My great th9 DE Farming, 27k per hour

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November 18th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

My great th9 DE Farming, 27k per hour

Hello there, today I'm going to introduce my new th9 strategy to farm DE at a super fast rate. You're atleast going to have 14k per hour with this strategy.

Army - 15 giants 13 wizards 4 wallbreakers 5 arch 1 hog 3 pekka. 2 healing, 1 rage 1 jump.

NOTE :- THIS IS ONLY DE FARMING ARMY.

If you're a th9 mid player and maxing up your heroes, it's super useful for you.
step 1:- place giants and wizards and create a funnel straight to DE Storage or collecters for pekkas. Leave some few wizards and giants(3-4) if the collecters are outside
Step 2 :- if you want to get a more effective chance of having a DE Shot, place your heroes, this step is optional.
step 3 :- place your pekkas after a good funnel.
step 4 :- Use jump to assist the funnel and place rage for effectiveness.
step 5 :- use the remaining wizards to get the collecters filled with DE and giants and shield, or use heroes if you haven't used them.

If you get dead bases at th9 with 2.7k dark elixir. Go for it, it is a base with only collecters filled DE and are usually outside or within a few tiles inside the base.

Leave your reviews and comments about this army.
November 18th, 2017
Krzeng9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Hello there, today I'm going to introduce my new th9 strategy to farm DE at a super fast rate. You're atleast going to have 14k per hour with this strategy.

Army - 15 giants 13 wizards 4 wallbreakers 5 arch 1 hog 3 pekka. 2 healing, 1 rage 1 jump.

NOTE :- THIS IS ONLY DE FARMING ARMY.

If you're a th9 mid player and maxing up your heroes, it's super useful for you.
step 1:- place giants and wizards and create a funnel straight to DE Storage or collecters for pekkas. Leave some few wizards and giants(3-4) if the collecters are outside
Step 2 :- if you want to get a more effective chance of having a DE Shot, place your heroes, this step is optional.
step 3 :- place your pekkas after a good funnel.
step 4 :- Use jump to assist the funnel and place rage for effectiveness.
step 5 :- use the remaining wizards to get the collecters filled with DE and giants and shield, or use heroes if you haven't used them.

If you get dead bases at th9 with 2.7k dark elixir. Go for it, it is a base with only collecters filled DE and are usually outside or within a few tiles inside the base.

Leave your reviews and comments about this army.

Wrong subforum. Also, you start off with 27k in the title then immediately drop to 14k. On those comically rare dead bases with full de drills you can get at those with just giants, wb, and arch for much faster and cheaper hits. You also didn't include that for your comp to even come close to matching simple giant + arch or giant + gob armies you have to boost.
November 18th, 2017
EmDoF

27K per hour or 14k per hour? looks impossible to farm that fast unless you are boosting....
November 18th, 2017
ubba13

I would stay with gob knife if it were me.
November 18th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

I don't think it's wrong subforum. I would down rep you if it doesn't gets moved.
November 18th, 2017
suby

well the guy is probably making the math with the 2 full armies that you can hold to start with.
November 18th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmDoF

27K per hour or 14k per hour? looks impossible to farm that fast unless you are boosting....

No, I usually don't deploy all my army if the collecters are Outside and I find 60% of the bases with collecters Outside. Just few wiz and giants and BOOM! Do you need something as proof?
November 18th, 2017
RajaShukla

Well, according to OP.. we need to get 10 attacks on an avg. per hour... so as get 27k de.. if we get 2.7k per attack.. and the troops u have mentioned take time to cook... So you need to boost barracks & spell factory..(even then i am not that sure that u will get to perform 10 attacks..)
Also there is a very popular and much better attack than this... for farming dark elix.. and that attack is GOBLIN KNIFE..

Thanks :)
November 18th, 2017
c0mical

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Originally Posted by RajaShukla

Well, according to OP.. we need to get 10 attacks on an avg. per hour... so as get 27k de.. if we get 2.7k per attack.. and the troops u have mentioned take time to cook... So you need to boost barracks & spell factory..(even then i am not that sure that u will get to perform 10 attacks..)
Also there is a very popular and much better attack than this... for farming dark elix.. and that attack is GOBLIN KNIFE..

