 3 mil..
people have the right to be upset
Quote:
Originally Posted by Affront
Players "deserve" it because supercell offered it as a benefit for a certain achievement! Next time your employer offers to give you a bonus for a task and then only gives you half. Are you going to say you agree with the boss? Or are you going to say you "deserve" it?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
Put bonus in treasury, and special offer bonus in storages! Problem solved!
Max players would still lose some. My dark storage usually full. But still have some walls so the other would be appreciated!
Suppose you lost that war. You would still get most of your storage filled.thats was the intention loot for everyone no matter win or lose. The only downside might be is that cwl is going on and folks who can not war due to being a lower th will not get rewards. So I expect them to be unhappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestout1
I would sure be in the 4.6 clan at wars end to find out!Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Guys......... come on.....
the calculation and thought process was simply that everyone will get a full treasury through the event as even if you lose a war you will get a nice lump of loot.
be thankful... yesterday you were not expecting anything and now you want everything.....
We won our last war in CWL and I had 20 mil of gold/elixer (combined) in war bonus and i lost it all as my treasury is full, storages are full and builders busy .. am i moaning? nope....move on....
This entire thread is full of straw-man fallacy everywhere (where one changes the opposition's argument to make it weaker and therefore easier to beat)
There is no 'entitlement' that any of us have declared we have when saying that the treasury should ideally overflow.
Some also include ad hominem (where you attack the person rather than the argument itself)
There is no point in aggressively calling people whiners or something like that if they disagree with you and it achieves nothing
Just a practical question: does any know if the 5x bonus applies to wars STARTED within the event period, or must they be COMPLETED before it ends? Our CWL finishes today, so we could immediately kick off a regular war which would be fought during the last hours of the event but would finish after it ends. Will we get the bonus or not?
My guess is not, but I thought I’d ask, if only to make a change from all the ‘it’s so unfair’ / ‘stop moaning and be grateful’ “debate” :)
I hate to be that guy but.. do we get the 5x loot if the war finishes after the event?
I think no one would have received the 5X war loot.
https://i.imgur.com/74sSr7x.jpg
here is the loot i was expecting
https://i.imgur.com/MDp0bkP.jpg
here is what i got.
Now if SC says it's limited by the treasury limit then what's the use of such events.
If the war has started during the event, it will give the extra loot when the war ends [or at least that has been the case in earlier events like these]Quote:
Originally Posted by AxsMan
Yes [or at least that has been the case in earlier events like these]Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGame1
Thanks for the answer, hope you’re right! :)
And this needed yet another post, because? There is an ongoing discussion in other threads...
What's the use of another thread when there are already many there.
suggestion to this type of event name:
"win or lose - get full treasury"
this can solve the frustration of those who "lose" 29K de (when they win cwl for 56K but can hold only 27K in treasury)
What did I do to deserve the 5X loot bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyIrishman
I completed a successful attack in war plus my clan won said war.
Is that nothing? Had I not used my attack; THAT would be nothing.
In regards to starting the event? I had nothing to do with that.
SC initiated the event, so it is a reasonable and logical expectation to receive the full benefit of said event.
This is quite clearly simple reason and logic.
@Kannukanhashubhang there is no need to repeat the same reply someone already did
In what thread? I see lots of people saying this without a link to thread in question. I cannot find it, it seems more people cannot find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusMe
A smart moderator would see the flames this topic makes and would make a sticky about the subject. *HINT*
Really really well said. Great analogy. Like I said originally I didn’t want to sound ungrateful; but let’s call something what it is rather than call it something that it’s not. It’s just false advertising and caused people to get excited for something they can’t even take advantage of. Out CWL ends soon. And even if we start a war immediately, prep day and the first 20 hours of war day fall with in the event, but the event ends before the war day will end. So we probably won’t get the bonus unless we are the lucky 15 in CWL at the top and most developed of our clan who need the loot the leastQuote:
Originally Posted by Crusher0029
It’s posted on the previous page (twice!) that if your war STARTS during the event you will get the bonus even if the event finished before your war ends. I don’t know if that is correct, but the poster says that’s what happend the last time they ran this event so it’s likely to be the case. I hope so, because we are going to start a war 7 hours from now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndresSalv
You can’t see the (many) other threads discussing (moaning) about this? As my wife would say ‘are you looking with your eyes open’? :D
Yes, I see many threads. And all with the answer: see the thread where the discussion is. I can't find the tree in a forest full of trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxsMan
See my hint.
