Revenge Change and how it affects top players

Keeping TH outside isn't a fair comparison to the cheap shields. Dropping trophies intentionally to be matched up in lower ranges is. I'm pretty certain if a champions league player decided to keep their TH outside, the first person who sees that would snipe it. What makes dropping trophies somewhat fairer is that a lot of high XP (and thereby strong base) players do it. In addition, all those who drop to lower trophy ranges intentionally (your truly included) carry out tier-1 armies because they only want the loot, which makes them attacking lower level defenses somewhat balanced. Cheap shields means you are basically out of ANYONES reach playing your own "game" and sitting at the top.

im sure SC is aware.... they are not stupid they are business men... if they see that they are not getting affected profit wise from this change then they dont have to change it since what they did is actually preventing a "♥♥♥♥♥". if top players "retire" and profits go down for sc (since they are the major section for sc revenues) then yes i believe there will be a change again.... in the meantime people should focus on their farming and not on arguing :)

I think the top players are annoyed at the fact they gain one cup for a win and lose up to -50 for a loss, so that means 50 separate attacks just to regain them, which if you ask me isn't pretty so cheap shielding was the only way to at least hold on to the cups that they rightfully earned.
Also another thing how is cheap shielding any different from farmers putting a townhall outside the walls for a free 12 hour shield? Same concept right?
(dont flame me)

Everyone is always ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the first week any update takes place. Then it settles in and things work themselves out. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out.

Personally, all I can foresee is that there is even MORE collusion at the top. Since revenge isn't a possibility, I just assume more top guys will leave clan and hopefully have their clan mates find them. I suppose it's riskier that way, but if you have all of the family clans + friend clans ready to search for their bases, odds are still pretty good for them since there just isn't THAT many bases at that level.

What would encourage more real defensive plays would be if updates didn't release extremely OP troops (witches, hogs). Sure, they've since been tweaked, but if mass hogs could 3-star any base without much skill, that's a big factor in wanting to manipulate the system.

Either way, I'm happy farming my heroes right now :) This part of update doesn't affect me!

I totally agree with Zach. I would link, but so long!
TH outside is interesting. I feel that when used to hopefully prevent a three star from other attackers, it is a legitimate strategy. I feel that when used like the cheap shields, it is not. However, SC has no way to distinguish, and to punish real players for using a strategy is not a good idea for SC.
CashClash22

Um, I'm slightly confused....How has the revenge option changed? What changed about it?

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherBen

I completly agree, when looking on the top clans I noticed half of them are deciding to retire of quit because of this, I think some people over reacted but I would be pretty angry if I was that dedicated and had spent time and money to get there, Just my opinion.

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You do realize that the ones quitting are the ones who were exploiting the free shield, right? SuperCell simply fixed something that was on the list of things to fix. Getting mad because they lost a cheap tactic is downright silly. I'm glad they are 'quitting'. It gives everyone an equal chance to be a trophy hunter now.

Make town halls hold 100k of each with 100% available. No one will leave their townhall outside(except de farmers)

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Originally Posted by Daddy

Personal opinion time:

The farmers TH outside the walls thing is not a valid comparison farmers can go for hours with no one bothering to snipe them, their base is still available for attack.

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Is not a valid comparison but some have also problems with revenge down here! This because TH outside!
Months ago i post a solution but nobody cares about!! Supercell please make the Townhall holds 200/200k and 500 Dark elixer. One week and you see NO Townhall outside!

To be honest, Townhall outside is cheap Shild! :(

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Originally Posted by Woski

It looks to me like supercell had two choices; either keep the flawed system or start changing it. The current top players claim that free shields are the only way not to net lose trophies. The whole reason they see 1 trophy attacks and people attack them for 40 is because of the free shields causing fewer players at the top. It is a cyclical problem. While the revenge update will undoubtedly make some angry, in a month or two, high cup gameplay will be more fun with more players in champion. If the people at 4000+ tough out the transition, they will come back to a better, more competitive game. (Don't worry, gems will still help you). It will not be a perfect fix however, the top player will inherently be at a disadvantage, that is the downside to the trophy system but also why the top player is the best. Overall champion league will be a happier place.
addition: it's always lonely at the top. But the journey is usually worth it.

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This, exactly. Cause and effect. By blocking others from attaining higher counts, population at comparative count is limited, forcing matchmaking to lower counts, resulting in single cup wins. They compound their problem through its use and attempt to justify it's use through necessity. I invision a dog endlessly chasing its tail here.