Thanks :)

yes, thats a 35 min army!
November 18th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Do anyone want to know what I did in last 15 mins? I farmed about 12k dark elixir and used 2 armies. Training time is 30 mins. So 24k in on hour and some more few attacks so makes it 27k.
November 18th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by RajaShukla

Well, according to OP.. we need to get 10 attacks on an avg. per hour... so as get 27k de.. if we get 2.7k per attack.. and the troops u have mentioned take time to cook... So you need to boost barracks & spell factory..(even then i am not that sure that u will get to perform 10 attacks..)
Also there is a very popular and much better attack than this... for farming dark elix.. and that attack is GOBLIN KNIFE..

Thanks :)

I got 5,000 and 4,000 DE In my last 2 raids.
November 18th, 2017
suby

you are just saying nonsense now

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Do anyone want to know what I did in last 15 mins? I farmed about 12k dark elixir and used 2 armies. Training time is 30 mins. So 24k in on hour and some more few attacks so makes it 27k.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I got 5,000 and 4,000 DE In my last 2 raids.
November 18th, 2017
Affront

Show me the money. (or, in this case, your Hero levels)

Your Heroic Heist should be around 3 million, when you reach 30/30 .. and 6-7 million, when you reach 40/40.

Several hard core Dark Elixir farmers in Farm with Us have shown numbers in this range, when they spot maxed heroes for their TH level. We don't spend resources on war, but we gain a bit from war, 15 times a month. When people are on the hero grind, they typically try to aim for 25-30K DE a day .. every day, no exceptions. This, combined with alternating hero upgrades, usually lead to heroes upgrading in parallel. That leads to faster hero maxing and a shorter grind .. but, no competitive wars.

After a successful grind, we push. TH9's push to Titan, TH10s push to Legend or move directly to TH11 and THEN push to legend.

/Affront
November 18th, 2017
MileGod4

Not extremely impressive and you dropped to 14k immediately
November 18th, 2017
EmDoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I don't think it's wrong subforum. I would down rep you if it doesn't gets moved.

Yes please, thank you.....
November 18th, 2017
Anarchos

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Do anyone want to know what I did in last 15 mins? I farmed about 12k dark elixir and used 2 armies. Training time is 30 mins. So 24k in on hour and some more few attacks so makes it 27k.

I don't understand your math. You said in 15 minutes you did 2 attacks? Then said the training time is 30 minutes meaning 2 attacks per hour. How does that give 2 attacks in 15 minutes? Even if you averaged 10,000 DE per attack, a 30 minute army won't give 27,000 DE per hour.
November 18th, 2017
PraisedOne

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubba13

I would stay with gob knife if it were me.

Same. BTW this should be in tactics and strategy subforum.
November 18th, 2017
ClasherClash443

Junior mods, junior mods everywhere!
November 18th, 2017
Gorbash098

OP, can you show us your attack logs?
November 18th, 2017
Realsies

27k per day sounds more realistic without boosting
November 18th, 2017
meditat1on

I'm quite confused to be honest. So many numbers and so many discrepancies in what has been written in the first post and then in the other posts of the OP... Maybe clarifying a bit the whole thing would be helpful since your intention was to help players i guess.
November 18th, 2017
VeeBirds

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runesave

Here's my guide for DE farming in TH9

1. Upgrade to TH10

This dude knows whats up
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by MileGod4

Not extremely impressive and you dropped to 14k immediately

Atleast 14k a hour

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarchos

I don't understand your math. You said in 15 minutes you did 2 attacks? Then said the training time is 30 minutes meaning 2 attacks per hour. How does that give 2 attacks in 15 minutes? Even if you averaged 10,000 DE per attack, a 30 minute army won't give 27,000 DE per hour.

