We're talking about dropping trophies. 6 minutes each drop. Casual game, 6 minutes each shot just to drop trophies, how long am I supposed to be on my phone, unplaying the game to compensate for bad game design?
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Well, I, for once, want to thank Darian profusely for introducing "Only BB" Clan Games.
As I've said in some other threads on the Forums, me and some of my clanmates and friends adore the Builder Base, so these Games were a boon for us.
Thank you, SC! Thank you, Darian! Keep introducing BB exclusive Clan Games in the future!
Like others I don't play BB but am not upset with a BB only clan games, it's a special occasion. I'm trying for my clan with my BH4 but am struggling. Some of the challenges are just a little too difficult for me to complete.
You will occasionally get repution votes up or down from people who agree or disagree with what you say, but most often those votes will be based on how you say it. I disagree with things SC does all the time and yet I don't get infractions, threads closed, posts deleted, etc. I'm sure SC employees themselves have some disagreement about steps they take and decisions they make. I can't believe they would be unanimous on everything.
No, this is not an adult chatting style and no, you should not assume the other poster is a "kiddo" because he asks that you type in complete words and sentences to make it easier for us to read.
I doubt kids have any advantage in gaining points. Players playing very low in trophies have a big advantage.
Some of the challenges are very hard, especially some of the one hour ones. Tell your clan mates to take those and trash them so better ones come up. Even better, if a clan mate is about to go off line for an hour, take the 1 hour challenge and just let it expire. That will cause a new one to show up. It is not impossible to get 3k clan points without spending money. In fact, if you are low in trophies it is very easy.
I would not be surprised to see a main hall only game if/when th12 drops, unless SC thinks the negative feedback from this experiment is too much.
What do you think is unfair about these clan games? The part I think that is unfair is how much harder it is for players who are high in trophies on Bh. It actually is easier for players who don't like and don't care about Bh than it is for players who enjoy it.
In the end, my opinion is I prefer the clan games that have challenges from both sides, but I'm not too worried about this rare one to celebrate a new hall dropping. If they do a main hall only clan games if/when th12 drops, I will have the same opinion. I will prefer they instead offer challenges from both sides, but wouldn't care too much about one game that is only main hall challenges.
It was poor planning by SC to have a build base focused clan games at the same time as a main village event.
Have we the option to TRASH entire Builder Base Games??
It appears that sometimes I get credit towards a builder game in a friendly challenge battle and sometimes not. Can someone explain how this works? As a clan we'll never reach all the rewards unless we can leverage friendly challenges. Thanks!
I am sure this has been asked before but I certainly don’t have time to read 132 pages of posts but has anyone mentioned in this B.B. event the resource rewards go into the treasury where they cannot be used in the B.B.? I.e the gold and ex. If we do this event in the future (please no), it would be fitting the B.B. rewards be able to be used in the B.B..
and yes, yes I know some of the items can be used in both and some runes only work in B.B..
I do casually play BH and take advantage of the quick and easy BH challenges during the regular Clan Games.
But, these games might just break me from BH all together...
With due respect, I think you slightly missed the punchline.
I've actually been critical of the Builder Games because the rewards obtainable (Runes etc) can be used on the main village, and if you don't enjoy playing BHB, then you are therefore disadvantaged by definition in your progression, compared to those who do play BHB!:)
For the record, I don't actively play BHB, but even if I did, I would still stand up for the community as a whole, and if sections of the community are being disadvantaged because of historic choices, then I feel their grievances should at least be heard.
Hopefully 4 days from now, and all will be forgotten....but etc:saywhat:
I am feeling very Crispy myself after only 1.5 days of games. Yes I will get my 3000 on my 2 accounts but my clan doesn't feel "forced" to play the games so it may all be for next to nothing. If we don't at least hit the 30k then these hours upon hours of builder attacks will be a waste of time. I have NO interest in the rewards below 30k. 60 Gems and a potion isn't going to be enough reward for the amount of time I have had to sink into these games.
