Clan Games Fallout

We’re 42 accounts (was 44), 12 players (was 14). The non-stop run of CGs has burned us all out. The players with multiple accounts are carrying the load while most of the others are putting in very little effort, often only running one or two challenges. It’s very disappointing when you see a player with multiple accounts maxing them out but someone with just one only puts in a single, 40-point challenge. Unfortunately, this has extended into Clan Wars as well; most players are either set to opt-out or simply no showing to both. I ended up kicking a few players for the overall lack of contribution, but primarily because they no-showed 3 CWs in a row although they were opted in (not CGs). They could get online, request troops, even do a single challenge but not opt-out of war in spite of several reminders to do so.

FWIW, I think much of this is because SC has completely burned us out on CGs this month. The 50K run was a bit much for a clan with fewer players, but 75K was just brutal. We did not bother trying for the 50K top reward tier (the prize just wasn’t worth the effort) but we made it to 52K on the 75K; the apathy among some clan mates did us in on that one.

I am also in another clan that has a much larger number of players and is very active; that clan hit 75K but it came pretty close to the wire. Ironically, the number of players to reach 3K was roughly the same on both clans. The difference really came down to the 1000-2000 point contributors.

As I mentioned, I kicked a few of the general non-contributors over the last month on my original clan and I’ve been encouraging everyone to put in as much effort as they can. I’m trying to balance the expectations here; we want to get the best of the rewards, but it’s important to keep it fun and I do not want to kick people if it can be avoided, certainly not because of CGs. I’m focusing on their contributions to CWs more than anything else. I’ve been recruiting but not seeing much interest. I had considered a merger at one point, but I have too many accounts and others have multiple accounts as well so it really isn’t viable. It would be nice to fill our last 8 slots with some active players (5 more players who go to the top of their points would be enough for us to get top tier every time with ease). I think much of this will ease once SC stops killing us with the CGs and gets it into a regular, weekly cadence, and as soon as schools let out for the summer (a few of our guys are in exams right now). What concerns me is that we’ll start losing players who want that top tier; when that starts, it’s just a matter of time until everyone is gone.

My clan only had three people even attempt the first couple clan games. We have not even looked at them after about the third one.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Skotty2times

I lead a level 7 clan with 48 members currently, we war non-stop. the last clan games were interesting. We got off to a hot start then stalled just under 50k points. I think the biggest issue is we have several casual players I believe we had about 25 people participate and about 8-9 with max points. Most everyone else was less than 2k points, and several under 1k. The only beef I had was one of our co-leaders (been with me for 2 clans and 2.5 years) only pitched in 50 points on each of his 3 accounts. He was the loudest mouth complaining about people taking rewards with minimal effort. Then he turned around and did the same thing. I wanted to demote him so bad. I think I will press the guys a little harder the next games because we can easily get max rewards.

---

This can happen when someone who offered a lot, tried to get others to do the same and see they don't, but they get the same rewards, rebels and decides to just be like the ones that didn't work as hard. Yes, he still got the same rewards on all 3 accounts, too.

So now you have to figure out, how you want to handle members that do that. There is a difference between doing it due to RL and doing it on purpose, and you have to find out which is which.

I do believe that clans will see this more and more . Some of the members that used to be all gung-ho about clan games and getting high points, even max, will begin to perform less.

We unlocked all tier but yeah many clan don't want like this event. Many players now just searching clan for higher rewards and they just going to take rewards. They wanna earn Easily.
Many players not playing CG properly they just doing 40-100 point to take rewards. We can't get Easily anything ingame or in real life. 🤣

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Holps

In response to a number of threads about Clan Games and rewards I am really interested in the views of players that either run, or help run clans regards what they intend to do going forward. I didn't really want to couch this in the style of a poll style thread but I have a few questions so it's a bit difficult to do it other than in a crude list form.

• Are you in a big clan that failed to reach the top tier due to inactive members and has it made you look at the make up of the clan and consider changes?
• Are you in a smaller clan that has decided to push for fresh blood to reach higher tiers?
• If you are in a smaller clan has this made you considered a merger?
• Have you considered leaving your clan and looking for one that achieves better rewards?
• Did you actually leave a long term clan to get better rewards?
• Did your leadership make a decision not to push or pressure players regards Clan Tasks and you are satisfied which whatever effort people made in your existing clan?
• If you have never considered leadership has this encouraged you to take control or if you are in a leadership roll has this put you off it with the extra responsibility?
• Has this changed your clan in anyway either foreseen or unforeseen?

Please don't turn this into a comment thread about Clan Games themselves (such as tier rewards etc) because there are plenty of those threads already I am really driving at how it might affect clans going forward...if at all?

---

1. 50 member clan, made top tier with two days to spare.
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. No, achieved all tiers
5. One mild group note was sent out but probably was not necessary.
6. N/A
7. N/A
8. Has for the most part just made the clan “more of what it is” to begin with. The active members stayed active, the less active stayed less active. Overall clan is active to begin with so clan games just add to activity. One note though: all legend players dropped to lower levels. Basically impossible to accomplish challenges that require several matches in legend.

The issue we face isn't uncommon. We have 48 members, of which about 15 are daily, another 10 weekly. We max at about 33k. Which makes clan games discouraging to our clan mates. It's caused a rift where their doesn't need to be one.

1- our more occasional players are now a liability against our individual and team goals. Hard not to be irratated by people who are hindering your progress...

2 - the occasional players are left feeling alienated. They might not have the time that others do, and are left feeling either obligated to participate or feel bad for not.

Answer - Supercell is driving the game towards "superclans".