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Originally Posted by Gorbash098

OP, can you show us your attack logs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realsies

27k per day sounds more realistic without boosting

Quote:

Originally Posted by meditat1on

I'm quite confused to be honest. So many numbers and so many discrepancies in what has been written in the first post and then in the other posts of the OP... Maybe clarifying a bit the whole thing would be helpful since your intention was to help players i guess.

Ya'all guys need proof? I haven many snapshots proving that i got 14k in 15 mins
Well will be giving in 20 mins, having my breakfast.
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Here's the proof, enjoy. BTW I used 8 gems for training so consider 15 mins time instead of 9 mins.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/186U...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14nr...w?usp=drivesdk

So, now don't think I'm being crazy or somewhat like that. I can even make a youtube video showing that I can get 27k de in a hour
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Affront

Show me the money. (or, in this case, your Hero levels)

Your Heroic Heist should be around 3 million, when you reach 30/30 .. and 6-7 million, when you reach 40/40.

Several hard core Dark Elixir farmers in Farm with Us have shown numbers in this range, when they spot maxed heroes for their TH level. We don't spend resources on war, but we gain a bit from war, 15 times a month. When people are on the hero grind, they typically try to aim for 25-30K DE a day .. every day, no exceptions. This, combined with alternating hero upgrades, usually lead to heroes upgrading in parallel. That leads to faster hero maxing and a shorter grind .. but, no competitive wars.

After a successful grind, we push. TH9's push to Titan, TH10s push to Legend or move directly to TH11 and THEN push to legend.

/Affront

Affront, I got this technique from my friend 2 days ago, I tried It and got lots of profit. Even with this trick I started upgrading my king, queen (70,000 DE each) and earthquake spell. I considered uploading this trick as soon I got good results.
November 19th, 2017
Gorbash098

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Here's the proof, enjoy. BTW I used 8 gems for training so consider 15 mins time instead of 9 mins.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/186U...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14nr...w?usp=drivesdk

So, now don't think I'm being crazy or somewhat like that. I can even make a youtube video showing that I can get 27k de in a hour

It is possible that you already have the 2nd army built in the queue and therefore not have to wait 25 minutes for the next army to build.
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorbash098

It is possible that you already have the 2nd army built in the queue and therefore not have to wait 25 minutes for the next army to build.

Okay, first 15 mins, 14k per hour, waiting 25 mins for a single army. Then again 7k raid In 7 mins, 21k per in 47 mins. And if you get some more bases which have collecters (DE-filled) outside will make it 27k.
In the initial hour, you would get lots of DE but in the next hour you would get lesser than what you got earlier.
Lol, I bet you would get 50k in hour if you boost your barracks.

Consider seeing this too -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GtKzVNHGHtwJHAo1y8tYttP1uOH5LGfa/view?usp=drivesdk
November 19th, 2017
Krzeng9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Here's the proof, enjoy. BTW I used 8 gems for training so consider 15 mins time instead of 9 mins.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/186U...w?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14nr...w?usp=drivesdk

So, now don't think I'm being crazy or somewhat like that. I can even make a youtube video showing that I can get 27k de in a hour

that is the most worthless "evidence" possible. It does not show a full hour like you promised and all of them could've been achieved with giants + gobs/arch for cheaper. The final two raids counting as part of your average is laughable, having two lucky whales in a row does not fairly portray your actual de per hour. From your profile you haven't been using this long enough to fairly say it is reliable because the log you showed just proved you had good luck finding whale bases, not a good army choice. With 2.6mil HH and 15/13 heroes you are not a good de farmer. I have 3.5mil HH and 30/32 and there are others with even higher.

EDIT: also thanks for being a jerk by sniping loot and not giving shields... it's people like you that ruin the economy for everyone else.
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krzeng9

that is the most worthless "evidence" possible. It does not show a full hour like you promised and all of them could've been achieved with giants + gobs/arch for cheaper. The final two raids counting as part of your average is laughable, having two lucky whales in a row does not fairly portray your actual de per hour. From your profile you haven't been using this long enough to fairly say it is reliable because the log you showed just proved you had good luck finding whale bases, not a good army choice. With 2.6mil HH and 15/13 heroes you are not a good de farmer. I have 3.5mil HH and 30/32 and there are others with even higher.