Will we see an all home base clan game next time? Lol..yea right..
i think its a bug, if you doing say a percentage clan game challenge and accept a friendly challenge and did some damage, it will show in the right hand side that it got added to the total destruction u need in the clan game challenge. But if you open the clan game tab it will remain the same its just a visual bug..
Friendly challenge don't count towards builder games its just a visual bug..
I don't think you ever get credit for the games, from Friendly challenges.
It sometimes however 'appears' that you get the credit for it. It shows can add % points on screen when you complete any friendly battle - but when you go to the caravan to check your progress on a challenge, it hasn't changed. I was hopeful on this....
Edit - Ninja'd by ghosteagle!
Maybe they should change it to allow us to get points for Friendly Battles. That would make this SO much easier.
the title it's clear
builder games
1 hour task is challenging but still achievable
but. yes I agree
high trophy should avoid 1 hour task
without ct boost... it's very unlikely
the event and the prizes is special for BH player
you all are free to skip this and wait for the next round
clash on
Not working. It's a bug I guess. I was happy for a 1min. Now I am not 😢.
Recently playing the builder games I checked the task and there I checked that there is a task of doing 600% of destion in 1 hr and rewarding 300 points and then I checked another related to this that was do 800% destruction in 1 day rewarding 300 points r they equal
Supposedly , yes. They are kidding. But, If you can't do it, well, don't do it.
But Supercell ensures strict quality assurance on all things they release.
..............right?
I'd really love it if Darian came onto one of these threads and said, "Yep, you got us. I guess the jig is up, it was all a joke. There will be a patch within an hour that changes these values."
I dislike the hour tasks as much as anyone. But those one hour tasks are cake for low level bases. Making them more valuable would make it even easier.
i saw one quest with 1000% destruction.
Sir, This clan games is so difficult. Because there is no home village gaming in this season.plz sir no one can complete this . include the home village ..
Super easy on my brand new BB 02 account.
10 attacks with a 1:20 troop time regen.
You tie 99% of the time but you get 100% destruction each attack.
I did quite a few of them. Had 3000 points in 3 hrs.
But on my main account BH 07 I wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole.
I've done several of those but you have 2 days to do them. I try to do them in two hours and do on TH but can't do it that fast on BH.
OP, you have a valid concern. There are lot of these that need adjusting.
A challenge that takes 5 raid at least to complete often gets 80 points. For example, kill 15 archers towers. For a TH8 that is at least three raids. But another that can be done in 1 or 2 gets 100 and sometimes many more points. For example, earn five stars can usually be done by me in two raids. It need to be adjusted. I posted in the ideas and feature request during the last games on this.
I have been getting lots of "Win 8 versus battle in an hr challenge".I just dumped two of them and got yet another one.I feel this is a very tough one as it may take you more than 12-15 battles.Clearly trying to have us use gems.But I have four account at around 2950(not completed 3k intentionally) to just dump em all.:)
I've found that often the best ones are the small tasks for 40 points that can generally be done in 1 attack. As far as points per attack go it seems to be the way to go.
Please, Supercell, stop trying to force me to play the stupid base, I don't like it and I wouldn't miss it if it were removed from the game altogether, and my clanmates share this view as well. Please, stop this nonsense. :thumbsdown:
Agreed. Unfortunately I do not see many.
The biggest issue I have is that you typically have to do TWICE as many attacks in the BB to get the same points as in the MV. So for example in the MV its 12 stars for 600 points and in the BB its 24 stars for 500 points.
While I understand the armies train faster in the BB this doesn't change the fact that the player has to play twice as much to get the same number of points. This is why it feels like such a grind compared to the normal games.