This is much more serious issue. It rewards all the wrong things. I've worked hard to get my clan to where it is. There's a reason I haven't jumped to more competitive clan. I wouldn't want to sign with the Golden State Warriors either for that matter. Yet, to have a chance to obtain top goals, all the advice I've seen is "merge or purge".

Brilliant...

How about an opt in button like for clan wars, then make a realistic goal based on the participants. Works for war. We're not going 10 vs 20 are we? So why is clan games different? Unless the above is the desired outcome. I mean honestly, it's completely forseable, isn't it?

Remove the personal limit. Although it's the less desirable since your now asking the regulars to do even more, but at least makes the top tier a possibility.

The worst part of this is that I've taken the time to write and post this, and I always max my clan pts, but being maxed th11 and builder, I benefit nothing from any of it. But as it stands now, the clan games are proving divisive in my opinion.

We r a very active clan no problem reaching top. Everyone supports each other in our clan we encourage every one to at least complete 1 challenge to get the rewards. No jealousy in our clan each member contributes what they can.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by firestorm2

The issue we face isn't uncommon. We have 48 members, of which about 15 are daily, another 10 weekly. We max at about 33k. Which makes clan games discouraging to our clan mates. It's caused a rift where their doesn't need to be one.

1- our more occasional players are now a liability against our individual and team goals. Hard not to be irratated by people who are hindering your progress...

2 - the occasional players are left feeling alienated. They might not have the time that others do, and are left feeling either obligated to participate or feel bad for not.

Answer - Supercell is driving the game towards "superclans".

This is much more serious issue. It rewards all the wrong things. I've worked hard to get my clan to where it is. There's a reason I haven't jumped to more competitive clan. I wouldn't want to sign with the Golden State Warriors either for that matter. Yet, to have a chance to obtain top goals, all the advice I've seen is "merge or purge".

Brilliant...

How about an opt in button like for clan wars, then make a realistic goal based on the participants. Works for war. We're not going 10 vs 20 are we? So why is clan games different? Unless the above is the desired outcome. I mean honestly, it's completely forseable, isn't it?

Remove the personal limit. Although it's the less desirable since your now asking the regulars to do even more, but at least makes the top tier a possibility.

The worst part of this is that I've taken the time to write and post this, and I always max my clan pts, but being maxed th11 and builder, I benefit nothing from any of it. But as it stands now, the clan games are proving divisive in my opinion.

---

Agreed.

It’s not extreme, but I can see this happening.

Something added to give the game somewhat of a fun spark for those tired of a “grind” or who maybe don’t love to war, shouldn’t become an element that fundamentally changes how people play the game, in turn making it into something divisive. The games need some further tweaks, to happen a bit less often, give clan perks for games as well, or some combination of all of the above.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by firestorm2

The issue we face isn't uncommon. We have 48 members, of which about 15 are daily, another 10 weekly. We max at about 33k. Which makes clan games discouraging to our clan mates. It's caused a rift where their doesn't need to be one.

1- our more occasional players are now a liability against our individual and team goals. Hard not to be irratated by people who are hindering your progress...

2 - the occasional players are left feeling alienated. They might not have the time that others do, and are left feeling either obligated to participate or feel bad for not.

Answer - Supercell is driving the game towards "superclans".

This is much more serious issue. It rewards all the wrong things. I've worked hard to get my clan to where it is. There's a reason I haven't jumped to more competitive clan. I wouldn't want to sign with the Golden State Warriors either for that matter. Yet, to have a chance to obtain top goals, all the advice I've seen is "merge or purge".

Brilliant...

How about an opt in button like for clan wars, then make a realistic goal based on the participants. Works for war. We're not going 10 vs 20 are we? So why is clan games different? Unless the above is the desired outcome. I mean honestly, it's completely forseable, isn't it?

Remove the personal limit. Although it's the less desirable since your now asking the regulars to do even more, but at least makes the top tier a possibility.

The worst part of this is that I've taken the time to write and post this, and I always max my clan pts, but being maxed th11 and builder, I benefit nothing from any of it. But as it stands now, the clan games are proving divisive in my opinion.

---

So of 48 members, 25 of which log in a minimum of weekly? Where are the other 23? I agree the big games can be tough. However, except for one game, you can get the good stuff with 10 people maxing. I don't know that supercel can solve the problem for you. You can be casual, which definitely has an appeal. You can push people to contribute more, which in many cases is not possible due to real life. People need to remember it's a game. Not maxing the toughest games so far is not the end of the world.

Large clan 44 plus, we have a good core group of players, but we do bring in new players on a weekly bases, do to missing war attacks bad donation ratios.... we have reached top tier in every clan game.

im co i run the wars, another co runs the games. leader wants to kick those that do the bare minium to get rewards and many in the clan who work very hard and spend more time then usually playing clash to get the most points possible agree. Many of the players who get most of the clan points cant even use the rewards as theyre maxed at their th level and dont plan on moving up. Even had a long term member quit who got the max points but was upset we didnt kick the ones that did the bare minium. I also worry that eventually those working to get top points every game will stop if they see theyre r no consequences when u do 1 and stop.

Dont know how many of u recruit on global but it is were we find most of r players and lately the good ones, when they join want to know if we reach top tier in clan games. So i can see this as a problem finding good players for war if we stop working at clan games.

Problem for me is that if we kick them itll screw up my war line up, may not even have enough to come up with a balanced roster that has a chance of winning.

If we could set a minium amount that everyone had to get to recieve top tier, before the start of each game. Think that would satisfy everyone.