EDIT: also thanks for being a jerk by sniping loot and not giving shields... it's people like you that ruin the economy for everyone else.

2 lucky, Okay finally you're not still be able to see that as an evidence. Okay I will make a video on it and prove that this army would lead to a atleast 14k per hour.

I got this technique from my friend just 2 days ago and you expect a good stats from me? Huh nice, I would really appreciate.

Ruining economy? 100 lols. I would do whatever I want in the game and also you're free to do that.
November 19th, 2017
Krzeng9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

2 lucky, Okay finally you're not still be able to see that as an evidence. Okay I will make a video on it and prove that this army would lead to a atleast 14k per hour.

I got this technique from my friend just 2 days ago and you expect a good stats from me? Huh nice, I would really appreciate.

Ruining economy? 100 lols. I would do whatever I want in the game and also you're free to do that.

2 lucky hits isn't evidence no matter what you may say. If you got this two days ago how in the world can you be so confident of it's competence? just how?? as far as laughing at ruining the economy, you're right you're free to do what you want, but that doesn't make it not a scummy and low thing to do. I will not join you in your race to the bottom.
November 19th, 2017
ExpertSAQ

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Originally Posted by Krzeng9

2 lucky hits isn't evidence no matter what you may say. If you got this two days ago how in the world can you be so confident of it's competence? just how?? as far as laughing as ruining the economy, you're right you're free to do what you want, but that doesn't make it not a scummy and low thing to do. I will not join you in your race to the bottom.

Ruining the economy. This is my objection of your post. Nobody could do that. A human is incapable of doing that.
November 19th, 2017
21Kentucky

Yeah, agreeing with everyone else. This is nothing more than a couple of lucky nexts. You can’t farm like that consistently. Goblin knife is way better.
November 19th, 2017
tinman610

4 giants, 1 wallbreaker, 40 goblins ratio. I build that over and over. For every giant I send in I send 10 goblins. And only occasionally send in a wallbreaker. Send a giant between 2 collectors and send 5 goblins at each collector. Head to about 1500 trophies. Boosted will get you 27K in an hour. Unboosted about 10K. Yeah exposed collectors only. Youre wasting troops and time to go further into base. If its a juicy target then send a couple wallbreakers to get through first wall.
November 19th, 2017
Gorbash098

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Okay, first 15 mins, 14k per hour, waiting 25 mins for a single army. Then again 7k raid In 7 mins, 21k per in 47 mins. And if you get some more bases which have collecters (DE-filled) outside will make it 27k.
In the initial hour, you would get lots of DE but in the next hour you would get lesser than what you got earlier.
Lol, I bet you would get 50k in hour if you boost your barracks.

Consider seeing this too -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GtK...w?usp=drivesdk

Hmmm I think that there might be a math issue here. You cannot count the first 15 minutes as producing 14K per hour because you still had to build your two armies prior to that which is 25 minutes each. That totals to 50 minutes, add to that the search time and you are getting close to an hour. Adding all of the DE shown in the screenshot you get 13K an hour.

We usually count the DE rate at the beginning of training the troops and not after they have been trained.

It would help a lot if you can show the yield over a long period of time. The longer the better. Yield over a short period of time and trying to extrapolate from that is prone to errors. For example, I can take the last two raids you made and say that I can collect 9.3K DE every 3 minutes which would extrapolate to 186K an hour. But that is not correct, is it? The reason being is that you will not always get 9.3K every 3 minutes. Sometimes you will fail, sometimes it takes longer, much longer to find the right base. By taking data over longer periods of time you take into account many factors that are more common to everyone else and reducing the probability that the few searches you made is only by chance.