Disgust is a strong word.. but relatively speaking, regarding these clan games, I'm disgusted with SC. Please stop forcing the BB on us. I'm finding very few people enjoying it. I bounce between 2 high level clans and literally 1 out of 98 people I know actually enjoy this. Personally I only do it to keep up with the Jones and also because I fear it's going to tie into the MV more and more. Im just so put off by this, i have 2 villages that just upgraded their THs, and finding time to farm and do stupid BB is very difficult. But if I want to stay in clans i have to participate or get the boot. So thanks for that SC.
Come back after one day and I’m so glad to see we are still studying English 101. The definition of the word blah blah blah, the analogy of the situation blah blah blah😂aren’t we all high and mighty and eager to win an argument? For those of you who actually spent hours and hours on this thread since yesterday, arguing and replying to everyone who has a different opinion than you, please keep in mind that there are many roads to Rome, not to mention most people are just stating how they feel. As players, don’t we all entitle to express that? Who quit and make you CEO of Supercell, that you get to police other people’s opinion?
Anyway, this round of clan games still sucks🤷♥♀️SC I’m sure I don’t have to say anything else, if you want to keep your players, just improve upon it during the next round. Peace out before some holy Mary start lecturing me again about the choice of words I used. I don’t have a Ph D degree yet, I’d better hide.😂
I'll admit, I don't like the BB game much, at all really, but I understand there's some that do, so I participate in them for the good of my clan.
I'm finding that if you don't care about trophies you just drop down and it's way easier to do the tasks, the hardest part is the waiting between attacks. If I don't use my hero guy then it's not as bad cuz I don't have to wait for him to regenerate, so takes roughly 3-4 min per attack.
So for example I picked a challenge that is, knock off 6 guard posts in 1 hr, so I pick that one and I just sniped the guard posts as quickly as I can, took me a little over half an hour and it's worth like 100 pts or something like that. So not too bad, yah I lose a lot of trophies but that makes zero difference to me and it helps my clanmates and maybe I get another book or something to add to my collection out of it.
HEY SUPERCELL... so considering you forced the BB base games on all of us this time will you be doing just ALL Reg Base challenges for next Clan Games???
I know that some have complained of difficulty and to that end, your thoughts (and others' about dropping trophies) do make sense. But, I think the larger issue is two fold. First and foremost, the tedious nature of doing challenges in a mode that you don't even like. And second, the smaller rewards causing players to have to do more of the challenges to reach their goals.
For me, I'm having absolutely no difficulty doing any of the challenges and I'm currently at 4,500 trophies. If I'm going to play this base, I want my time spent paid back in getting the maximum amount of loot I can. So, dropping makes 0 sense. But staying online for the better part of hours doing 100 and 175 challenges over and over is tiresome.
Clan Games should be fun if it ain't fun then we are playing it wrong or the mechanics of the CG is bad.
War is challenge, Clangames is not!
It's not a contest clan vs. clan but a clan cooperation within the clan with enjoyment getting the minimum rewards and repeat.
Honestly I hate this version of clangames the BB edition, why? Not all players play, like, or seriously playing BB but most of us are playing the main base. It's hard to gather points on our part due to this because it is strictly for BB most of us don't like to play bb.
This clan games is by far the personally worst that has happened for several reasons.
1. The points awarded are ridiculously small for large challenges.
2. Since BH8 has been released, the people who gemmed their builder halls to level 8 will be appearing at every trophy level that's worth anything. Basically the new defenses and structures will make it even harder for the non-gemmers to complete any challenges.
3. A segregated clan games is just a poor idea to begin with. (The same case if it was home village only, but this is far worse just because of the fact that 1, 2, 4 and 5 don't apply to the home village challenges typically) 3.1 Not everyone likes or even tolerates the builder base, some players outright despise the builder base.
4. There is far less of the buildings that need to be destroyed in the builder base than the home village, but the amount players are told to destroy is virtually the same.
