The black whole: a TH9 transformer base design with anti-Hog variation

Hi Mavios,

I wanted to thank you for this design !

I've been using it for about 2 weeks now, and it works really well, against good variety of armies.
Out of about 10-12 attacks with hogs, only 2-3 did actually succeed, despite my base being still a very young TH9 (new defenses are not up to TH8 lvl yet, no defense was upgraded to TH9 lvl).

On top of that, among the few attacks which succeeded, a good part did because my clan castle had been already emptied by previous attackers or because my traps had been already triggered. With full clan castle and fully ready traps, the percentage of success of attackers drops to maybe 5-10% !

So far, very effective design !

Here are a few screenshots :

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Just getting ready to give this base a shot. New TH9 going to be trying a trophy push soon.

It looks good and theory was there...and I thanks mavios for it
But it didn't work for me ..the hogs destroyed the base
After destroying the Airdefence, it broke into two, one went for the Wiz Tower, and the other for the Xbow
Probably my defenses needs more lvl up

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Some updates:

Hey I got good news, after I did some tweaks to the base, I just moved the WizTower closer to the Airdefence....this is the results:
Won against a greater opponent that before
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Thanks again to everyone...especially mavios for a fantastic job

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Originally Posted by azbro

Probably my defenses needs more lvl up

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Your defenses are indeed way too low for this kind of attack. Level 7 tesla's, mortars and wiztowers would have decreased the damage significantly. I think not one build is good enough for 24 (or more) maxed hogs with 4 maxed healing spells. Mine wouldn't have even held up and I got an almost maxed TH9 (except walls). They probably wouldn't have 3-starred me though. You're just a bit premmie, but keep it up! ;)

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Originally Posted by Prophet

Your defenses are indeed way too low for this kind of attack. Level 7 tesla's, mortars and wiztowers would have decreased the damage significantly. I think not one build is good enough for 24 (or more) maxed hogs with 4 maxed healing spells. Mine wouldn't have even held up and I got an almost maxed TH9 (except walls). They probably wouldn't have 3-starred me though. You're just a bit premmie, but keep it up! ;)

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Thanks for the comments, I just upgraded from TH8 a few weeks ago, yeah, got loads more to upgrade. Well the design did significantly reduce more than half of the hogs which if considered excellent, guess when up against strong troops / spells like those, a solid defense is a necessity.

Just an update:
Got hit by more Hogs last night (whats this with Hogs and raiding TH9 lol). I've tweaked the base a bit and results were great....I won a raid against a greater opponent (35 lvl5 Hogs) than before...I probably need to tweak it more...anyway, thx again, base and comments were a great help.

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Originally Posted by azbro

Just an update:
Got hit by more Hogs last night (whats this with Hogs and raiding TH9 lol). I've tweaked the base a bit and results were great....I won a raid against a greater opponent (35 lvl5 Hogs) than before...I probably need to tweak it more...anyway, thx again, base and comments were a great help.

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Well done on the defense! What tweaks did you make on the base? Maybe they're useful for others as well. Might wanna screenshot it for us? Thnx.

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Originally Posted by Prophet

Well done on the defense! What tweaks did you make on the base? Maybe they're useful for others as well. Might wanna screenshot it for us? Thnx.

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Sure, I'll do that later when at home, anyway, you guy should see the Replay, it was awesome...but I really dunno how to Record from the Screen..I'm using iphone4 iOS7.0.4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaR8c...ature=youtu.be

Sorry about the vidz, could find a better and smoother way to record it.

Does the anti hog base actually work against smart hoggers?

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Originally Posted by Semipro

Does the anti hog base actually work against smart hoggers?

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What smart hoggers?

Actually the best method to avoid getting raid or defeated by Hog raid is a well placed Inferno Tower (with the current Multiple targeting update)...thats for TH10.

For TH9, with your current setup, only way to reduce getting a 3 star defeat (or sometimes even a win) is a good Anti-Hog style base. I might say I won against 35 lvl5 Hogs today, but I might even lose 100% the next day.

It depends on a lot of factors to win...some raiders just fumble it like forget to destroy the CC troops, backup troop deployed too late to reinforce the hogs, Wrong Spell location, etc. They could have won big, but lost due to their own fault...well..no one is perfect....just countinue to raid and raid

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Originally Posted by azbro

What smart hoggers?

Actually the best method to avoid getting raid or defeated by Hog raid is a well placed Inferno Tower (with the current Multiple targeting update)...thats for TH10.

For TH9, with your current setup, only way to reduce getting a 3 star defeat (or sometimes even a win) is a good Anti-Hog style base. I might say I won against 35 lvl5 Hogs today, but I might even lose 100% the next day.

It depends on a lot of factors to win...some raiders just fumble it like forget to destroy the CC troops, backup troop deployed too late to reinforce the hogs, Wrong Spell location, etc. They could have won big, but lost due to their own fault...well..no one is perfect....just countinue to raid and raid

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I was just saying a very similar thing in another thread, but not as forthright about it.

Word of the Day: telesthesia

I'm also beginning to think that there is in fact no effective way for a TH9 to defend against a skilled TH10 baconmonger who clears the CC and heroes, doesn't mindlessly spam units and chooses an area to attack from that will break hog-rings or exploit obvious faults in most anti-hog base designs.

But I'm not 100% convinced yet ;)

One thing I can say for certain is that this anti-hog base design does not hold up against skilled players. It was the first one I used to great success until it became too well known and people became more proficient in the use of hogs. Too much hinges on the double giant bombs in the corners, the placement of which is obvious and exploitable. A small contingent of hogs or other units can set it off at the same time they pull CC (I have personally seen it happen a dozen times).