Leader need helps from supercell

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February 24th, 2018
CaptainJackjr

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Originally Posted by RhaegarTargaryen

It doesn't make it into an individual game. Clanmates still have to work together. It just encourages participation from those who would rather reap benefits without contribution. It also helps set an expectation for what is needed to reach the final rewards. You have said yourself that nobody NEEDS the rewards. There are two options for players who don't want to reach the minimum - don't participate, or switch clans. It's really not about keeping them from rewards as it is ensuring the clan reaches the goal tier for the games.

When I was trying to explain this feature. One player asked me one question I don't know why any good clan management will do that. But still a Situation 'what if one player get agree with leader's min.500. after contributing 400. Leader or Co decides to kick that player. Now His contribution is locked with that clan he'll not get any reward because min. is 500 to get rewards.' whats your opinion on this situation?
February 24th, 2018
RhaegarTargaryen

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

When I was trying to explain this feature. One player asked me one question I don't know why any good clan management will do that. But still a Situation 'what if one player get agree with leader's min.500. after contributing 400. Leader or Co decides to kick that player. Now His contribution is locked with that clan he'll not get any reward because min. is 500 to get rewards.' whats your opinion on this situation?

That's the best question regarding this feature that I've seen in this whole thread. I suppose there would have to be a way to unbind oneself from the games and start over in a new clan. Although technically, this issue is happening currently without a minimum. A player can be kicked after starting a challenge, but before completing and not be able to get any rewards in any clan. I think this issue needs to be addressed in general, regardless of such a feature being instituted.
February 24th, 2018
Imddk

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

When I was trying to explain this feature. One player asked me one question I don't know why any good clan management will do that. But still a Situation 'what if one player get agree with leader's min.500. after contributing 400. Leader or Co decides to kick that player. Now His contribution is locked with that clan he'll not any reward because min. is 500 to get rewards.' whats your opinion on this situation?

yeah that situation was very disappointed. What to do ?? In my clan I don't kick anyone except hoppers(they deserve kick out)
February 24th, 2018
MamaTanya30

Same issue will be so happy to see this fixed or adjusted
February 24th, 2018
Imddk

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Originally Posted by MamaTanya30

Same issue will be so happy to see this fixed or adjusted

which issue?? may be we can fix just don't recruit player's when clan games are continuing , that's it do as much you can clan game point
February 24th, 2018
2222

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Originally Posted by gaz1966

There is a difference between sending a clan mail or a chat message suggesting a minimum contribution and a setting that actually enforces that contribution. The former is absolutely fine, the latter isn't. You should not be able to make a player do something that they don't want to do.

It isn’t ok in your opinion, but many others would be fine with it and it wouldn’t force a player to do something they don’t want to do. They have the option to join that clan’s game or not after they look to see what that clan has the rules set as.

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Originally Posted by gaz1966

What I do have a problem with, is some sort of enforceable minimum limit. That stops it being a CLAN game and makes it into an INDIVIDUAL game. People should want to help their clan mates to progress because that makes them stronger and thus makes the whole clan stronger. Why anyone would want anything different is completely beyond me.

I don’t know why players hop around and just get troops and leave. I don’t know why they join wars and don’t attack. I don’t know why they join clans and do one small task then do nothing else and take the full rewards. I do know why some clans would like to prevent that from happening in their own clan and I don’t understand why I or anyone else should care whether they have the ability to do that.

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

When I was trying to explain this feature. One player asked me one question I don't know why any good clan management will do that. But still a Situation 'what if one player get agree with leader's min.500. after contributing 400. Leader or Co decides to kick that player. Now His contribution is locked with that clan he'll not get any reward because min. is 500 to get rewards.' whats your opinion on this situation?

Ah, now we get into the details of how it would be implemented and, yes, things like that would need to be addressed. For example, it could be if the player is kicked and they haven’t yet qualified for that clan’s rewards (due to the setting), they are free to join another war. Those types of things can be worked out, not to mention players who are worried about that could choose not to be in clans that set such rules unless they have been there so long they know and trust the leader and are not worried about it.
February 24th, 2018
Unfettered

Having followed this discussion it seems to becoming a bit academic given Darians position:

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...8#post11461888

"This is something we are very unlikely to implement. With the Clan Games rewards, everyone wins as a Clan and everyone loses as a Clan...together. It's a collaborative effort that everyone is contributing to and is meant to reward the Clan as a whole, not the individual. It is up to the Clan leadership to manage their Clans in a manner they see fit, through communication.