Stickies are usually started by SC with some form of announcement or sharing of information. It isn't often that a thread started by someone who is inconvenienced by not getting what they want or think they deserve, will be stickied. When a post starts out negative, quite often the follow-up [or responses] will be that way as well, and it won't really have a good bases for discussion. The first thread about this topic started out differently [why is there no event] but as soon as the event started, several other threads were merged into that one, so I do think that one could be taken as the main thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by Freshspown
However, there's no reason at all to keep on creating new threads on the topic when there are quite a few already on the exact same thing....
A few examples:
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...iversary-event
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...520-Loot-bonus
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...iversary-event
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...iversary-Event
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...X-Loot-sort-of
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...-clan-xp-event
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...an-t-hold-it-a
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...war-loot-bonus
and yes, some of these have been closed....
The thread you are looking for is here - it's up to 30 pages now, and all similar threads have been merged into it:
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post12162388
The answer as stated in that thread:
You are getting 2x loot for CWL attacks. They have multiplied this by 5, so you will get 10x loot.
If you win the war, your treasury will probably be full (and the excess lost)
If you draw the war, your treasury will probably be full (and the excess lost)
If you lose the war, your treasury will be nearly full
Either way, just empty your treasury before war ends, and most likely it will be filled again with bonus loot
It's a bonus. Something free. Probably therefore not worth complaining about!
why promote something that you can't get or attain, as per other years, very disappointed with their handling of this they say absolutely nothing
Its simply a "truth in advertising" thing. Dont sell it as 5X loot event when it never will be for the winners. Sell it as something else like a "Full Treasury Every War!" event, or an "Up To 5X Loot" event where they explain its still capped by your CC capacity.
If you tell people they will get X, but know that half the people will only get .4X - then you're setting yourself up for criticism of your customer bases - which is just dumb business.
I contacted support, and their answer was about it fills not goes over... yet the gold pass which you pay for or other packs well exceed storage. SO if you pay, you can exceed storage, if not, they cap it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tubs590u
Now if they only just had posted this right at the beginning...Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyValker
Me personally, I have no problem with the loot being capped. I have a problem with the way it is being communicated, to me it is common sense that people would complain about this. I do not get why a moderator would not create one sticky with this information in it. Is it so inconceivable that this would cause a lot of people to ask the same question over and over?
It is this kind of sloppiness that is irritating.
that it is a complete different topic. the war bonus is for everyone same. it will not overflow the cc treasury.Quote:
Originally Posted by thestout1
the other thing you talk about is the season bank. the seasonbank will get to your storages and not cc. no matter if you pay the gold oass or not - it will overflow your storages if you have not enough space beacause it is so much and you cant claim it by yourself.
In short, you cannot receive more loot than your treasury can hold. Although I don't like that it doesn't overflow during events like these, it is what it is
Well obviously SC could have changed something in the code that the cc would overflow. But they didn't. Is it a big issue? No. Is it annoying? Yeah. Will anybody talk about this in a week time? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by wotanwaton
They probably should add a line to say that it will be capped to what your treasury is able to hold. Still with CWL every day you will max out your treasury with loot, this game is so, so easy compared to a few years back yet people still moan constantly.
So we did not get the 5x loot.. We won yesterday and our clan mates were so eager to spend only waiting for them was just a full treasury not 5x loot....They protested on the clan we told go back to war for the next day or you be fired...:)
I am sure there is perfect reason why 5x loot was not rewarded.....Clash on.....
people have the right to be upset, or not be upset either is fineQUOTE=Freshspown;12164260]Well obviously SC could have changed something in the code that the cc would overflow. But they didn't. Is it a big issue? No. Is it annoying? Yeah. Will anybody talk about this in a week time? No.[/QUOTE]
No still not a good analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusher0029
You're in the desert and Supercell is giving you a bottle of water for you to collect rainwater. Then they let it rain 5x more than usual. Winners of clan wars will fill their bottles well before it stops raining, while losers of wars are unable to completely fill their bottles (but almost full!) before it stops raining.
