Supercell ωну!! ωну Did you do it as you know many of the players hate Builder base and you guyss brought challenges only for вв. I just hate Builder вαѕє🙅🙅
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Supercell ωну!! ωну Did you do it as you know many of the players hate Builder base and you guyss brought challenges only for вв. I just hate Builder вαѕє🙅🙅
Whose brilliant idea was this? Do they read the forums? I remember you guys saying we would not be forced to play the BH base. If I told you how I really feel I would not be allowed to post here anymore. So frustrating.
Couldn't you give us like 2 Hours to complete some of these task? 18 STARS in 1 hour? That's Nine 2 star attacks. With a max hero I can only attack 6 times in 1 hour given his 9 minute regen. Meaning I have to 100% ALL SIX ATTACKS to get 18 stars! This is not even possible.
#comeonman
Darian we can't find 400 to600 chlng in clan games why????
SC should think more about players than money sometimes.....
Same quests less points
Same capacity (50k) less days
And just my 2 cent but i cant even complete some quests without using gems. I've lvl 20 BM that have a 8-9 min regeneration time plus every battle takes another 2-3 min. This means before i can attack i must wait in game at least 10 min. Said so i can do at max 6 attack in 1 hr.
How i'm suppose to complete these quests?:
Collect 18 stars in 1 hr (come on do who can do 3-stars 6 times in a row)
Win 8x in 1 hr
Destroy 12x crusher in 1 hr (i know this is in theory possible but you must destroy in every attack both enemy's crushers without fail + you must not lose any time after the BM come back to life)
Destroy 6x Multi Mortar in 1 hr (same as before)
etc
I dont think many are worried about the release of BH8, allthough as Onyx points out it goes against what we have been told (but i understand fully why it was released and since Its already built not a big deal), the problem is the arm twisting of linking main base rewards to builders base challenges, and seperately having a clangames without main village chalenges, and thirdly cutting the points per builders base challenge.
Its like poking people with a stick, 4 times, poke, poke, poke, poke - I dont know what reaction SC expected
instead they could have poked once, then - massaged, massaged, massaged, massaged.
poke (bh only update), massage (clangames with a great reward), massage (allthough ite builders celebration, main village is also invited), massage (but If you do builders base challenges you get triple the usual points!!!!)
end result - relaxed muscles, finished clangames, happy clashers, new builders base enthusiasts, higher builder base activity going forward.
I'm really pleased with this clan games! When I heard the announcement I knew it was time to queue for popcorn due to the amount of builder hall bashers out there, but I'll tell you why this was needed:
1) Like it our not, builder hall is apart of the game. You can pretend all you want, but it's a fact.
2) Like with troop/spell/defence nerfs/buffs, the game needs balance. You may not agree with these changes, but it keeps the game interesting and forces players to change the way they play. We need more players to contribute to builder base to keep it interesting.
3) Clouds for top tier players hampering the ability to complete main village games within the allotted time! This is the no.1 reason, as I requested about 5 times on the idea forum that the game types needed to be split to allow those who couldn't find enough bases in the time limits a chance to contribute. I can see that instead of just splitting the games and widening the gap between play styles more, they've incentivised builder base by making it exclusive.
4) I expect down the road we will also get main village only games (maybe to celebrate TH12) which I will have to drop cups to participate in, but I won't complain.
Bottom line, there is nothing wrong with these games. It is a positive move by SC and I hope to see more of it!
Rather:
SC: "Let's make a BB only clan games to incentivise that style of play more (like when we made valks and healers relevant again) and then make the challenges HARDER to complete to give players more satisfaction when they win. That will surely make our "loyal" players happy!"
Could please add quest for the main village as well in the clan games?forcing player to play the builder base is unfair to player that don't like builder base wouldn't you agree?clan games already had a great balance with quest.why change it?
Why points reduced ? it's too hard to reach 50k points e.g 600 destruction in one hour and u got 300 point only . 18 star in one hour it's too hard for Max th7 but easy for gemers :( m not happy with these builder games
i quite disappointed with the clan game setup... most of the mission is 1 hours duration and very low score in return. it is so tiring compare to regular clan game. it is turning into another version of daily mission which we start losing interest to get it done when it is a burden to our day life.
Its supercells attempt to make players that dont like bb hate the game. And it works.
1h is not enough. It's impossible to complete most challenges without clock tower boost or a lot of gems.
