Allow Clan Leaders To Set Minimum Clan Points To Receive Rewards Before Clan Games.

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Originally Posted by JustGreat

It's your opinion I don't share the same thoughts....and whatever are the drawbacks the advantages are more better...cuz it's unfair to have someone making 40 pts and getting the same as someone who have 3000 pts ! You can kick him yes, but he would already profit from other players efforts ... since you can"t choose who can play or not clan game, someones can make only 40 pts and profit which is unfair. on the same time, if you have new players you can't know before you test them if they are or not good, but they will be able to play the clan games and do 40 pts and leave, and get the benefict from your clan effort....
it's not the only thing missing to be able to lead the clan, the game should provide more tools to manage a clan, like a target selector for war, a leader who can delete troops in clan war castles when someone put something wrong, to know who is giving or not trooprs for wars etc....too many helpfull tools can be added.

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Why?
What if it was their 40 pts which tipped you over the threshold? :smirk:


Also I have noticed its always ' the tall grass guys are getting ALL the TOP rewards' for just 40 points ...whaaaa whaaa whaaa it never seems to be ' because if tall grass guy ' we didn't reach the top tier.

But honestly? If that's actually true and your clan has reached top tier, why should tall grass guy bother to cap out his/her points if the top has already been reached?

And here's another thought, maybe next time the hyper kid who maxed out his three accounts on points has exams next time the BoE is available and he/she can't play as much...maybe not be able to max out his/her points? Shock horror! What a slacker!!

So the clan gets the points anyhow, great stuff, but the kid should lose out completely because the clan games coincided with exams time?

NO! Real life always comes first and the way some leaders seem to be advocating that unless you cap out your games points you shouldn't partake in any of the prizes is absolutely ludicrous. Wait till you have families, jobs, illness, children, stress, commutes, pets, in-laws...etc etc do deal with. You know, REAL stuff.

Clan games is a FREE diversion from what we normally do anyways. We get some gifts just for doing what we are doing.

Get it in perspective, will ya?

Because clan games are about participation not take a challenge and leave.

However I think that the freeloader issue is less a problem for big clans since these clans have 45+ members most of the times.

The problem here is that clan games are about participation and people simple don't participate. I don't mean that they are inactive, I mean that they don't take challenges or don't complete them.

This tool wil be very good to incentivate participation as long you can seti the minimum to zero, or a maximum, for example 1500 for this clan game.

I can't say if this idea is the best choice, after all there are people who don't play even with a book of everything offered... There is a need to incentivate active people to play and contribute more.

I agree there is need to change in clan games like .....leader should be given a tool to decide minimum points for getting rewards...........

And those who oppose OP and they say ....what's the harm if anyone gets reward for just scoring 40.......guys please share your clan tags and make your clan open in next clan games.....as its doesnot matter to you guys if someone get free things��

I'm not against booting people out of clan if they don't fit for your clan. But Idea OP shared is baseless.

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Originally Posted by Piper139

Not really. And I'm in the would want a 0 threshold option camp. Give leaders tools to define their clan. Just don't impose things on others.

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There has to be a 0 option, it's much better than the current 50 pt option. It's necessary for real life complications.

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Originally Posted by KnowProphet

This is how you deal with freeloaders. Wait for the clan games to end- let them start the next clan game, as soon as they start a challenge- kick them before they complete it and post any points. Now they’ve started clan games in your clan and can’t start them anywhere else, but they got 0 points so They get none of your rewards. They basically no sit out of clan games that round and get nothing. That’s how you teach them a lesson! Make sure you tell them in the kick message.....

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So I have to watch the game all day and wait till they start a challenge? Seems like a waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Lady Maverick

At times all you need to do is chill out.
New recruits fail to attain good points, you can kick them and make them stay from next clan games..
What if one of ur old member does the same?? Will u kick them too??? If not, why partiality??
I have 3 people in my clan who never crossed 50 points. One is in legends league, 2 in titans3.
I've been telling them, but Hey!! Rest of us always got the job done... Those who can be called as free loaders they are good at war.. and I want them to stay...(those who are good for nothing- just kick)
And as a leader, I would like to inform you, sometimes it's better to let go than fighting for it...
Coz, it's not a leaders game, it's Clan game...
As I told before one among those 3 got into highest point n this game, and when asked how come?! He simply said, I don't like clan games, I don't like to play that everyone day, but that doesn't mean I don't wanna help clan when you guys are in need. This time I changed my mind.