As it has already been mentioned, it would be very unfair for someone to be removed for not meeting some point requirement if that person's points helped the Clan reach a higher tier of rewards. Everyone's points all contribute towards reaching that reward tier, whether you contributed 3000 or 300 or 50."
February 24th, 2018
Gorbash098

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

When I was trying to explain this feature. One player asked me one question I don't know why any good clan management will do that. But still a Situation 'what if one player get agree with leader's min.500. after contributing 400. Leader or Co decides to kick that player. Now His contribution is locked with that clan he'll not get any reward because min. is 500 to get rewards.' whats your opinion on this situation?

This can be prevented by not allowing clans to keep the points of those that did not reached their minimum. I believe that this facet of the feature have been suggested in this thread before. If a leader is going to decide that those who does not meet the minimum does not get rewards then it is only fair that the clan does not benefit from the points earned by those players.

It is easy to find extreme corner cases for a particular situation. However, the question that should be asked is how often will these scenarios occur? Unless a clan is run by immature children I do not see how a leader will have justification to kick a player prior to getting the minimum just for the sake of kicking that person. A more rational leader will first weight the pros and cons of kicking a player that have not reached their minimum. Sometimes a leader may decide to kick a player simply because that player is detrimental to the dynamics of the clan but that would mean the leader will have justification to do so.
February 25th, 2018
CaptainJackjr

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

This can be prevented by not allowing clans to keep the points of those that did not reached their minimum. I believe that this facet of the feature have been suggested in this thread before. If a leader is going to decide that those who does not meet the minimum does not get rewards then it is only fair that the clan does not benefit from the points earned by those players.

It is easy to find extreme corner cases for a particular situation. However, the question that should be asked is how often will these scenarios occur? Unless a clan is run by immature children I do not see how a leader will have justification to kick a player prior to getting the minimum just for the sake of kicking that person. A more rational leader will first weight the pros and cons of kicking a player that have not reached their minimum. Sometimes a leader may decide to kick a player simply because that player is detrimental to the dynamics of the clan but that would mean the leader will have justification to do so.

That was me👇, I just wanted to see others opinion on this situation. I also think other clanmates will not like to stay inside such clan. They will leave clan after clan game end or they can leave after doing just minimum to punish leader.😂😂

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

I wish clan point were transferable in your case. Ok, this is all theory we can add something. Points are transferable if player get kicked before he achieve minimum points. There is always room for improvement.
February 25th, 2018
Philipzz

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Originally Posted by Darian[Supercell]

When you pay for a ride on a train, there is a 'contract' or obligation that is understood when utilizing said service. Therefore, if someone is freeriding, there is little surprise when that person is removed from the train for not obligating the understood agreement that everyone else adheres to. The policy enforcer, be it police officer or train conductor or authority figure will communicate with the violator advising them why they are being removed...sometimes forcibly if necessary.

When someone joins your Clan, it is up to the Clan leadership to set up those same expectations. Make it clear what your performance expectations are for your members, so if they do not adhere to the understood agreement then it should not be a surprise to them when they are forcibly removed from the Clan. Communicate with your Clan members what the expected participation level is.

Think, if that violator doesn't agree with agreement(3000 points in clan game) and also steals your wallet(hardwork). Do you still remove him from the train without getting back your wallet ?!

here,
agreement is achieving 3000 point each.
wallet comapre to hardwork.
free ride comapared to 50 points.

if you remove those person who not scored 3000 points (atleast 1500) and taking only 50 points. There will be no use. Because, still they can collect reward (still your wallet on his hand). So, Simply removing such a person is not be the fair solution. And can't said to be the clan leadership maintaining.

We maintain our clan and kicking such persons who score only 50 points, on every clan games. No use. Again on next clan game another one will come and do the same. And the one kicked out from our clan go for another clan to do the same 50 points cheating.

You can say we can set our clan to invite only. But, think we have only 20 members in clan and last tier achievement is 75,000 points. Without keeping our clan anyone can join how can we get some genuine playing members in our clan to complete upt tier 8.(25 members need to complete 75,000 points)

So, Over all clan game is not fair.

Some Idea's to make it fair ,

• Allow leaders to kick out them from clan game list if there score is below 500.

• Or read this idea » https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...o-make-it-fair

• Or think new idea yourself with your tech team and give us solution.

Humble request , by me and other genuine clashers. Pls consider to do some changes in clan games from those hardwork stealers. Thanks a lot in advance.

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