Do not approach me with your dictionary about coerce or force or any other terms please, as many previous posts have done enough of this and have turned this thread into English 101. Please save your time as I won’t reply if you do. ;) now let me have my peace and say my complaints.
I’m a gemmer. I’m sure many players have gemmed way more than me, but as a paid consumer, I still can voice my opinion. Here is what I think: SC tried to force a bh event on us because somehow they become greedy and want to make more money out of it. Therefore, as a small gemmer, I will not participate in this round of clan games, and I will not gem for a while. My clan will be doing the same. Good day and bye bye.
Lol c’mon supercell.. trying to force people to play builder hall is pretty low don’t you think.
1) yes Its a part of the game, that doesnt mean Its a good idea to run clan games with rewards for main and builder base, yet prevent players having the option to use main base challenges to achieve rewards. The main base is also a part of the game.
2) the best way is to give options, and incentivise the builder base, so allow both challenges, but give builders base challenges 3 times th normal points, so people chooseto play on it, and feel good about it, this will lead to more builder base contribution after clan games as you say.
3) legend players could have taken builder base challenges a per my example above (BB challenges could make up 60 to 70% of challeges). They can simply choose those challenges while leaving some choice for those who love clan games but really dont like the builder base.
4) i hope to see many more flan games down the road, but i hope they will not exclude Iether from the fun.
bottom line, offering incentives works better and has less negative side effects than arm twisting. I hope to see more inclusive games in the future and hope to never again see Iether party left out of the festivities.
The intention is to encourage people to play bb more, after the release of builder hall 8. I'm sure you already know this.
Not sure why you think they would close the thread particularly. Might move it to a sticky or on-going conversation though, or tell the OP to post in one of those. That's the only time they would close a thread, not just because someone is complaining. If that were the case, there would only be about 3 open threads !!
Pls update clan games points it's too hard to reach 50k. We don't have much time for atk for all day .
Goodness I wish I could see the data SC must accumulate. Normally in 1 clan, I give upwards of 10k points. My clan is so competitive we used to competed on who could complete their points fastest. It then turned into, who can get all their accounts including mini’s completed first. Needless to say, clan games can feel like a part time job. As of yet, only 1 person is on board with 250 points. Pretty sure my leader will be oh so happily encouraging us on our participation or lack there of. Ah well. Luckily it’s only 1 clan game to miss.
What a joke these clan games are...points reduced for challenges all builder base related👎👎👎
Im not sure you used "sure" currently. Dont you mean presume?
then "can" you voice your opinion or "do you have the right" to?
did supercell "try" to force an even on us, or did they in fact "succeed"?
then is "force" the correct word, is Darian really at your house, having restrained you, fitting and exoskelon to your hands, and is playing builders base remote control? And If he is, are you not both guilty of account sharing.
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You seriously just compared clipping your toenails to making progress in the game?
It's amazing how quickly people forget the majority of people downloaded clash of clans, a game where you decide who you want to attack, not a game which tells you who to attack.
If the 90% of hate/negativity in this thread doesn't show this was a terrible idea then perhaps SC needs to pay a bit more attention.
I have no problem centering the games around the BB but making 99% of the tasks specific to it?
That's just a company that's out of touch with its fan base.
And before you say the forum only makes up a small % I can tell you
FB and twitter are lit up as well.
too many challenges are showing up to complete in 1 hour these are pretty hard to do especially if you are high up in trophies also.
I dont like bb, trying to force me throu cg bb only makes me consider stopping playing coc all together, grrr :/
BB8 is as bad as BB7, the only good thing is that if you are in legends, you can make bb games between attacks.. but BB is rubbish
Our clan is also really unhappy with those game. A lot of things have already been said, so I'll focus on one point : the difficulty.
We usually have 6 or 7 days to do 50k points clan games. This times, we only have 4 days.
In the meantime, the builder trial give less point, or at least, are longer to achieve for the same point amount. I think you need at least 3 times more time to do the same amount of point.
So, we have to play more time in less days... Awesome!
Our clan have completed all clan games until now. Even the 75k one. But this time, we are not even sure to reach 30k...
Please do something about this clan game, increase point or duration, or decrease the objective to reach. But don't let it like that, it's to hard. Forcing builder trial is already not funny, so....
For your information, that's the first time I'm not happy with a new thing added in the game.
In fairness, people who dont like the BB will be the vocal segment at the moment, we dont know how many people think the idea is fine, or dont mind that there are no main base tasks.
