Leader need helps from supercell

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February 22nd, 2018
ChampionDevil

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

And why you need hope? If leader and co-leaders can ask him some straight question about his progress in clan game participation?

I asked 1 player why are you not playing games....he told me.... his spell factory is on upgrade.....i told him to play builder base challenges...than he play just 1 game and goes offline......he is right at his place because he know ...he is going to get full rewards...either he contribute less or more
February 22nd, 2018
CaptainJackjr

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Originally Posted by ChampionDevil

I asked 1 player why are you not playing games....he told me.... his spell factory is on upgrade.....i told him to play builder base challenges...than he play just 1 game and goes offline......he is right at his place because he know ...he is going to get full rewards...either he contribute less or more

I don't think that player really do care about your clan or your leadership. players who really care about clan will help clan any way he can to reach high tier. Or will talk to leader if he have any personal problem.
February 22nd, 2018
JustGreat

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

This is something we are very unlikely to implement. With the Clan Games rewards, everyone wins as a Clan and everyone loses as a Clan...together. It's a collaborative effort that everyone is contributing to and is meant to reward the Clan as a whole, not the individual. It is up to the Clan leadership to manage their Clans in a manner they see fit, through communication.

As it has already been mentioned, it would be very unfair for someone to be removed for not meeting some point requirement if that person's points helped the Clan reach a higher tier of rewards. Everyone's points all contribute towards reaching that reward tier, whether you contributed 3000 or 300 or 50.

what is your(SC) definition of managing a clan ? we have no tools for that, all we can do is to kick people and send limited clan messages.
Why doesn't SC think about providing to leaders more tools for clan management instead of just proving more troop levels at each update ? how can a leader manage the clan games if he can't select who will participate and he can't set a minimum points required by players etc.....All he can do is to kick someone after clan games if this person made only 40 pts to get the rewards, but it will be too late, this is not called a clan management.
We need more tools for wars and clan games, for wars, we can't even clear troops from clan castles if a player put something bad, we can't know who put it to kick him out, we don't have a target selector to specify to each member what target he should take etc....
I am sorry but honestly with no management tools, you can't talk about managing a clan.
Any hope that one day SC provide more options for leader to really manage a clan, more than kicking people and sending clan messages and changing the clan description ?
February 22nd, 2018
Piper139

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Originally Posted by ChampionDevil

I asked 1 player why are you not playing games....he told me.... his spell factory is on upgrade.....i told him to play builder base challenges...than he play just 1 game and goes offline......he is right at his place because he know ...he is going to get full rewards...either he contribute less or more

Does that person contribute to your clan in other ways? Good at war? Good donator? Chat and help others? If so, then you have to decide whether that is enough. If not, they are just taking up space in your clan.
February 22nd, 2018
Tomville

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Originally Posted by JustGreat

what is your(SC) definition of managing a clan ? we have no tools for that, all we can do is to kick people and send limited clan messages.
Why doesn't SC think about providing to leaders more tools for clan management instead of just proving more troop levels at each update ? how can a leader manage the clan games if he can't select who will participate and he can't set a minimum points required by players etc.....All he can do is to kick someone after clan games if this person made only 40 pts to get the rewards, but it will be too late, this is not called a clan management.
We need more tools for wars and clan games, for wars, we can't even clear troops from clan castles if a player put something bad, we can't know who put it to kick him out, we don't have a target selector to specify to each member what target he should take etc....
I am sorry but honestly with no management tools, you can't talk about managing a clan.
Any hope that one day SC provide more options for leader to really manage a clan, more than kicking people and sending clan messages and changing the clan description ?

You seem to be confusing management with micromanagement here.
February 22nd, 2018
Ripple1972

Maybe all the “leaders” should learn how to lead.
February 22nd, 2018
gaz1966

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Originally Posted by JustGreat

what is your(SC) definition of managing a clan ? we have no tools for that, all we can do is to kick people and send limited clan messages.
Why doesn't SC think about providing to leaders more tools for clan management instead of just proving more troop levels at each update ? how can a leader manage the clan games if he can't select who will participate and he can't set a minimum points required by players etc.....All he can do is to kick someone after clan games if this person made only 40 pts to get the rewards, but it will be too late, this is not called a clan management.
We need more tools for wars and clan games, for wars, we can't even clear troops from clan castles if a player put something bad, we can't know who put it to kick him out, we don't have a target selector to specify to each member what target he should take etc....
I am sorry but honestly with no management tools, you can't talk about managing a clan.
Any hope that one day SC provide more options for leader to really manage a clan, more than kicking people and sending clan messages and changing the clan description ?

Err, it says in the post by Darian that you quoted. Specifically "Through communication". You have clan chat don't you and clan mail ? Use it effectively. It's the only "tool" I need to manage my clan.

BTW, if you have people donating the wrong things to war cc's or picking the wrong targets then yeah, you're not managing your clan effectively because both of those are solved with effective communication, followed by a kick if the communication has no effect.

So what if someone only made 40 points ? As long as you hit the tier you were after then there's no problem right ? Other than your own selfishness that someone should get a reward that you feel they don't deserve, in spite of the fact that by virtue of the way clan games are set up, they very definitely do deserve it.
February 22nd, 2018
Vaibhav998

Okay, an idea. Not sure if it would work.
What if we assign value to relative contribution?
Suppose a clan collects 60k points and final tier is at 75k. That is roughly around 80%.
Now all those who scored above 80% of individual cap i.e. 2400 will get the rewards of final tier. But if you are sitting at 70% or 2100, you will get rewards from equivalent tier( 52k... i.e. tier 7).
February 22nd, 2018
XtremeGamer234

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Originally Posted by Vaibhav998

Okay, an idea. Not sure if it would work.
What if we assign value to relative contribution?
Suppose a clan collects 60k points and final tier is at 75k. That is roughly around 80%.
Now all those who scored above 80% of individual cap i.e. 2400 will get the rewards of final tier. But if you are sitting at 70% or 2100, you will get rewards from equivalent tier( 52k... i.e. tier 7).

No, I totally disagree with this. As Darian said, what if you couldn't have reached the final tier if that "less contributing" player of yours hadn't contributed at that moment to get your clan through the line?
I don't understand why y'all don't get my point, which is the point of many others, even Darian, as well. :facepalm:
February 22nd, 2018
istix

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Originally Posted by gaz1966

Err, it says in the post by Darian that you quoted. Specifically "Through communication". You have clan chat don't you and clan mail ? Use it effectively. It's the only "tool" I need to manage my clan.

BTW, if you have people donating the wrong things to war cc's or picking the wrong targets then yeah, you're not managing your clan effectively because both of those are solved with effective communication, followed by a kick if the communication has no effect.

So what if someone only made 40 points ? As long as you hit the tier you were after then there's no problem right ? Other than your own selfishness that someone should get a reward that you feel they don't deserve, in spite of the fact that by virtue of the way clan games are set up, they very definitely do deserve it.

Would you manage fares and train freeriders with communication ?

Also note that leaders actually have no 'power', and even if they had the power, it seems quite dictatorial that someone do something just because another said so, it isn't it? It is a bit contradictory your statement, you say 'just speak to them' but at the same times it seems you imply that everyone should 'follow' a leader. Very contradictory.

Also, what about clan with less than 25 members, are they selfish to think that a 'take a challenge and leave' player should not get the reward just for being in a clan at the right moment ?

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