SC never promised you that the loot would overflow your treasury cap. That rarely happens. It didn't happen the same time last year. When it does happen (rarely) it is usually connected to paying money for it. You didn't pay money for this. No one promised you the loot would go over your cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jillyben
Players are receiving the full benefit of the event, which is to give 5 x loot up to the cap of the treasury. You just want the event to be something different than it is, which is a fine opinion to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
No, SC didn't offer what you claim. SC never said we'd get to overflow our cap. If my employer says you get to have 5 x your usual rate up to a max of X and I get X I will be getting exactly what I deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMotator
EPIC FAIL BY SUPERCELL!!!! They mark the Anniversary by advertising 10X loot bonus, but it is ALL WASTED since NO TREASURY can hold it. Right now I am looking at a loot bonus for a round in clan war league that is OVER 10 million in gold and elixir and my maxed treasury can only hold 4.6! Hey Darian, YOU BLEW IT!
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Maybe next time Supercell shouldn't give any loot bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
Or, they could remember to allow overflow. You know, LIKE THEY DO for offers from the store.
The Clan Castle Treasury has never allowed overflow. There was nothing to remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
You do know how software works, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyPC
Code functions can be shared by multiple other functions.
Maybe they don’t want to remember. Maybe that’s not the point of the eventQuote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
The point of the event seems to be forgetting basic math. They knew the size of the treasury at any TH level and picked a multiplier that they had to know would exceed that limit even if the treasury was completely empty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
This is, literally, spilled milk. Supercell poured out a gallon jug while the players were holding shot glasses. I'm not gonna cry over it, but I am going to point it out.
It's a mistake. It's not huge. but it IS a mistake. Recognize it and learn from it, and move on. And maybe you won't make the same mistake next time.
It's hard to get the big things right while you're still tripping over the small stuff.
Agreed. I was quite disappointed when I realised I wouldn't be able to store all that excess loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
On the flip side, however, I am very happy that there is some bonus loot and I love the extra xp that doesn't have a cap
First of all you are already crying about it, because you were shouting about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
Second it wasn’t a mistake because it was never intended that a single war could give you full storages almost if you actually get the overflow. It was merely meant that everyone would feel like a winner and get some nice extra loot.
Third more then 50% of the people actually find that they do get 5x and for them it’s useful. all the rest get way more then double and have a full treasury.
You are correct, but that's not what Supercell said. Supercell said NOTHING and the lack of responses by SC when first questioned is disheartening and the reason so many threads have started on this. In fact of law, and a reason I filed a winning complaint against a car dealership with the Better Business Bureau based on a 20% off repair coupon, the event announcement says specifically 5X loot. There are no qualifiers "up to ..." at all.
This is classic Bait/Switch material. My CWL attack indicates i will receive 8,925,000 gold/8,925,000 pink elixir and 49,000 dark elixir for a winning attack on my opponent. Precedents set in previous gameplay indicate there are not “conditions” upon this. There were no conditions set in the events tab as indicated in my previous post of “up to X amount.” Finally, there is no announcement in the Forum tabs spelling out this event with limits.
Only the fact that this is “free” loot rather than purchased via real currency protects SC from a rash of lawsuits. Supercell has goofed on this, and their lack of official reponse through Darien doesnt help the feelings of the player community. IMHO the responses from the Moderators are poorly constructed to resolve the issue and all the sycophant Forum trolls who feel they can be judge/jury on other players feelings should just be quiet and let Supercell respond officially.
Interesting .. you talk alot about lawsuits and the legality behind SC's actions.. You also have to realise the Moderators are not employed by Supercell and are just players like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorf
And i would also draw your attention to your reference "sycophant forum trolls".. for a person stating a lot of law you seem to have forgotten Defamation, Libel and Slander!
Your use of the word "Sycophant" is also interesting as it means "a person who acts obsequiously towards someone important in order to gain advantage"... Who is important?
Except precedent set in previous gameplay tell you that you cannot exceed your storages or treasuries limits unless it was paid for with real money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorf
Precedents also tell us that when our treasury happens to be full or not have enough space and the war screen shows a nice amount of war win bonus it doesn’t overflow and the loot is simple lost.
So that story isn’t exactly true now is it.
I have always supported the Moderators and feel they have a thankless role administering this forum for pretty much zero incentive - other than their enjoyment of the game/knowledge that this contributes to the overall game quality. My point was that SC has had their head in the sand when this could have been addressed quickly/Officially by SC Staff and an end put to it. For a thread like this to linger on for 36 pages is distracting and does not help the game play at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Call me H
You answer your own point by including that definition. I believe there are a number of forum members who feel over important in their role as an active member with hundreds/thousands of posts and I believe they belittle newer members with few posts in the belief that SC could recognize their loyalty and elevate them to Content Creator/Game Specialist/Moderator status. I did not defame/libel/slander a single member of this community.