Having said that, i agree they could have got the better results, without upsetting so many people, i think these games were a mistep, which is bound to happen from time to time.
to keep things in perspective, as a multi accounter, the positive side to getting the supercell ID outweighs the negative side of the these clan games 100 to 1, but you dont see the forums flooded with I love the supercell ID thread.
Negative views are more likely to be expresssed than positive, so before we are too hard on supercell, we need to acknowledge this is just a small mistep on a long Journey. Of course we should tell them we feel Its a mistep (those of us that do), but at the same time keep the anger levels reasonable considering Its just one step of many.
Not a fan of this but I just noticed also the amount of time it will take to complete the builder games.
On the Main I can boost or snipe buildings to complete some challenges quickly. Apart from the few minutes of boost it is a 6-10 minute wait every time if you drop 1 troop or just disconnect. The time commitment is exponentially longer for this game.
on my mini account in the miniclan i saw one mainbase quest. remove obstacles. i took this quest and cancled it. muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
no problem the miniclan is for our inactive second accounts.
Check this thread out guys: https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...k-Quickest-Way
Quickest way to Finish Builder Games.
Hey there guys,
Now first off, I'm always the one raising a brow to people complaining about stuff.
But, here's my first thread on this topic and I feel both ashamed and appalled to do this.
Honestly.... who at SC thought of a full builder base clan games? This is THE worst thing I've seen to date.
Firstly, this won't be so bad. But I mean 80% of the players actually have some sort of real life to attend to even though we would (and will) complete this event.
Secondly, every single battle I'm in has some sort of blessed soul deploying mass archers, like the 2 second nerf was suppose to stop this? I think you guys actually motivated EVERYONE to use this now. Sitting there through 3 minutes of pain because they inject this little unwanted offspring of witch characters one by one till they get some sort of 2 star.
I truly loved doing my daily 3 battles and getting these players, having them come back after 3 minutes of unwanted hell to get their 2 stars just to see they have been 3 starred. But THIS event is completely killing my brain and nerves.
The sad thing is, I WILL finish this as most of my clan (otherwise we clean it XD) but PLEASE, give this staff member who thought of this some unpaid leave as punishment for doing this to us and don't do it again??? This event would have been great for the 1st of April......
Now, back to the suffering. I feel better now... prolly only for the next 3 minutes...:facepalm:
I feel sorry for players like you to whom the side dish (BB) became the main dish. BB was not the reason we started to play this game. It was simply an add-on to this game. Talking about sympathy, I think it's you who needs it the most atm. Don't worry. You have mine.
I agree I really don’t like builder base but past games were really nice where everyone could do either main or B.B. challenges. Just hate being forced to play be way or another.
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...k-Quickest-Way
Strategy to protest the clan games guys. Enough people join in, Builder Games will be trashed.
no-one is making you participate in the games.
The games are all builder base to celebrate the BH8 release, i expect there will be a main hall specific games when TH12 drops.
Just took the giant cannon challenge, destroy 5 in an hour,
it might actually help if i was given opposing bases that bloody had 1, as well as having a wait time of 4+ mins between fights.
i failed the challenge because the last 4 bases didn't have 1, and i'm not prepared to spend gems on getting my troops back.
might call quits on this challenge, which will suck, as my clan have completed all up to now.
Your statement is actually null in void. Since I have some spare time I'll play around on here.
No-one is making me participate?
That's a lie and here's why...
It's an event, based on our latest patch, please read my thread very carefully, I said I'm going to do it, I never thew my toys at them, sorry if my teddy hit you in the face :saywhat:
If you have a look at the rewards, it's not only for the BH, but for the Main village also. So yeah, if we want the goodies, we HAVE to do it, who does not want free goodies? So indirectly we can sit here all day arguing but we are "forced" to do it.
hey op, check out this post:
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...k-Quickest-Way
A few are trying to protest, it won't be for anyone that cares about trophies.
Waah, no one is making you play the games. Lame response. People are now used to playing the games. Except this one is focused on their failing builder base so SC is going to force people to play it and learn to like it. At least the rewards suck for these games and my clan has no shot at the 30k so we can sit this one out without regrets.
This won't work because no one but the 50 people in his clan and the people that read the forum post would do it.
The fastest way to finish builder games is to start builder bases on any th6+ minis you or your mates have that currently have unbuilt ships.
Switching between two minis I've racked up 2100 clan game points in about 20 minutes. If more people rushed th6 minis and made builder bases with only lv 4 sneaky archers and nothing else, they'd clamour for MORE builder games.