5. (Assists 1-4 further) It also doesn't help that even if you don't use your entire army, in fact even if you don't use it at all but just use the battle machine instead, it still behaves like you expended your ENTIRE army and will retrain an entire army as such. (Which is completely stupid segregated clan games or not)
6. A cap of 3000 again? For this clan games that is tragically miniscule.... how about letting those few who like the builder base carry their clan mates who don't care for it? It'd be a good opportunity for the BB gemmers and BB addicts to capitalize on their love of the builder base lol
Yes, this particular one is completely BB focused. I was just as surprised on the realization, too. It is what it is. I'm all for experimenting, but I hope this fails so hard that they never attempt this particular thing ever again.
As someone who does not play BH often my contribution is trashing the difficult challenges so my clan mates can have easy
ones. My challenge cooldown is up to 50m on both of my accounts.
I did 4 of the "remove 5 obstacles" in a row this morning. Did one, and then another would pop right up! :p It does seem that they are rarer but maybe that's because others in your clan have figured out that these are really the best ones to be doing. That's even more true with the big ones being reduced to 500 points. Either way this concept can be applied to any challenge that you take. Try to estimate how many attacks it will take you to complete the challenge and divide the points by that number. Then pick the one with the highest points per attack.
FWIW, I just hit 3k on my main. I didn't do a single one of the 1 hour tasks and trashed some here and there as well as taking some of the hour ones just before going to bed to get the free trash basically. My clan is about half way through tier 5 currently and I think we should be able to make it the rest of the way. Despite being someone who loves the builder base I'm not overly fond of just having the builder base exclusive challenges. I don't think I'd like main village exclusivity either. It just makes it feel like too much of a grind.
If, there's going to be a specific focus like main village only, builder base only, etc then I would like to see the clan games be shorter versions. The feedback for the games has be passed on ad nauseum to SC so I hope that next time we get a focused clan games that the feedback has been taken into full consideration. I like the idea of clan games but I hate to see so many people struggle with them or for it to become tedious instead of fun. This is basically what has happened in CR with the crown chest as it's just a weekly grind for sub par rewards.
With the very small number of players that would have the Mega Tesla built, why was it included in the BB clan games? In our clan (and probably 99% of all clans) it just takes up a slot that could have been filled by another challenge.
138 pages of mostly complaints this has to say something about the failure of the BH.
I thought I was in the silent minority that only thought it was a poor attempt as a side game. It seems I'm basically in the majority on this forum. Builder games is awful never have I logged in so much and disliked it so much at the same time. I literally am just taking % challenges making a couple lines of minions closing the app and waiting for the game to say my army is ready.
Trash it, wait 10 minutes resume with games
Some challenges are more suited to lower BH levels. A BH2 could knock out "Destroy 30 builder halls in 1 hr" because it takes no time between battles. The mega tesla is more suited to someone over 5k trophies, where everyone has it.
I've taken 2. And failed both by letting them time out when I'm not playing. I'd have more of an annoyance with that and the PEKKA task if trashing wasn't an option
One of my minis is a bh7 in 4000 and Im getting tons of bh8 challenges, no matter how many times I skip.
I'm somewhere between 4500 and 4600. I'm in the clouds on the main base so I can't give you the exact number. And 90% of the bases I get have the mega tesla. It was like that yesterday and today. The previous days, not so much. So, yes, I'm sure everyone over 5k has one. (I see your bold and your underline and raise you an italics).
And at least half the ones I see are level 4, so they bought the pack. I've even come across one guy with all level 16 troops with air bombs, 2 firecrackers, roaster, multi mortar all level 8. Wish I'd have bookmarked his clan. He was a crappy attacker, though.
Ok. Plenty of 'I love bbase...I despise bbase.' Here's another take. As a Co in every clan I've been in, I put in Solid time on Clash. Donating, strat help, base reads, managing war map. Posting FC's so Team can practice. Ensuring clan is happy and content. Managing our roster, reds, keeping track of games participation. Recruiting in globaltown. Spending time in the chat w our Team.
I do not want to add time, what precious I have left, to the bbase. And That! should be OK. Don't force this. Creatives, now bbase smackdown. Not the game so many fell in love with.
