TH sniping should no longer give shields

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Originally Posted by madmonk3y

I have yet to see someone's argument to prove that, let me read yours.

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ok fine sure

WHY DOES THIS RUIN FARMING?

It's simple and obvious, read what I will say below.

If the shield for town hall is 8 hours then you can get raided about 3 times a day instead of 2. Why would we want it to be 12 hours? I can certainly tell you why, this isn't ONLY for farming, but for trophy PUSHERS too. So imagine if someone breaks into the base and break the town hall, why 8 hours? 8 hours would make farmers get mad more because they have less protection. It would be better to have it as 12 hours, let's keep it like that. Let me mention this: they will never make it 8 hours shield. That also make a lot more raids to occur in the game, and that's unfair. There is only about 25% chance you would successfully defend.

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Originally Posted by Bakhoumgeorge

ok fine sure

WHY DOES THIS RUIN FARMING?

It's simple and obvious, read what I will say below.

If the shield for town hall is 8 hours then you can get raided about 3 times a day instead of 2. Why would we want it to be 12 hours? I can certainly tell you why, this isn't ONLY for farming, but for trophy PUSHERS too. So imagine if someone breaks into the base and break the town hall, why 8 hours? 8 hours would make farmers get mad more because they have less protection. It would be better to have it as 12 hours, let's keep it like that. Let me mention this: they will never make it 8 hours shield. That also make a lot more raids to occur in the game, and that's unfair. There is only about 25% chance you would successfully defend.

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Let me just consider those points one at a time...

• The average farmer probably raids other people's bases upwards of 20 times a day but being raided 3 times instead of 2 is unfair?
• Clearly SOME farmers would get mad but please don't speak for us all. I cannot remember the last time i rode out a shield for the full period - as long as it gets me to breakfast, that's fine by me!
• I would love to know how you know what Supercell will NEVER do, but this doesn't seem so infeasible to me.
• You say that more raids in the game would be unfair and yet we already know that there is a shortage of bases to raid at the higher levels - shortening shield durations is a very obvious way of increasing the population of bases available to raid so, personally, I would be surprised if it is not at least being considered.
• The chance of defending a raid is the product of so may factors. For farmers who typically reside lower than their base could achieve, most farmers should reasonably expect to win a large proportion of their defences - i certainly do.

Am I the only farmer who is not bothered about shortened shield durations??

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Originally Posted by StanDadVille

Let me just consider those points one at a time...

• The average farmer probably raids other people's bases upwards of 20 times a day but being raided 3 times instead of 2 is unfair?
• Clearly SOME farmers would get mad but please don't speak for us all. I cannot remember the last time i rode out a shield for the full period - as long as it gets me to breakfast, that's fine by me!
• I would love to know how you know what Supercell will NEVER do, but this doesn't seem so infeasible to me.
• You say that more raids in the game would be unfair and yet we already know that there is a shortage of bases to raid at the higher levels - shortening shield durations is a very obvious way of increasing the population of bases available to raid so, personally, I would be surprised if it is not at least being considered.
• The chance of defending a raid is the product of so may factors. For farmers who typically reside lower than their base could achieve, most farmers should reasonably expect to win a large proportion of their defences - i certainly do.

Am I the only farmer who is not bothered about shortened shield durations??

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• They will get 12 hours shield too you realized, so therefore they get cheap shield
• I can easily estimate that over 50% would hate that, and 50% is pretty high, also look at the poll for it (separate thread)
• I can bet you my village on it that they won't change it at all, yep, I'm that serious
• There will still be a lot of raids, but on different villages, we can't have same villages get attacked a lot of times. You have no idea how often I get attacked, and I would be mad if 12 hours shield go to 8 hours when I am trophy pushing, CONSIDER TROPHY PUSHING
• There are not a lot of successful defenses for farmers, as you think, there are farmers against farmers too

The solution is to hit the snipper.
change the league bonus and allow them by the numbers of stars.
1 star 10%
2 stars 50%
3 stars 100%
if you reduce the bonus for one star snipper numbers will decrease rapidly. Some will continue for the thrill to be i. Crystal league at TH6 or 7.