If you care about your clan mates you are forced to play the games. Plain and simple.
Also,No village base attacks available for this clan game...so sad ""SC""😢
Last I'm going to comment on this, I believe I've made my opinion clear in previous posts. Just want to add that I am not only disliking the CG, it's made me literally mad. BH AI is just terrible, they release a new level and before any F2P players can even finish upgrading their BH, then start CGs to encourage people to rush their builds to stay competitive. Developer brain fart level = Expert.:thumbsup:
“Nobody is making you play...”. Bah. Read two posts and already tired of that argument. Yes that’s true. But I like(ed) clan games, and so does(did) my clan. We play for fun. Limiting to B.B. really cuts the fun out, for a lot of people. (Yes that’s opinion) And the challenges are gem hungry. 18 stars for 300 points in one hour? Yeah right. Not at 3500 cups (with no way to drop). Not gonna happen. ( at least not without a boatload of gems, and I don’t care how high your clock tower is. ). So yeah - you don’t have to play it. And I probably won’t. Because it isn’t fun. If they want to suck the fun out - we’ll, it’s your game SC. You will do what you want anyway. Just my opinion, and giving feedback. No need to defend it.
Agreed OP. stupid idea for builder games
To Draw attention of SC I have decided to rate COC app ONE Star in playstore.I will re-rate it Five star after end of this Clan games..
Have to admit this is the worst clan game idea they came up with, that too a VI tier 4 day long clan games completely on BB. lol
Let Leave our bases defensless so everyone can Get Points easy
The repetitive builder hall attacks are disgusting. As an underleveled player against other 'stronger' opponents, I have to use my best attack comp every time to have a chance of winning.
I would love to drop trophies, but why would I waste an hour of my time doing that? And then followed by more repeated and robotic play style
Thats motivating and positivity.
But I am so angry and disturbed that I will save 1 minion / 1 barb / 1 archer for last few secs nd drop it. This will lead to more complaints / rantd on forum, social media then they will realise their bad decision.
Also maybe seperate the Builder Clash from main game and add whatever they like builder wars, builder games, builder potions etc.
Yep, bb challenges were always too hard. And now there is no main base challenge, which reduces the completion rates by at least half. Our clan reached 4k by now, but doesn't look like it will cross 50k.
....Is all I keep seeing my clan members say. If they wanted to “celebrate” builder base, they could have done it easy enough with some “special builder themed challenges in the mix, the way they have chosen is not good.
From a fellow reddittor:
"If they actually wanted to make these games about BB without pissing off everyone who doesn't like it, they would have allowed all quests as normal, but raised the reward value of the BB ones. People follow incentives, and if you're lukewarm about BB but you see 600 points for getting 12 stars maybe you'll take that one and dip your toe back into the BB waters."
I told my clan mates they are on their own for this one. I play BH once every 2-3 days.
#SC
I think you should give away the clan game builder base rewards and main village rewards according to the proportion of tasks spawning corresponding to main village and builder base..
Giving away main village rewards for builder base tasks only is not fair...
Tasks and rewards should be balanced...
Ours is a positive, open-minded, non-judgmental let's give-it-a-go kind of a clan. To a person, we could not be more disappointed in the choice of this builder games activity. We have elected not to participate, and it is safe to say, if, this type of challenge presents itself in the future, we will continue to opt out. Every decision creators make cannot always be a hit, but we are really surprised at how far off "base" this idea has miss the mark. Whoever sold this idea, should be updating their resume.
How many threads are merged in this ? This might be a record
Just found out that if you only drop 1 troop and surrender you still have to retrain your entire army...
Can’t even score a quick win...
Ok..... not much interested in BH.....
There must have been few TH games :(
Eh, got merged.
Anyway, I took the advice and entire clan is in. we changed our layouts so everyone can complete the event way easier.
Here it is.
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50k points in 4days? I think only top builder base clans can do that
You have way too many 1 hour challenges. Sure when I have the clock tower boost I might be able to do one, but the clan games were not a grind for me, because I could do 8 hour, 1 and 2 day challenges and comfortably get 3k. I don’t have an hour to spend on the game consecutively all the time and I still wanna be able to do stuff on the main village too. Also, I have work, a family and other things in life. We should have the option to play for a few minutes a bunch of times a day and still do Challenges. If there are more than 1/3 1 hour challenges, you are making my clan and I oppositional.