Nice thinking with this cg.Every clan games must be like this one...this is the only way to reduce the clouds in legend and titan 1.No more 2 hours for searching to get 1 base to attack.The bb must be used only for events like this and more(maybe in the near future you will make the bb to be able to play with it in war too).Again,nice job I have th11 alomost max and bh 8(yesterday made it).The only thing I can say is only nice job,those almost 2 hours when is cg in legend are over the search is almost as it was before the cg appear (normal).
I did not buy the BH8 Value Pack yet on both my accounts I have the level 1 Mega Tesla. It was 3 million and 1 day. So it was a good thing to spend loot on so I don't overflow or have to gem.
I am only at 4500 and 80% of the bases I attack have the Mega Tesla (maybe more like 90%).
Good point, but I would take it one step further and say it would be nice in future games if SC would let us choose where to put the gold and elixir rewards, either Bh or Th or a combination of both.
Ah, your clan has it easy then. Just visit those low level Bh bases and knock out the points very easily. You have it much easier than those who play higher in trophies.
The main problem I have now is trying to choose between whether to play Bh for some points or instead be in the clouds looking for a legends match. I do one Bh attack after each legends match but it isn't adding up to much.
Add me to the list that hates this clan games and builder base. Both the clans I'm in all feel the same way. Never again please supercell!!!!
Most of the 1 hour challenges are terrible. These tasks need way better rebalancing.
Best comment so far..that I've read....this BB clan games feels like punishment....lol
Outside of those with baby BB....where there is practically no wait....we have been forced to do only 8 hr and longer quests. The 1 hr are just too hard to complete unless you have a low BB base. Heros take 9+ minutes to regen...so we are talking 6 attacks max an hour? And this is if you can sit there and play for an hour straight. True boosting with clock tower helps...but it seems like whenever I boost, I end up with matches that are using 24 archers 1 by 1....sheesh..... Because of this our entire clan is only doing 8 hr and longer quests.
Hopefully we'll get the hero....but at 500 points each day (if I complete the 2 day quests in 1 day)....
I need to try the trick people are talking about just trashing the quests until all of the tree clean up ones appear....haven't seen one of these yet...this games
I too do not like clan games this time! Will def be a challenge!
Challenge timers need to be re-balanced. This is the type of stuff that shouldn't be released to public because it should have been fleshed out in a test environment before release. Devs that actually play the game would probably know the timers are unrealistic, but definitely would if they tested them.
Also, let's never repeat a "Builder Base only" Clan Games ever again. And I say that as my clan's top BB player.
1 hr challenges suck- everyone high is just dropping cups now and makes it impossible for low level B.B. to even win any. Worst clan games ever. My whole clan looked at the BB challenges like the black jellybean of the bag in previous clan games, now the whole bag is junk.
Builder Games only should NOT be released again... EVER... If SuperCell wants to encourage players to play BB, do something else. Players should get to earn points in home & builder base based on their choice. Lots of folks, including me, feel that this is being forced upon us to play in BB. BAD idea. People wants options. Please take note!
I’m quitting the Builder Base for good after these Games - they’ve done nothing but highlight just how P2W the nature of BB really is.
I’m absolutely sick of playing PvP with the odds stacked so heavily in favour of those that bought the BH8 pack; spending hours losing trophies isn’t fun.
Builder Base has evolved from a fun, fast-paced alternative to the Main Village, into a tedious, joyless, and incredibly repetitive spam-grind.
I used to love the Builder Base too, despite its errant AI and copy/paste internet base designs. Now it just annoys the hell outta me - so time to move on.
Darian, this is the worst celebration idea ever - builder games - what a nonsence - monotonous and boring waste of time
Well i hope supercell finally sees how un popular the builder base really is..lol i tried to find a clan that was doing builder games so i could attack and leave and mooch off of them...trouble is i couldnt find any clan with more than 800 points or 3 or4 people acually trying..