That is the incredibly interesting part of legal precedents, there are many different ones and the last word is typically the most recent. The advertisement of 5X loot, or as it says in my example above in bright green “War Win Bonus X10” could be interpreted as false advertising by inferring this was an achievable award. The courts in the US have typically held companies accountable in these instances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
Storages do not overflow.
So that 10k gold/elix and 55k de means nothing
Supercell can advertise 100x if they want, no overflow
I'd love to read the US court ruling that said giving something away in a free game advertised as "10x" for example where most people could only practically achieve less than 10x, all for free, resulted in some kind of accountability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorf
Signed up to ask about the extra loot not being stored in clan wars, here are all the answers, yes you've never been able to store more than your clan's castle's limit, but the way they set it up was very misleading.
It's my anniversary as well, i started playing in this month 5 years ago too
Anther reason why I tell my members to ignore bonus loot, and go for three stars. Just another way to be distracted and go for a single star in hopes of a big payout.
No, "crying about it" would involve ridiculous things like threatening to sue, threatening to bad mouth Supercell on social media, threatening to leave the game forever, demanding compensation, etc. In other words, massive overreaction to a minor annoyance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
As for your second and third points, I would love to see your evidence to back them up.
Just to clarify: I do not agree completely with Kaptain Kat, I actually disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
I just want to point out what he/she meant on the third point. The third point is referring to the people who lose the war. If you lost, you only get 30% of the loot, therefore they can get the full 5x bonus. Since every war there needs to be a winner and a loser, this is half of players.
(If you are now thinking about draws, well, each side only get 40% of the loot so if you tie then you get the full 5x bonus as well)
Well out of all wars only almost half of the clans will actually win them and almost half will lose. Then there’s a small % that end in a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
Having a war end in a loss or draw which amounts to more then 50% of clans means that they’d have severely less loot then if they would’ve won, in fact only 30 or 40 of the war win bonus.
Now with max perks losing a war means your treasury will not completely fill up so if they receive 5x the loot they actually get all the loot.
This has nothing to do with evidence but simple logic anyone can come up with.
As for the second point SC is very well aware that winning loot won’t fit, we’ve had these complaints before. I even asked SC about a confusing tweet and got clarification that they weren’t increasing the treasury size. So it’s not a mistake, its not an oversight and they’re very well aware.
They do not want a single war (especially when CWL is running and there’s a war day every day) to pay out the equivalent of a rune of elixir AND gold and a quarter or so DE.
Where is all the loot? I was supposed to get 10million and only got my treasury filled? If this was the idea all along, make it known before hand. Feels shady and it's false advertisement.
BOOOO!!! SuperCell!!! BOOOO!!!
Supercell stated "celebrate the 5th anniversary of Clan Wars with 5x Loot and XP when you participate in Clan Wars during this exclusive event!"Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
Where does it state " up to the capacity of your treasury"?
My belief is that this was an afterthought. Since the update roll out interfered with CWL start. They just went! Oh ♥♥♥♥ we spaced off War anniversary! Let's just throw out 5x loot and move on! Many are in CWL wars still, as my grandsons are.
Do they need to inform you for every war, ever clan games, every star bonus that you are limited in your treasury by the capacity of your treasury?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMotator
You still earn 5x the loot...whether you can hold it or not still relies on the same mechanism it's BEEN relying on.
This is like them offering a "hammer of THs" as a one-time event and saying "instantly upgrade your TH level for free"...only to have people whining that their max TH won't go max+1 with this hammer. The announcement of an event doesn't negate the function of the game just because you'd prefer it to.
So many people advising what you should or shouldn't read into this offer or how you should be grateful or even what Supercell meant.
In the real world the claim that you " Celebrate the 5th anniversary with 5x loot and XP when you participate in Clan Wars during this exclusive event" cannot lead to any other interpretation than you will receive 5x the loot irrespective of the size of your treasury. It is at best misleading and a legal interpretation would be in favour of the loot being paid out in full as no restrictions are mentioned.
THIS IS A GAME
Supercell pay people to present these events who are not doing a very good job, they should tell them that their communication needs to be clearer but that's their call.
Just for information, the EU is currently looking at technology and gaming therein, this could be construed as misleading and as such Supercell would be open to a fine.
I am wanting to know why have a 5X Loot Bonus for Clan Wars, advertise this great event but when you do, you don't let us have the full amount? What a disappoint to find that if you win and the bonus says you will receive 10 million elixir and gold with 49K Dark Elixir. My CC holds half that much, why didn't Supercell allow to exceed limits? To me this is false advertising!