If you are seeing that, then you must be below 1500 trophies, and low enough Builder base to not yet have GC available.
Almost everybody who can have it does, and above 1500 trophies, you aren't matched by BH level, so you would be seeing many of them.
Advice - don't take challenges to destroy something you can't currently build if you are low in trophies, because (as you have found) you may not see any.
I’m inclined to agree, only I would identify the impossible task as the Pekka one rather than the Mega Tesla - anyone pushing over 4500or so sees a lot of the teslas but very few have pekka and even fewer have mage the massive investment of gemming pekka to a useable level.
I hate the builder hall games, but am ALMOST forced to participate for the clan. Worst idea you've had since coming out with the bomb towers, which I would love to throw away. You really should have challenges from both the regular base and builder all bases in all clan games. Seems like by pushing builder hall you are trying to run more people away from the game.
If this builder games were made little harder since runes of builder gold and elixir are given out, wonder how hard it may be for the game which may have rune of dark elixir. One thing is sure it may be kept at minimum 75000 point to a maximum of 100000 points maybe
I hate builder base too. Maybe it’s time to stop playing if sc is forcing this down my throat.
as you can see I started in July 2014 but sc is getting worse.... maybe it’s really time to quit
50.000 is usually 6 days, this time is 4 days.
50.000 always have both main village as BH, this time just BH.
challenge points are reduced 25% or challenge itself inscreased by 25%.
Way to go.... how to unmotivate everyone at a single time.
My clan always reached 50k points, but that's maybe will be max 20k, bad decision SC, bad decision...
I sent a clanmail out a few days ago pumping everyone up for these game. Unfortunately I didnt realize they were BB only. Now I feel like an idiot because most people don't even play BB.
No way we hit 50K. We only have 8 people participating in the games so far and I AM TWO OF THEM!
I’m not going out my way to do this Games,I only play BH til I get my 3* then that’s it. As a BH6 all I draw is BH7s n only win if there terrible attackers. The big challenges to get the big points I don’t even bother,I can’t manage 18 Stars all day let alone 1hr,a complete waste of my energy this Games.
I like builder base, and spending more and more time on it (still loving more the main base by far of course).
I was curious and happy to see a "builder games".
But seriously, the challenges are messed up. 18stars in 1 hours ? seriously ??? Even with my mini (keeping it at BH2 for easy challenge I'm not sure to be able to get it)...
Please update with more realistic challenges, that's ridiculous here.
Same here ^ almost everyone did!
this is very bad, forcing people to play Bh when they only want to play Vh.
I agree. This is the worst clan games ever
Thanks for the offer, Darian, but our clan does not do much with the BB.
The rewards are nice, but not worth playing a part of the game which isn't for us.
We'll wait for the next one.
Yep... never fixed the boat.
I'm the top BB player in our clan on my two accounts (although I jockey at the top with a few players). I enjoy it well enough and have been really enjoying early BH8. I was a max BH7 minus a few levels of the hero, a few levels on drop-ships, and walls. It becomes a drag as you advance through the base in a way the main base doesn't but no big deal. I love the Clan Games. They told us they were to increase participation of less active members and they have.
All that being said I have hated BB tasks in the Games from the get-go. A few players in my Clan like them. I will continue to get my 3 pretty much as frequently as I can but that isn't enough to fulfill most of the tasks. Considering that I get to 3k with both my accounts it will hurt my clan if I'm less active. There is nothing about this that I like and I'm one of the people on this forum that have supported Clan Games from the beginning and like the BB.
I have actually come on here to praise the last two updates, something I have NEVER done since I started playing. Heck, I became active in the forums to protest an update. I don't know why SC is taking something that had been working so well and ruining the experience for a lot of players.
I am very disappointed by the builder base clan games. It's interesting how supercell tries to force certain types of game play, against popular demand at times. The thrice damned th 11 update and removal of th sniping, with a supercell rep basically saying "how the game is supposed to be played", comes to mind now.
The builder base sucks. Not sure if it's the simplicity or just not as interesting game play as main base, or the matchmaking is even worse than clan wars, but builder base just sucks. Sometimes a turd is just a turd. I just let the collectors build up and upgrade the base, mainly for the gem factory.
My accts and clan maxed out last games. I will just start my BB base to get in on rewards, and keep donating troops, but will not participate otherwise and will let clan know.
People not participating in BB games would be a nice middle finger towards people at supercell trying to force unpopular game play.