Where as another two people are at 100 and 40 points..
It's okay!!

When you walk out of office earning $200 that day, wont you donate $5 or even $1 to a homeless person you come across on the streets?!

Be kind, be happy, be proud that someone is getting something for less effort when a bunch of kind people gives their 100%.
Be kind, but don't be stupid enough which might make everyone in clan as freeloaders.

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I'm perfectly capable of making the distinction thank you very much.

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

1) player get war bonus loot even after he get kicked if he used his both attack but failed to secure three star.
2) what if I contribute 3000 in clan game and after that I fight with leader or I performed bad in war and He kicked me out of war.

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When you meet the minimum you get the award regardless of being kicked or not, just like the current system.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

I’m not sure why you mistook what I said as a personal attack, or felt the need to bite back so hard. I simply don’t agree on the idea of leader control tools serving as a gateway to games rewards, and did not like your way of characterising those other players. It’s good you remove people who seem not to be on the same wavelength as the majority of the clan. I just don’t believe we need any tool for automatically weeding them out, removing the need for personal clan management.

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Then why can't you just say that?

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

If leader set minimum points in clan game. Clan point table will not consider points who scored lower than minimum in clan total.
Even after you kick the person during clan games only 50 players contribute from one clan.

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So now you're inventing new rules.

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Originally Posted by Affront

What's to prevent me from kicking a player with full maximum points and deny him full rewards, then?

As long as we get full rewards, I really don't care about a few low performers. Farm with US has 25 members with more than 1500 points and 25 with less. 15 with max points and 10 with less than 300.

/Affront

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Well that's 3000 points for the next game you just kicked out. And if they meet the minimum they get the rewards regardless of being kicked or not.

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

What if I score 3000 but leader kick me out of clan for his bad management? Think both ways.

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Once again...that'd meet the minimum. It shouldn't even be an option to have the minimum at the personal max that's just silly.

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Originally Posted by squid1966

How does what someone else receives effect the fun you get from the game?

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That's just an expression, but thanks for taking it literally.

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Originally Posted by fette

OP what skin is it off your back what others do? If they don’t follow your ludicrous clan rules, kick ‘em. But the rest of us are actually fine with the games as they are.
I really like that you can get all rewards with just clearing five tall grass if you so wish.

Not every clan is run like it’s North Korea you know. Some of us ( I’d like to think most of us) are quite happy to share the spoils of the FREE Clan games :smirk:

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Then you can leave your minimum as is. Lets see yall hit 75k clearing bushes.

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Originally Posted by JusMe

With any 'requirement' we would leave players out. We have those who go nuts and get 3k, 6k, 9k or even 12 over their accounts, and we have some who donate when they can, participate in wars and don't have much time in between, we have others who are seasoned and help out the newbies in their own way .... if someone doesn't contribute to the clan (which is more than 'just' the clan games) they get the boot, otherwise, even with 40 points, they're warmly invited to stay just where they are.

With all of these posts I just am grateful to be part of a few awesome clans

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So a requirement of 50 would leave people out? How do you even come up with this nonsense?

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Originally Posted by gaz1966

OK then. Imagine, you set a minimum limit of 750 points to be able to claim the rewards. On the first day, you get 600 points. The following day, one of your children is ill and needs your attention. Naturally, the game takes a back seat for a day or so until your child is well. You come back to the game to find your clan has hit the top tier yet you cannot claim any of the rewards.

Good thing or bad thing ? Clan mates should be helping each other. That's kinda the point of being in a clan. In the scenario above, they all did indeed help each other (including you) but sadly you missed out due to a real life situation that has nothing to do with the game and how you could have performed in it otherwise.

Instead of being able to thank them for their participation and winning rewards for you, you have to miss out.

P.S. Hope your kids are all healthy and well, I just used that as an example.

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If such a scenario bothers you 750 is too high of a minimum. Personally I'd only be interested in setting my minimum around 300-500.

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

If leader set minimum target to 1500points before clan game start. Algorithm will not add points who score lower than 1500 in clan's total.