Is it also false advertising when it says a hammer will instantly upgrade a (spell, troop, building) to the next level, without making the rather obvious statement that it only works up to max level and won't let you keep upgrading past the max?
Keep in mind that even by losing a clan war, you still get quite a bit of loot anyway, and your clan earns 5x the XP as well. I do agree that it is a shame we can't keep it all, but it's still a great event nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siskiyou
This doesn't bother me in the least. I many times have forgotten to empty cc before wars end and lost loot. I am just voicing for my clanmates that are much newer to the game. They looking at the huge bonus available and then we're crushed when I told them to look at treasury size. I said do some subtraction and welcome to clash of clans!Quote:
Originally Posted by dmoore1998
No, that would just be pedantic.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmoore1998
However the use of the hammer is not time limited so will upgrade whatever to the next level. This event is time limited and the reward cannot be stored until Supercell decide to increase storage capacity.
When in the history of this game has the CC ever been allowed to exceed the limits? There was absolutely no advertisement that it would, so it was OBVIOUS that 5x loot for the winning clan would result in amounts that would exceed limits. Last year for the 4x event it did the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siskiyou
What about this scenario: Consider a normal loot war (no bonus multiplier), where one of the opponent's max TH11s leaves their TH in the corner & unprotected. Our lowest base, a TH6, snipes the TH11 for 1 star and a full bonus. We win the war - and guess what happens to our TH6?! OMIGOSH HIS CC OVERFLOWED AND HE DIDN'T GET THE FULL BONUS!! THAT'S FALSE ADVERTISING!! THE EU SHOULD FINE SUPERCELL!! TAKE TO THE STREETS AND FORUMS!!
C'mon people. Your entitlement and whining is appalling. Supercell gave you FREE LOOT and yet you want more because you were too shortsighted to see the obvious.
That has nothing to do with whether the event is misleading or not in the case of a TH6 sniping a TH11 for loot he is not being invited to an event with a promise of multiplied reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyPC
Being appalled that fellow players should voice their opinion is no reason to accuse them of whining or any other disparaging comment, free world and all that!
There also was no statement that the loot would overflow the cap and we as players know the loot rarely does overflow the cap and, when it does, it is typically due to an event that requires real money. We do stuff all the time that doesn’t overflow the cap. That is regularly how this game works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorf
Nah, the mistake wasn’t the lack of overflow. That was intentional, just as it has been in the past and as it commonly is for looting more than you can hold. The mistake, if there was one, was not stating it specifically that it was 5 x “up to the storage limit” because then at least players would have all known immediately, rather than after they came to the forums to learn. Next year I hope they do “6 x up to the cap of your treasury” as an event rather than just scrap it and not do one at all (which they might be tempted to do given the response).Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorAoD
Entitlement and whining?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyPC
Are people not entitled to get what they earned during a special event? Keywords here being: "Special Event".
SC advertised a 5X loot bonus without indicating treasury would not overflow for the event (their fault, not the players').
As I mentioned earlier: it is a logical and reasonable expectation to recieve the FULL (5X loot bonus) benefit for this specific special event. No one has received the FULL (5X loot bonus) benefit for the event.
How is it appaling to expect to receive what is offered?
Would you be satisfied if you won a fancy sports car on a game show only to be informed backstage that the sports car is for "show" only and you're really getting a prius?
What IS appalling are all the people defending SC on this and those complaining about those who are rightfully calling SC out on this particular bad business practice.
SC should've expected this considering the fallout from last year. You'd think they would've changed something regarding the event, but alas they did not; hence, more fallout for their (SC's) short-sightedness.
Please list all the prior special events where loot was able to overflow and paying actual money wasn’t involved. There aren’t many, usually the practice is we don’t get to overflow.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Yes, SC announced a 5 x loot event without saying the treasury wouldn’t overflow, but also without saying it would. Has it overflowed during any prior extra war loot events? During double loot events? War anniversary events?
I don’t think it is any more logical to think the loot would overflow this time than to think it would instead be like almost every other time and not overflow.
The game show analysis is not similar.
I don’t think there are many people defending SC in response to anyone saying it would have been more clear if SC would have said it was 5 x up to your treasury limit. I doubt many people would disagree with that reasonable opinion. Some might say it doesn’t matter either way, but I don’t think anyone would really “dispute” it. Where the dispute comes in that I have seen is in response to people saying they “deserve” more or “earned” more and those that make it seem like this is a travesty. Very strong opinions usually get very strong responses.