The most recent link that you presented showed 3 attacks yielding 8050 DE in the span of 1 hour and 12 minutes. This is really far from getting 27K an hour.
November 19th, 2017
suhasbhat26

for dead bases pekka is time taking
arch/gob with giants & wb enough

for bases with half filled drills & full storage we can use goblin knife to be faster than pekka
November 19th, 2017
meditat1on

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Originally Posted by Runesave

Then say your army can only farm 14k an hour instead of 27k. I can next many times in Titans and find a dead base, hit it for 7k+2k DE 5 times an hour and say I farm 45k DE per hour

Now if you want an accurate representation of loot per hour, do this:
Do 50-200 raids, average the loot you get from each raid and the loot bonus. Deduct your cost
Now divide that average by the average training time of your army (25min in this case)

Here's how to count DE per hour using my TH10 strategy
I know I farm about 3.6k DE including bonus per raid over my last 500 raids.
3.6k/18min * 60min/hour = 12k DE per hour

The reason is, to accurately calculate loot per hour, you need to ignore the pre-trained army. In your logs, you were able to start your session with 2 raids immediately. This will disproportionately favour longer training armies because the loot of the first two raids do not use training time. The reason why you deduct the first pre-trained army is because your second hour will lose a ton of steam because you cannot pre-train anymore.

Well said. Couldn't agree more!
November 19th, 2017
OnyxDS

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Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

2 lucky, Okay finally you're not still be able to see that as an evidence. Okay I will make a video on it and prove that this army would lead to a atleast 14k per hour.

Like others have said - do a video showing the raids from a couple of hours, and showing you got 14k per hour, each hour, and then people will take it seriously. Doing one or two raids and multiplying up isn't going to convince anyone
November 19th, 2017
Tomville

One problem for me is the inclusion of the PEKKA in terms of its inefficiency. Yes you’re trying to farm de, but there is no point spending more pink elixir than you needed to in doing that. That’s doubly so if you’re looking for dead bases. If you’re farming in a usual th9 location like crystal then you want to get all the loot, but not necessarily to 3 star, as you’d then just need to fiddle about dropping trophies for longer later. So to me you just don’t need that pekka punching or tanking power, but rather only enough cheaper troops to grab the de collector, drills and town hall. There’s 2 levels of walls there to love all excess gold and pink elixir you win while you are going after the de.
November 19th, 2017
SSeleulc

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Do anyone want to know what I did in last 15 mins? I farmed about 12k dark elixir and used 2 armies. Training time is 30 mins. So 24k in on hour and some more few attacks so makes it 27k.

I get up to 9000 DE per raid. If I gem everything, every time, I suppose I could attack 13.39627 times per hour. and get up to 100k de per hour. I use loons, minions, giants, and wizards. If I use 3 accounts and attack/search simultaneously I could get 299k de per hour.

My secret: destroy dark drills and storage.

How ya like dem apples?
November 19th, 2017
Colin94

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Originally Posted by Affront

Your Heroic Heist should be around 3 million, when you reach 30/30 .. and 6-7 million, when you reach 40/40.

My heroic heist is almost 10 million but my heroes are only 32/36 :(XD
November 19th, 2017
EmDoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runesave

Here's my guide for DE farming in TH9

1. Upgrade to TH10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeeBirds

This dude knows whats up

HAHAHAHAHAHA omg
November 19th, 2017
Krzeng9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

Ruining the economy. This is my objection of your post. Nobody could do that. A human is incapable of doing that.

First of all, nice strawman. I originally never said you couldn't be a scummy player and ruin the economy. Second, that is literally how economics in this game works. For every snipe raid you take, one play loses a good raid. If you don't believe me drop to low silver and take a look. This is tragedy of the commons in it's simplest form. Lastly, you're doing a good job getting off topic in your own post, dozens of other forumers have done the math from your "evidence" and proved that you're plainly wrong, yet you just ignore that and pick at a small part of my post, ignoring the other 80%.
November 19th, 2017
Krzeng9

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ

I don't think it's wrong subforum. I would down rep you if it doesn't gets moved.

Moved. Case closed, it was the wrong subforum.

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