Leader need helps from supercell

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Originally Posted by JustGreat

what is your(SC) definition of managing a clan ? we have no tools for that, all we can do is to kick people and send limited clan messages.
Why doesn't SC think about providing to leaders more tools for clan management instead of just proving more troop levels at each update ? how can a leader manage the clan games if he can't select who will participate and he can't set a minimum points required by players etc.....All he can do is to kick someone after clan games if this person made only 40 pts to get the rewards, but it will be too late, this is not called a clan management.
We need more tools for wars and clan games, for wars, we can't even clear troops from clan castles if a player put something bad, we can't know who put it to kick him out, we don't have a target selector to specify to each member what target he should take etc....
I am sorry but honestly with no management tools, you can't talk about managing a clan.
Any hope that one day SC provide more options for leader to really manage a clan, more than kicking people and sending clan messages and changing the clan description ?

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There is no tool for kind words. Too many rules might create tension and frustration in clan mates after some time.
And one day you will end up with having no clan mates. Remember every clan mate takes efforts to make your clan successful. Leader is just a position. You have to earn your respect in clan if you want your clan mates to fallow the path you choose.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

You seem to be confusing management with micromanagement here.

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Hey Tomville, you are coming from the perspective of a mature established adult clan in which virtually clan management is only needed through communication. Rarely, there is a need for enforcement, rarely, there is a need for generating a report about who attacked and who did not, who contributed and how much...

For newer clans or for clans that accept kids, from my humble experience, clan management is both lacking and tedious. I am speaking as a long-time experienced leader who managed many clans.

When it comes to an established adult clan, i can see how the use of such tools can be seen as unnecessary micro-management. But for newer clans, or clans accepting kids, these are life-saving tool for the leader. These tools are important for the growth of the game.

One good example, is the reports that are generated in boom beach game that shows an evaluation of individual activity over a selected span of time. If boom beach has it, why can’t clash of clans generate such report. Thank you for your always support of this forum.

Some people cant play the game that often beacuse of work. It would be unfair if they were kicked for not getting many points. Of course, people who play the game more often, have way more points.

Ooooooo earning 40 points is a lot effort to do.......and earning 3000 points is bit easy infront of those 40.....as your clan will reach to max just because of those 40...not because of those 3000...i think there is no point to do 3000 as you cant reach to max tier without those 40.....great thinking guys...

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Originally Posted by istix

Would you manage fares and train freeriders with communication ?

Also note that leaders actually have no 'power', and even if they had the power, it seems quite dictatorial that someone do something just because another said so, it isn't it? It is a bit contradictory your statement, you say 'just speak to them' but at the same times it seems you imply that everyone should 'follow' a leader. Very contradictory.

Also, what about clan with less than 25 members, are they selfish to think that a 'take a challenge and leave' player should not get the reward just for being in a clan at the right moment ?

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My clan has 23 members and we didn't recruit any for the CG however I would not have a problem with someone joining and helping with CG if it helps us get better rewards. If they wish to leave after that then fine, we have our core members who will remain so as far as I can see, it helps both sides. What's not to like ??

The leaders role is to lead isn't it ? That's the whole point of it. However, you can do this perfectly well by talking to people in a calm and civilised manner and laying out the clan rules (if any). Discussion can solve a lot of issues (although on here it just seems to exacerbate them!). If people don't wish to follow my lead they are perfectly at liberty to click the leave button any time they wish. I've had 3 people leave in a year and two of those requested to join again.........

Train free riders - You're paying for a service (well, meant to be). Using the service without paying for it is theft. Nobody is paying you as a player to participate in CG.

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Originally Posted by zaheerr

Everyone says it's leader responsibility to manage clan about clan game points so plz supercell give leaders some option to set min clan point needed to collect rewards. It's annoying to see people do only 50 points.

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Why do you need such assistance it is the clans leadership responsibility : you have co-leaders, elders etc... to help you enforce your clan rules. Send an email and monitor - no different than sending war instructions.

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Originally Posted by HaveANiceDay

Hey Tomville, you are coming from the perspective of a mature established adult clan in which virtually clan management is only needed through communication. Rarely, there is a need for enforcement, rarely, there is a need for generating a report about who attacked and who did not, who contributed and how much...

For newer clans or for clans that accept kids, from my humble experience, clan management is both lacking and tedious. I am speaking as a long-time experienced leader who managed many clans.

When it comes to an established adult clan, i can see how the use of such tools can be seen as unnecessary micro-management. But for newer clans, or clans accepting kids, these are life-saving tool for the leader. These tools are important for the growth of the game.

One good example, is the reports that are generated in boom beach game that shows an evaluation of individual activity over a selected span of time. If boom beach has it, why can’t clash of clans generate such report. Thank you for your always support of this forum.

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Certainly SC don't want to give this type of tools in wrong hands.

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Originally Posted by Unfettered

Why do you need such assistance it is the clans leadership responsibility : you have co-leaders, elders etc... to help you enforce your clan rules. Send an email and monitor - no different than sending war instructions.

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This type things are good for big clanss....where hopper become loyal players......where players are afraid of getting kicked....where players dream to join...if that clan send a recruitment msg in global ....players beg to join....but you guys ever think of clan.....where recruitment is tough...no body wants to join....where players donot care about getting kick as they can find new clan

Guys in COC every clan is not of high lvl....there are smaller clans which have to face these problems

As long as the leader had to set the rules before the games started and they were clear to everyone before they decided to enter into that clan's games, I think it would be a good idea to let leaders set minimum point requirements to get certain rewards or certain tiers. I don't see my clan making use of it. We don't need it, but I can't think of any good reason for me to object to the option to be there for other clans to use if they wish (again, as long as they cannot change it after someone has decided to join that clan's game).

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Originally Posted by 2222

As long as the leader had to set the rules before the games started and they were clear to everyone before they decided to enter into that clan's games, I think it would be a good idea to let leaders set minimum point requirements to get certain rewards or certain tiers. I don't see my clan making use of it. We don't need it, but I can't think of any good reason for me to object to the option to be there for other clans to use if they wish (again, as long as they cannot change it after someone has decided to join that clan's game).

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Yeah but it's not workable is it ?

You don't see the rewards until after the games have started. There must be thousands of clans without any members here to read what Darian posts about the CG's and in any case, I can't see that continuing indefinitely. How can you set a minimum level of participation before you know how much participation you're gonna need ?

Or have I missed something ?