They also didn't advertise that you could only use 2 attacks in regular wars during this event...FRAUD! They didn't tell us all the things we could NOT do, so shady! They didn't tell me during this SPECIAL EVENT that they wouldn't be making all upgrades instant and free...what a bad business practice! Instead they just expect us to figure out that the only change is the change they actually announced? And that the rest of the gameplay is going to stay the same? How would any reasonable person ever expect that the thing changing is the thing they announced was changing? Shouldn't we have the right to expect that when they announce one specific change, that it means the rest of the game will also change in whatever ways we want it to unless they specifically tell us it WON'T change that way?Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Hello. This is not true. I just got my "bonus" after a war, supposedly 10000000 gold etc. But my clan castle still only gave me 4650000! What is the purpose of this bonus?? I dont get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelarzanikov20031801
You get all of the bonus acquired, limited by the amounts your CC can hold ... so your CC is stuffed, use it to your benefit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OliS1973
Usually supercell bonus make sense, but this time it is total ♥♥. What is the purpose of making us hope to get 10 millions and more when we win a war , but keep the limit to normal in the treasury. It's really stupid, imagine the lottery saying you win 10000000, but the lottery banking system can only transfer to you 4650000, so lottery keeps the rest! It is insulting for your players, giving fake present is a lot worth than not giving anything! Shame on you for this one Supercell!
SC did not deliver what was advertised for this very specific, yearly, special event.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmoore1998
People have every right to be upset for not receiving what was advertised.
Your examples of other gameplay features do not apply b/c we are discussing a very specific, limited, yearly event. The examples you gave (# of war attacks, updates, etc.) are not limited yearly events.
The fault lies with SC alone for not being more straightforward. SC is also at fault b/c the same thing happened last year and there was a lot of fallout over it.
Most rational people would think that a company would learn from prior mistakes. However, SC apparently did not learn from last year's mistake. If they did, they would've re-tooled the event.
I'm actually surprised SC didn't re-tool the event b/c they generally learn from their mistakes and implement measures to ensure said mistakes don't occur again.
Last year I gave SC a pass b/c they updated the event to indicate the treasury would not overflow and b/c it was the first time (not sure if it was the 1st time or not, but for me it was) they had such an event. Also, with first time events I expect things to be a little wonky or unexpected things to occur, etc.
However, making the same mistake for a 2nd year in a row, especially considering the fallout from last year, is inexcusable.
SC should've expected fallout this year too, since they failed to re-tool the event.
It is a bit odd that you are referring to how it was last year for this same event yet arguing SC advertised something different for this specific yearly event this year. It worked this year like it usually works: we don’t get to overflow our storage caps, treasury caps, caps on books, caps on potions, etc. for events. We do when we pay for stuff with money.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Its really simple if you stop looking at it from a selfish point of view. During this event, SC wants everyone who wars to received a full treasury win or lose. The easiest way to do that is to 10x it, so not matter what base you attacked, or you won or lost the war, everyone gets the bonus loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemann8478
Its not a mistake, its not an oversight, it isn't ignorance, its very very simple. You were NEVER meant to actually get 10M in rewards. You didn't lose anything. No there was no fallout over it, there wasn't rebellion, there wasn't protest. Calm down, get a grip.
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Originally Posted by joemann8478
Most rational people wouldn’t throw their toys out of the pram.
Take your eyes of the shiny bling for a minute and you’d realize that those insane amounts of loot which would equal to almost
2.25 runes for a day’s war with the possibility of getting that a few consecutive days would be way too much and not in reasonable proportion. Most reasonable people would understand that point.
There is no need to be so insulting when trying to make a pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat
Even if you disagree with someone, you can be polite while doing so. For example, I would disagree with your stance on this issue, but a few pages back someone said that your argument made no sense for x reason. Now, x reason was not correct, they just misunderstood your argument. Despite disagreeing with you, I was happy to explain your point to them and try to make them understand your point of view.
This isn't me being some sort of hero (even if I am the GrandWarden :cool:) but it is about being a little more civil when having disagreements. Trying to empathise and see the other's viewpoint is essential in disagreeing, and is much better than ad hominem (attacking the person rather than their argument) as that doesn't get us anywhere. :)
Just lost a war and was more than happy with X5 bonus at 4.4 million gold and elixir.