Builder Games - March 8th - March 12th

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Originally Posted by Reefus

Actually, coercion is persuading someone to do something by threat or force. Saying you feel pressure to participate is honest, and it’s human nature to want to help your mates. But it’s not coercion and it’s not force.

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Force is not only physical, you may be forced to sell you house and buy a cheaper one If you want to keep your expensive car. the use of the word force in the previous sentence is the same as is used by the person who made the statement we are discussing. In both situations there is a choice, and there is no physical threat, forced is being used in the sense If i want or want to avoid x, Im forced to do y.

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Originally Posted by erethizon

People don't enjoy the builder base because they have a preconceived notion of what it "should" be like. If they entered with an open mind and just enjoyed it for what it is they would likely have a much better time. Part of the purpose of this set of games is to get people to give the BB another chance. Too many people decided they are not going to like it and stopped playing. If they just ran a BB raid here and there while waiting for their main army to build (which is what the BB was made for) it would grow on them over time.

A common BB complaint is that it is too simple. It is simple because the base is small. TH4 was simple too, but people still stuck it out. BH8 just came out so the BB is the least simple it has ever been. It is time for people that decided they don't like it to give it another serious try. Thus, this set of clan games. You will get a lot of BB practice earning your 3000 points and may come to enjoy it (especially if you go in with a mindset that you will enjoy it). Going in with a mindset that says it is going to be terrible is just going to make this set of games feel like a job. Allow yourself to enjoy it and you will.

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People don't like the BB because the matching is absurd.
I took my mini as a BB 06 to 3600 points. Was siting in the top for a while.
Had some great battles, won some, lost some no problem.
BB07 gets released and as I stay at 06 to Farm walls and complete my base all I get is
maxed to semi maxed 07's that are 100% me every raid.
I had to drop to 2300 before I found my first 06.
Even the 07's I find down here have never got past 2400 points and have 1200 attacks won.
These people are just camping and taking out easy pray.
Not enough reason for these people to push trophies.
Now with 08 released it will be worse.

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Originally Posted by Drkhossain

Its just an answer one of ur question.

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my statement was that there is no bar to you choosing whether to war just as there is no bar to whether you play clan games. Unless you’re under th6, that is pretty irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Force is not only physical, you may be forced to sell you house and buy a cheaper one If you want to keep your expensive car. the use of the word force in the previous sentence is the same as is used by the person who made the statement we are discussing. In both situations there is a choice, and there is no physical threat, forced is being used in the sense If i want or want to avoid x, Im forced to do y.

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your definition of force swallows the whole game.

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Originally Posted by Reefus

my statement was that there is no bar to you choosing whether to war just as there is no bar to whether you play clan games. Unless you’re under th6, that is pretty irrelevant.

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What happens if they notify you on prep day that you won't be attacking with main village troops, but rather builder base troops. I think that is the better analogy.

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Originally Posted by Reefus

your definition of force swallows the whole game.

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i dont understand why your struggling so much with the word forced, the term is very common.

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my parents forced me to do my homework

my girlfriend forced me to sit through the notebook.

force is used commonly in the english language as an expresion for someone using pressure/orders/power/pleading/etc to get you to do something you dont want to do.

and even If you could prove force was not technically being used correctly, the individuals point is he is upset that he will end up doing something he doesnt enjoy and he feels this isnt a smart move by supercell, and to jump on him and say "your not forced" really doesnt have relevance to what his point is. And that would be If you were right, and your not.

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Originally Posted by Praveenkumar12

By that means living life is optional as well. So I might as well commit suicide? Come on this is absolute definition of forcing someone.

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You should be ashamed of yourself for making that remark. VERY ashamed.

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Force is not only physical, you may be forced to sell you house and buy a cheaper one If you want to keep your expensive car. the use of the word force in the previous sentence is the same as is used by the person who made the statement we are discussing. In both situations there is a choice, and there is no physical threat, forced is being used in the sense If i want or want to avoid x, Im forced to do y.

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No matter what analogy you try to conjure, SC is still not using force. Continuing the argument is petty.

Even in your analogy it is still not force, especially since said hypothetical person decided to purchase an expensive car preventing them from covering the cost of their house. Poor personal decisions, are still personal decisions and not force.

If you don't want to play builder base games, then don't play. You can complain all you want about not getting the reward for playing builder base games, but in no way shape or form is it considered force: noun - coercion or compulsion, especially with the use or threat of violence

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

my parents forced me to do my homework

my girlfriend forced me to sit through the notebook.

force is used commonly in the english language as an expresion for someone using pressure/orders/power/pleading/etc to get you to do something you dont want to do.

and even If you could prove force was not technically being used correctly, the individuals point is he is upset that he will end up doing something he doesnt enjoy and he feels this isnt a smart move by supercell, and to jump on him and say "your not forced" really doesnt have relevance to what his point is. And that would be If you were right, and your not.

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Are you saying your parents physically beat you or threatened to beat you for not doing your homework?

Are you saying your girlfriend tied you to a chair, strapped your head in the direction of the display, and tapped your eyes open so you had to watch the notebook?

Force may be a commonly used word in the English language, but a lot of people use it in the form of hyperbole and almost never mean it literally. The other person alluded to being forced, and he and others are correcting the incorrect statement of force.

Great stuff again, supercell! So much fun to be had with this game lately.

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Originally Posted by Shadrach777

No matter what analogy you try to conjure, SC is still not using force. Continuing the argument is petty.

Even in your analogy it is still not force, especially since said hypothetical person decided to purchase an expensive car preventing them from covering the cost of their house. Poor personal decisions, are still personal decisions and not force.

If you don't want to play builder base games, then don't play. You can complain all you want about not getting the reward for playing builder base games, but in no way shape or form is it considered force: noun - coercion or compulsion, especially with the use or threat of violence

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Im not complaining about playing the builder base or not getting rewards, a forumer posted a complaint, correctly using the term force, another forumer told him he was using the term incorrectly which I agree is petty.

My arguments above I feel illustrate the usuage was correct, however I agree further discussion should be based on the content of the complaint, not on the technical correctness of the word force.