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So now you're writing the algorithm too?

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

Where did you see advantages? Algorithm will not add any point in clan total untill players score their 1500 which is minimum score set by clan leader. And if you think why not? It's means you want their points to reach high tiers but you don't want to give them rewards. think about legend league players​ not everyone likes BB challenges. You can think about yourself but SC has to think about every conditions.

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Once again...dude...no. This is a minimum to obtain rewards. Clan still gets the points if the minimum isn't met.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

Probably the best argument against it would be “of all the things the game devs could work on to add or tweak, and all the possible little QOL improvements, is this really a better use of their time than what they are doing instead?”. They would know of the suggestion from previous threads on the matter.

People in the thread haven’t made that exact argument, so much as pointed out variously that there isn’t a great need for such a thing, or said that they themselves wouldn’t use one if it were there, or identified that there are potential problems or abuses associated with it.

Others have agreed they’d like such a button... all of which amounts to asking that key question, and answering “probably not at this time”... but we will see, as it’s early days of clan games and we don’t know what way SC are going to develop them, other than that it is planned to become more socially competitive.

Really it’s not an urgent or pressing issue to debate, so much as something to suggest in a thread in IFR and see what the future brings.

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This is the best counterargument.

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Originally Posted by fette

Why?
What if it was their 40 pts which tipped you over the threshold? :smirk:


Also I have noticed its always ' the tall grass guys are getting ALL the TOP rewards' for just 40 points ...whaaaa whaaa whaaa it never seems to be ' because if tall grass guy ' we didn't reach the top tier.

But honestly? If that's actually true and your clan has reached top tier, why should tall grass guy bother to cap out his/her points if the top has already been reached?

And here's another thought, maybe next time the hyper kid who maxed out his three accounts on points has exams next time the BoE is available and he/she can't play as much...maybe not be able to max out his/her points? Shock horror! What a slacker!!

So the clan gets the points anyhow, great stuff, but the kid should lose out completely because the clan games coincided with exams time?

NO! Real life always comes first and the way some leaders seem to be advocating that unless you cap out your games points you shouldn't partake in any of the prizes is absolutely ludicrous. Wait till you have families, jobs, illness, children, stress, commutes, pets, in-laws...etc etc do deal with. You know, REAL stuff.

Clan games is a FREE diversion from what we normally do anyways. We get some gifts just for doing what we are doing.

Get it in perspective, will ya?

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I am not talking about my clan, we already finished the games (75k) 2 days ago....I am talking in general
for the rest, they why ? I already said it !
as for if the leader fixes the minimum to 40, it's up to him, he manage the clan the way he want that's exactly what i am saying, and if you don't like a clan with a minimum of 1500, u go to a clan with minimum 40 etc...each leader lead the way he wants, and each member join the clan he wants....the problem here is that they don't give any tool to allow leaders lead the way they want, a leader can only kick and send clan message, it's not enough

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Originally Posted by JustGreat

I am not talking about my clan, we already finished the games (75k) 2 days ago....I am talking in general
for the rest, they why ? I already said it !
as for if the leader fixes the minimum to 40, it's up to him, he manage the clan the way he want that's exactly what i am saying, and if you don't like a clan with a minimum of 1500, u go to a clan with minimum 40 etc...each leader lead the way he wants, and each member join the clan he wants....the problem here is that they don't give any tool to allow leaders lead the way they want, a leader can only kick and send clan message, it's not enough

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Yeah the discord that this proposal has caused is ridiculous. Things will remain exactly the same for the leaders who prefer things as is.

I don't have to write algorithm for commonsense. If loyal very old player of clan is busy for first 4days in his daily work. On forth day when he comes online and he see 75k is already achieved by clan. he still have to contribute, go for min set by leader to get rewards. you don't care about his daily schedule. about algorithm who score lower you want to add their points to clan total but you don't want to have them reward.

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Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr

I don't have to write algorithm for commonsense. If loyal very old player of clan is busy for first 4days in his daily work. On forth day when he comes online and he see 75k is already achieved by clan. he still have to contribute, go for min set by leader to get rewards. you don't care about his daily schedule. about algorithm who score lower you want to add their points to clan total but you don't want to have them reward.

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Then set a low minimum if you feel that way.....