Clan Games - Requirement for Free Loaders

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Originally Posted by junaidd123

I asked,leader replied most of the freeloaders are on vacations because he knows them personally.If they don't come online until next clan games I will leave my clan just for better clan game rewards, which will be a very difficult decision for me because I am in this clan for a long time,almost in every war taking 6 stars with my two attacks, from the journey of lvl 1 to lvl 8 clan.I am trying to make up my mind to leave.I just need some time to think.

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Well I'm happy to see you are on a clan which values you. I suggest you not to leave. Ups and downs are always there in every clan, Not everyone plays CoC 365 days.
Trust me, leaving your Older clan where you have made friends is more Difficult than finding a new clan.

The points a player gets in the Clan Games isn't registered anywhere. As soon as the games are done, the rewards are given and everything is forgotten ..

As part of Leadership in Farm With US (war farming clan focused purely on benefits) I have been more preocupied with every member getting at least one challenge done, than every member doing their fair share of the games (600 points) ..

We hit 30K with 1d18h to go, at which point it had been obvious that we would hit top tier rewards with no problem at all.

The top performers (self included, naturally) really enjoyed getting the 2000 points worth of challenges and I think that some players in the clan would have hit the max points, if the maximum had been 5K.. I know I would have continued doing challenges until the last minute :-)

Also, I would rather have my clan mates get 50 points in the games, than zero or no participation at all. They get the rewards, they are happy and more likely to continue being happy in the clan. We have a very, very stable group and the member churn is extremely low.

/Affront

The easiest thing to help clan management over these issues of players not pulling their weight would be to have a Clan wars style summary available for the last 1 or 2 "Clan Games" on a Clan Games tab from the clan page much like the war log button.

This would allow the leadership team time to see who did what with regards to points earnt for the clan, and give them a chance to discuss with players about what is expected from them, or get reasons (real life comes first) why they didnt participate. We all have players with busy lives, who cannot put the time in at certain times, but are reliable team players when it counts.

Much like kicking out inactives/non attackers in war this would be a useful tool to see who are the team players, and who are the ones constantly letting the team down.

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Originally Posted by Flobber

The easiest thing to help clan management over these issues of players not pulling their weight would be to have a Clan wars style summary available for the last 1 or 2 "Clan Games" on a Clan Games tab from the clan page much like the war log button.

This would allow the leadership team time to see who did what with regards to points earnt for the clan, and give them a chance to discuss with players about what is expected from them, or get reasons (real life comes first) why they didnt participate. We all have players with busy lives, who cannot put the time in at certain times, but are reliable team players when it counts.

Much like kicking out inactives/non attackers in war this would be a useful tool to see who are the team players, and who are the ones constantly letting the team down.

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Whilst that would provide a list and also some assistance I find it hard to believe that people don't look at the clan leaderboard and know who is or isn't pulling their weight. I don't need to look at the leaderboard now it's finished to know who only had 100 points in my clan likewise I know who had the maximum 2,000 points.

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Originally Posted by gristy

Whilst that would provide a list and also some assistance I find it hard to believe that people don't look at the clan leaderboard and know who is or isn't pulling their weight. I don't need to look at the leaderboard now it's finished to know who only had 100 points in my clan likewise I know who had the maximum 2,000 points.

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maybe the player with 100 points when you last looked, pulled out the stops and got you over the threshold to get tier 6 rewards in the last hour while you were asleep. We got the max rewards in our two main clans, so we are not overly worried, but some clans may have missed out by 50 points, or only got the rewards due to last minute effort by someone who might be kicked without the information available.

Having the tools available to review after the event would be a great QoL addition.

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Originally Posted by Flobber

maybe the player with 100 points when you last looked, pulled out the stops and got you over the threshold to get tier 6 rewards in the last hour while you were asleep. We got the max rewards in our two main clans, so we are not overly worried, but some clans may have missed out by 50 points, or only got the rewards due to last minute effort by someone who might be kicked without the information available.

Having the tools available to review after the event would be a great QoL addition.

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I doubt it considering I checked with 10 minutes to go and I'm aware that all of them are currently spending time away with their families.

Whilst I'm not saying it wouldn't be a nice addition I would rather see other fixes first such as war matchmaking and clouds.

Clan games worked as intended and everyone that contributes should get the full reward.

We had 23 people participate 10 or 11 get the 2K so the 12-23 group is what made the 30K happen. If they only did one challenge it added to the group overall total.

Now I could see a filter for anyone that completed the first game after the final tier is unlocked could be disqualified. Kinda like holding out in war to loot but IMO that's a clan management issue not development.

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Originally Posted by gristy

Whilst that would provide a list and also some assistance I find it hard to believe that people don't look at the clan leaderboard and know who is or isn't pulling their weight. I don't need to look at the leaderboard now it's finished to know who only had 100 points in my clan likewise I know who had the maximum 2,000 points.

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Because the Clan Games finished at a fixed time, for some it could be morning during working hours, for some it could be during sleeping night time.

At the last few hours, people will put in more efforts. Having the leaderboards at the end of Clan Games and stay will be helpful for clan management (the same as Clan Wars where info stays like 4 days).

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Originally Posted by SilverX

Because the Clan Games finished at a fixed time, for some it could be morning during working hours, for some it could be during sleeping night time.

At the last few hours, people will put in more efforts. Having the leaderboards at the end of Clan Games and stay will be helpful for clan management (the same as Clan Wars where info stays like 4 days).

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I actually doubt people would put more effort in at the last minute to be honest. And if they did have a last minute rush to complete challenges then how will this help you on your mission to identify "freeloaders"?

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Originally Posted by Bmille3

Kicking isn't a good solution?
Unless they are super busy, or have other IRL stuff, kicking is a perfectly fine solution.

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So would just kick anyone who was a freeloader for the games? What if that player was your top donor and top war performer as well? Would you kick them?

I honestly think an extra reward for anyone reaching the max in clan games would be beneficial. The "freeloaders" and people who were busy still get their rewards and the people who busted their tails and did the bulk of the work get rewarded for their effort.