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Originally Posted by Bakhoumgeorge

ok fine sure

WHY DOES THIS RUIN FARMING?

It's simple and obvious, read what I will say below.

If the shield for town hall is 8 hours then you can get raided about 3 times a day instead of 2. Why would we want it to be 12 hours? I can certainly tell you why, this isn't ONLY for farming, but for trophy PUSHERS too. So imagine if someone breaks into the base and break the town hall, why 8 hours? 8 hours would make farmers get mad more because they have less protection. It would be better to have it as 12 hours, let's keep it like that. Let me mention this: they will never make it 8 hours shield. That also make a lot more raids to occur in the game, and that's unfair. There is only about 25% chance you would successfully defend.

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StanDadVille said it all, your arguments don't hold much.
Think about it, everyone always complains about lack of loot but a lot of loot is hidden behind these cheap shields. I don't see how this would not benefit everyone. And one thing about trophy pushers, I'm pretty sure they break shields just as much, if not more than farmers because you make most of your cups attacking.

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Originally Posted by fbelanger

The solution is to hit the snipper.
change the league bonus and allow them by the numbers of stars.
1 star 10%
2 stars 50%
3 stars 100%
if you reduce the bonus for one star snipper numbers will decrease rapidly. Some will continue for the thrill to be i. Crystal league at TH6 or 7.

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That's the solution to what?

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Originally Posted by fbelanger

The solution is to hit the snipper.
change the league bonus and allow them by the numbers of stars.
1 star 10%
2 stars 50%
3 stars 100%
if you reduce the bonus for one star snipper numbers will decrease rapidly. Some will continue for the thrill to be i. Crystal league at TH6 or 7.

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What the frick, what about Town Hall? 1 star would be plain easy

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Originally Posted by madmonk3y

StanDadVille said it all, your arguments don't hold much.
Think about it, everyone always complains about lack of loot but a lot of loot is hidden behind these cheap shields. I don't see how this would not benefit everyone. And one thing about trophy pushers, I'm pretty sure they break shields just as much, if not more than farmers because you make most of your cups attacking.

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The loot isn't hidden behind these cheap shields. Most people who are farming do not hit well defended bases, they hit abandoned ones with full collectors.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The loot isn't hidden behind these cheap shields. Most people who are farming do not hit well defended bases, they hit abandoned ones with full collectors.

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So a farmer can loot 3M in a day, get a cheap shield from his TH and that loot isn't hidden?

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Originally Posted by madmonk3y

So a farmer can loot 3M in a day, get a cheap shield from his TH and that loot isn't hidden?

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The main way loot enters the game is through collectors. The primary source of large pools of easy to access loot are abandoned bases with full collectors. These bases represent inactive players with bases producing resources that they will never spend.

The never spend is really the key here. When an active player steals loot from another active player, that results in a net loss to the overall system. Basically I spend troops to grab it from inactive bases. Then you come along and spend more resources (a lot more, probably, because you're trying to rob my storages while I spent minimal troops getting the same loot from collectors) in troops to grab it from me. Well I still need the loot, so I now need to spend more resources to get the loot I had. That is a net loss.

After I log off, if my TH is not outside a couple of things happen.

1. I get attacked several times usually at a net loss for the attacker (and hence us).
2. Eventually someone 1-3 stars me at great expense (again usually at a net loss for the attacker).

My contention is that once I have stolen the loot, it's already hidden because it simply isn't profitable to steal it from me.

So basically TH sniping does three things.

1. It causes me to lose less loot which means that is less loot I need to steal.
2. It reduces attacks against my base which are largely unprofitable.
3. It allows someone to get a loot bonus with a minimal expenditure of resources (0 if they use an AQ), thus adding resources to the game.