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March 27th, 2018
adrek

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Originally Posted by Piper139

As long as it were clan specific (leaders can choose), I don't really care. However, I don't want my clan mates being penalized for others' misdeeds. We always hit max but it isnt always the same players with the most points. We work together. Some people help by taking bad challenges and letting them expire. Some help by popping in and requesting troops and spells just for event fills when they only have a few minutes. There are many ways to contribute besides maxing the points. I want them to get the same rewards as the rest of my clan. It helps them which helps us grow stronger.

It is easy when someone doesn't fit in your clan, you can always kick that member.
But there are more complex situations like the one I described earlier... Say you have around 10 guys that are serious about war and they are good donators but they don't perform well in clan games.

IMO, they don't earn the right to claim all the rewards. If that means my clan won't still get the top tier rewards, it is fine.
March 27th, 2018
xc3ss1v30n3

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Originally Posted by adrek

Again, he is not being penalized. He got the rewards for the games he played in. He didn't get the rewards for the games he didn't. I get your point but that's not really a penalization.

In that sense, why don't all members get the same war bonus after a win? They contributed for that win after all, maybe with just 1 star but they did contribute similar to the ones getting 50-100 medals in clan games.

Life doesn't work like clan games at all. Say a law firm is doing really good, some of them may get a raise and just a few may get promoted. Not all of them gel all the rewards, the ones working the hardest get them.

The difference is, these are CLAN games. Rewards are based solely on the entire clan's performance as a whole. War is different in that the bonus is dependent on the weight of the base being attacked. It has nothing to do with stars. You get the same bonus whether you 1 star 2 bases or you 3 star 2 bases. War is nothing like clan in this sense. That's just not a good comparison.
March 27th, 2018
ClashPlayerZ

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

Might I suggest that it is you that needs comprehension lessons? I used that as an example of why the rewards SHOULD NOT be based on performance even if such a system would rid clans of free-loaders. In such a system a person that is not free-loading, but rather has some circumstance of life get in the way of contributing full points to Clan Games would not receive the full awards and that is unfair. Especially if that person has participated fully previously.

Also, none of that is even considering that rewards are based on the entire clan's effort rather than any single individual.

Now, do you want to discuss the topic at hand further or do you want to continue to question my comprehension skills?

Again it's you who has comprehension issues as it's clear your ridiculous post #82 suggests and insinuates that someone who advocates for a policy is one who is likely to cheat or complain on that same policy.

Moreover, it was NOT an example as it was an accusation
You said 'Somehow, I have a sneaky suspicion that you would show up on the boards claiming.."

Go learn how to read!
March 27th, 2018
xc3ss1v30n3

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Originally Posted by adrek

It is easy when someone doesn't fit in your clan, you can always kick that member.
But there are more complex situations like the one I described earlier... Say you have around 10 guys that are serious about war and they are good donators but they don't perform well in clan games.

IMO, they don't earn the right to claim all the rewards. If that means my clan won't still get the top tier rewards, it is fine.

So, you'd rather hose over 30 other people because you want to ensure 10 get limited rewards? Rather than just letting the entire clan benefit from full rewards?
March 27th, 2018
Piper139

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Originally Posted by adrek

It is easy when someone doesn't fit in your clan, you can always kick that member.
But there are more complex situations like the one I described earlier... Say you have around 10 guys that are serious about war and they are good donators but they don't perform well in clan games.

IMO, they don't earn the right to claim all the rewards. If that means my clan won't still get the top tier rewards, it is fine.

Then thats your decision as a leader. Do their other contributions outweigh their poor games performance. We have some that never war but absolutely excel at the games. We have some war fanatics that don't do as well in games. And everything in between. We win the games as a clan. Everyone contributes in some way. If they implement a tool that lets leaders set limits, fine. I am absolutely against it being forced on all clans.
March 27th, 2018
adrek

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Originally Posted by Damiz

And again, he is being penalised. And so is the clan by association. Re-read my posts.

These are clan games. They are not individual games. They are not individual rewards. Why don't you understand that?

You clearly don't understand how a penalty works.

War is a collective effort as well and Supercell gives different war bonus. The collective effort is jut a lame excuse.
March 27th, 2018
Damiz

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Originally Posted by adrek

You clearly don't understand how a penalty works.

War is a collective effort as well and Supercell gives different war bonus. The collective effort is jut a lame excuse.

I really do not propose debating this with you further. You clearly have decided to ignore my posts. You are clearly somebody that refuses to accept another's view on these issues and tries to distort the debate by bringing in irrelevant considerations whilst completely ignoring why I commented in the way I did to support the post I made.

Thankfully, SC does not agree with your thought process that these games are for individuals rather than for the overall betterment of a clan.
March 27th, 2018
Gorbash098

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Originally Posted by adrek

That was my point, no one is taking away rewards in the example given by the guy quoted on my comment.

You are advocating for a minimum number of point before receiving a reward and also for leaders to choose what that minimum should be. Effectively taking away from those players what SC determined they deserved.
March 27th, 2018
adrek

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Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3

So, you'd rather hose over 30 other people because you want to ensure 10 get limited rewards? Rather than just letting the entire clan benefit from full rewards?

I rather let my clan members take what they have accomplished. Setting a limit may or may not make people go for more medals but it will be similar to war in the sense that you get what you accomplished by yourself but still helped by others by winning a war.

As I said before, all members should get the the same war bonus if this is about all getting the same. I doubt supercell would give the same bonus to all members.
March 27th, 2018
WookieFloyd

I will just say that I am glad I am not in any of these peoples clans that want to limit peoples rewards. Our clan has gotten max rewards every time. Some certainly have contributed more than others and it varies from games to games but in the end your clan gets stronger as a whole with everyone getting these books and potions. That helps with war, donations, famring and just overall clan morale.

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